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Started by moonriver on 17-Feb-2017 10:16:24
Rise like lions after slumber

"This is not the time for retreat, indifference or despair, but the time to rise up in defence of what we believe.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/16/t
ony-blair-remainers-rise-up-brexit

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zardoz - 17 Feb 2017 10:24:32 (#1 of 242)

Yeah. Thanks.

upgoerfive - 17 Feb 2017 11:09:07 (#2 of 242)

Oh, we are so fucked.

Rendered - 17 Feb 2017 11:11:45 (#3 of 242)

Man, Tone got old.

BasilSeal - 17 Feb 2017 11:13:49 (#4 of 242)

So Tony Blair rides in like Roy Kineer on a donkey to save us from Brexit.

what could possibly go wrong? i hear you ask.

JessicaEccles6 - 17 Feb 2017 11:14:16 (#5 of 242)

Hey, he's either quoting Shelley or Scritti Politti. That's cool.

Brunothecat - 17 Feb 2017 11:14:45 (#6 of 242)

Maybe if Blair and his cronies hadn't spent the 18 months prior to the referendum trying to destroy their own Party's credibility but had devoted it to trying to get a positive message on the EU diffused to prepare the ground the result would have been different.

In stead, they took their eyes off the ball completely. Labour voted to hold the referendum and committed to respecting the result when Harman was temporarily the leader. They knew it was coming, and they knew when (in overall terms) yet they ignored it completely until a couple of weeks before the event. Bou obsessive personal ambition completely blinded them to their situation, and the possible consequences of what they so carelessly supported in order to gain face with the right wing press.

BlankChank - 17 Feb 2017 11:14:52 (#7 of 242)

'Tone got old'

The picture reminds me oddly of Ray Allen's Lord Charles mannequin, minus the monocle.

Rendered - 17 Feb 2017 11:17:11 (#8 of 242)

Who knew that selling worthless management consultancy to African nations was so exhausting.

mingmong - 17 Feb 2017 11:19:15 (#9 of 242)

"for ye are the 48%* and they the 52"

*(And of course you will all be voiceless chaff under the whip-hand of the 0.01% when I get my way)

1OffManMental - 17 Feb 2017 11:20:29 (#10 of 242)

Maybe if Blair and his cronies hadn't spent the 18 months prior to the referendum trying to destroy their own Party's credibility

Oh ffs

Brunothecat - 17 Feb 2017 11:21:12 (#11 of 242)

I agree with pretty much everything Blair says in that piece, I simply don't understand how he could have thought that an orchestrated campaign to discredit Labour and render it unelectable was going to help rather than frustrate his aims. Obviously, rallying behind the Party so that May was facing a united opposition would have been the right strategic thing to do, but in stead the squabbling over internal Party power took precedence. No wonder he made such a fuck-up of being PM, he is incapable of seeing beyond headlines, of having an actual strategy.

RosyLovelady - 17 Feb 2017 11:21:52 (#12 of 242)

< rise up in defence of what we believe ... >

... and he shall be the king of Insurgia. It's simply the Right Thing to Do.

BasilSeal - 17 Feb 2017 11:22:48 (#13 of 242)

Oh ffs



quite.

anyway, Blair wasn't destroying the credibility of the labour party in the 18 months prior to the referendum, he did that years ago, he was giving motivational speeches to tin pot dictators, give the guy a break.

mingmong - 17 Feb 2017 11:24:28 (#14 of 242)

We will be persuaded to see the follies of democracy. We should learn to trust experts once again. The global elite are the experts. They know more than you, that's why they're richer than you. Let them get on with running everything, and shut up and be grateful.

mingmong - 17 Feb 2017 11:25:59 (#15 of 242)

It's either that or Donald Trump.

BlankChank - 17 Feb 2017 11:26:26 (#16 of 242)

If you could leave aside the war crimes, the narcissism, preening self-regard and monomania, and the fact that Blair and Brown were to busy fighting each other to put up any resistance when the EU was signing its own death warrant in the Lisbon Treaty negotiations, this would be a powerful intervention from Blair.

Brunothecat - 17 Feb 2017 11:28:16 (#17 of 242)

anyway, Blair wasn't destroying the credibility of the labour party in the 18 months prior to the referendum,

You think he and his associates had nothing to do with the orchestrated resignations, the drip feed of hostile articles in pretty much all of the press attacking his party and its membership, the leaked documents, the sneering contempt dished out on the BBCs political shows which even included an orchestrated resignation live on TV speciifically intended to discredit their own Party leader at PMQs…

This was all going on with the referendum creeping ever nearer, and many of those involved representing heavily "pro brexit" constituencies. They must have known they had a mountain to climb just overcoming anti-EU prejudice yet they devoted their energies to party in-fighting.

dottie30 - 17 Feb 2017 11:29:57 (#18 of 242)

Maybe if Blair and his cronies hadn't spent the 18 months prior to the referendum trying to destroy their own Party's credibility



<<sigh...>>

It's everyone's fault but Corbyn's....

JessicaEccles6 - 17 Feb 2017 11:31:04 (#19 of 242)

Blairites are like the new jooz- everywhere! Influencing everything! with lots of money!

col2001 - 17 Feb 2017 11:32:22 (#20 of 242)

The deliberate sabotage was Corbyn's fault? Corbyn outperforming the Tories on the Remain side was Corbyn's fault?

Ffs. Own your failed coup.

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