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Started by foghorn on Jan 2, 2019 3:43:46 PM
Folks of Jewish heritage.

I am decluttering for a move and sorting through stuff and would like suggestions about what to sensitively do with this:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/53609981@N00/4565759
7735/in/dateposted-public/


The write up under the photo says it all.

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foghorn - 02 Jan 2019 15:44:52 (#1 of 55)

The local synagogue/museum isn´t interested. They have enough of this stuff. It´s always given me a bit of a dilemma.

Lawlsie - 02 Jan 2019 15:49:45 (#2 of 55)

Have you tried the Holocaust Educational Trust?

https://www.het.org.uk/

BenSawbridg - 02 Jan 2019 15:50:05 (#3 of 55)

I don't think the jooz are like the islams when it comes to disposing of unwanted items of this type. At least, they won't declare a fatwa or a jihad. Wrap it up in black binliners and packing tape and throw it out, if you don't want it. That's what the museum would do.

Rendered - 02 Jan 2019 15:50:29 (#4 of 55)

Donate it to the local Momentum group?

yumyum - 02 Jan 2019 15:54:22 (#5 of 55)

Yeah, #3 goes for me too.

Lawlsie - 02 Jan 2019 15:57:29 (#6 of 55)

I wouldn& #39;t be offended by it being thrown away as in #3 if that helps.

BenSawbridg - 02 Jan 2019 15:57:59 (#7 of 55)

There you go. Lawlsie speaks for all jooz.

foghorn - 02 Jan 2019 16:00:28 (#8 of 55)

I can´t bring myself to throw it in the rubbish, Ben. Someone probably risked their life making and celebrating their festival of light with it in the darkest of dark times. I´m not religious, but it is somehow a poetic bit of history. Horrid, sad or whatever.

I´ll ask, Lawls. Ta.

flossiefoe - 02 Jan 2019 16:01:49 (#9 of 55)

How did you acquire it in the first place?

Lawlsie - 02 Jan 2019 16:06:07 (#10 of 55)

There is also a Jewish museum in London and Manchester foghorn. They might take it.

yumyum - 02 Jan 2019 16:07:30 (#11 of 55)

I wouldn& #39

That formatting fail also happened in my original post before I reworded it. What is it caused by?

BenSawbridg - 02 Jan 2019 16:07:50 (#12 of 55)

Stick it in the post to Julie Burchill. She loves the jooz above all else.

foghorn - 02 Jan 2019 16:13:10 (#13 of 55)

Lived in Germany a long time, floss. My ex is Jewish and just couldn´t help herself if she occasionaly came across things like this at fleamarkets or whatever. Had her in tears. She didn´t really want the things, they upset her, but couldn´t bear to think of wherever else they might end up. I don´t think the people selling it even knew what it was. I kept it to relieve her of responsibility as a kindness and she made me promise not to do anything irreverent with it.

I find it uncomfortable to own though.

OldLefty - 02 Jan 2019 16:15:27 (#14 of 55)

#11

&#39 is a way of putting an apostrophe in text where a single quote is used at the start and end of a string value, but the space shouldn't be there. Some software replaces single quotes with &#39 to avoid problems. Presumably a bug in the site software.

Lawlsie - 02 Jan 2019 16:16:34 (#15 of 55)

It could be used as part of Holocaust education. I can understand why your ex felt the need to buy it to save it and why you feel uncomfortable with it. Maybe explain that to the HET or a Jewish museum?

DeckTheHalls - 02 Jan 2019 16:41:46 (#16 of 55)

It may not be quite as dismal a story as you think. (It may. Not saying it isn't.) There seems to have been a trend in putting old shell cases to positive uses, a kind of swords into ploughshares impulse, among many people after war, not just Jews. We, for example, own a lidded box made of a reworked artillery shell, with hammered decorative soldiers and cannons. It is a horrible object, but it represents a new and positive mood in the person who made it, rather than suffering. It seems just possible to me that your menorah could as easily be a celebration of liberation as an expression of oppression itself. Either way, it deserves its place in a museum where it can be exhibited in context, with its meaning respected.

foghorn - 02 Jan 2019 16:49:11 (#17 of 55)

I would love to think so, Deck, but how it is made it´s 99.9% exactly what I say it is. This was a heavily industrialised area and there are shitloads of local KZ gedenkstätte.

In a way it is a thing of hope, but I very much doubt its creator survived.

Tomnoddy - 02 Jan 2019 16:49:29 (#18 of 55)

I was thinking along the same lines as Deckie. It looks as if it could be something made after the war, rather than before or during, to me. IANAE.

HouseOfLametta - 02 Jan 2019 16:54:18 (#19 of 55)

What does the engraving say?

TinyMcOtter - 02 Jan 2019 16:56:00 (#20 of 55)

Interesting item. No idea really. Perhaps email local history societies - jewish or otherwise?

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