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Started by Verdigris on Oct 2, 2021 2:17:43 PM
Wood burning stoves

I'm going to install a wood burning stove in my new gaff. It will be a back-up in case of power cuts rendering the heat pump useless and also as a source of "psychological warmth" that an open flame gives.

Has anybody got any recommendations?

moto748 - 24 Nov 2021 12:00:52 (#1 of 139)

Be prepared for a, er, flaming on JTT, then.

TheVoiceOfReason - 24 Nov 2021 12:22:52 (#2 of 139)

Worse. Than. Hitler.!, says Monbiot.

Kucinghitam - 24 Nov 2021 12:24:13 (#3 of 139)

Particulates!!!1!!!11!! Emissions!!1!!!1!!

I have a woodburning stove and I luffs it.

tasselhoff - 24 Nov 2021 12:34:31 (#4 of 139)

If the woodland is properly managed, I don't see why Monbiot would get the hump.

Woodstoves should only really be used in rural areas like where I live, not as a poncy urban affectations.

tasselhoff - 24 Nov 2021 12:35:15 (#5 of 139)

did someone delete a Monbiot reference?

tasselhoff - 24 Nov 2021 12:37:07 (#6 of 139)

Oh, Jotul. They're fab.

Also consider a heat recovery tube system round your stainless steel flue doodah for a couple of metres. They are good for ensuring less of that 80%+ efficiency goes up the chimney.

Dementor - 24 Nov 2021 12:44:56 (#7 of 139)

You can’t buy ‘wet’ wood anymore, I think - and dry wood’s not cheap.

tasselhoff - 24 Nov 2021 12:48:50 (#8 of 139)

You should never use unseasoned wood. Its calorific value is lower and it's far more dirty. So unless you store your wood for a year or more there is literally no reason to be buying it.

Verdigris - 24 Nov 2021 14:19:01 (#9 of 139)

Jotul is on my list but I suspect the prices will have sky-rocketed, cos Brexit.

fogsake - 24 Nov 2021 14:21:33 (#10 of 139)

Bullerjan stoves look a bit different, but they are great heating.

moto748 - 24 Nov 2021 14:23:29 (#11 of 139)

I think in your shoes, Verdi, I would be considering whether they might be banned in few years time.

Verdigris - 24 Nov 2021 14:29:25 (#12 of 139)

I'll get a DEFRA/EcoDesign one, which reduces the particulates because, essentially, you can't shut them right down to a smoulder.

I'll be living in a rural area, with only electricity for heating, so I think a back-up, in case of prolonged power cuts is justifiable.

Tenesmus - 24 Nov 2021 14:29:29 (#13 of 139)

I doubt they'll be banned where Verd is within his lifetime.

TenGorillas - 24 Nov 2021 14:39:44 (#14 of 139)

You do get a lot of particulates with wood burners, they cause a lot of deaths in the Third World. Tech startups are looking at ways to capture the particulates. BUT that said wood burners are fine IMO used sparingly in a rural area especially if you burn wood pellets rather than logs. They make for a very efficient combustible and are made from industry offcuts. About 50% of a felled tree is lost at a sawmill and the unusable bits would otherwise be incinerated or dumped in landfill and the embodied energy wasted. Wood pellet district heating is even more efficient though.

Ginmonkey - 24 Nov 2021 14:43:54 (#15 of 139)

They are horrible in urban areas, particulary on cold still days.

My main issue with them is they are a pointless amount of work if you use them as a primary heat source. Fine if used just as a back up or for picturesque reasons

solomongursky - 24 Nov 2021 14:46:06 (#16 of 139)

Ok friends, here's the letter I sent to my #WoodBurning neighbours y/day, after over a year of anxiety and suffering in silence. It shouldn't come down to individuals to confront/educate their neighbours like this, but this is the inevitable result of complete government failure

tasselhoff - 24 Nov 2021 15:06:47 (#17 of 139)

you can't shut them right down to a smoulder.

In that case I'd consider something similar to a Russian fireplace, with huge thermal mass. You bung it full of wood and keep it running full pelt for about an hour. The heat then radiates out for hours.

ReverendBlueJeans - 24 Nov 2021 15:07:26 (#18 of 139)

Ooh, that won't end well.

Imagine me writing a letter to chastise my muppet neighbour and asking him to read something and waving an MSc (which I don't have) in front of him. That would end even less well.

tasselhoff - 24 Nov 2021 15:08:21 (#19 of 139)

but with a closed fire design

fogsake - 24 Nov 2021 15:13:28 (#20 of 139)

<Burns a tree an hour>

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