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Started by Ginmonkey on Nov 23, 2021 8:08:55 AM
Scrapping a car

Does anyone know the process for scrapping a car?

Someone in our block had been keeping a beaten up old SORN car in our car park. It has been pissing off residents as it is rotting away and blocking a communal parking space. Our management co left a note in the car asking for it to be removed

The owner of the car revealed themselves yesterday to complain it had gone missing and when he contacted the Police they said it had been scrapped. He has complained that someone has scrapped the car without permission. I assumed only the owner or the council could formally scrap a car? Is that true.

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pmcblonde - 23 Nov 2021 08:10:51 (#1 of 39)

When we scrapped my Dad’s old car we had to provide the v5

fogger - 23 Nov 2021 08:14:18 (#2 of 39)

It's theft.

Ginmonkey - 23 Nov 2021 08:15:05 (#3 of 39)

That's what I thought! I didn't think someone could just scrap a car without the owner's knowledge.

He has a history of being difficult as doesn't agree with our policy that off the road vehicles cannot be parked in the communal car park.

fogger - 23 Nov 2021 08:15:56 (#4 of 39)

So was it the police that scrapped it? Didn't think they had tow trucks.

Ginmonkey - 23 Nov 2021 08:17:08 (#5 of 39)

#2 well indeed fogger. He seems to be implying the management company or a resident (there have been A LOT of complaints about his car) scrapped it without his permission. But I don't think that is possible unless it is on public land and the local authority or police remove it.

Gotout - 23 Nov 2021 08:17:28 (#6 of 39)

#4 The police will have a register of towing companies they call on.

Ginmonkey - 23 Nov 2021 08:21:50 (#7 of 39)

The car was on private land and not causing a public nuisance, so I can't see that the police or local authority removing it.

The owner seems to be implying a fellow resident arranged it without his knowledge but I don't think they would be able to.

Kucinghitam - 23 Nov 2021 08:31:12 (#8 of 39)

It's been a while (decades) since I had a car scrapped, but I definitely had to provide my ownership paperwork. And the scrapping person signed part of it and handed it back to me, IIRC. And then later on a DVLA thing came in the post confirming it was no longer my car.

darkhorse - 23 Nov 2021 08:39:07 (#9 of 39)

It's an interesting mystery, but are you actually trying to help this guy, GM? He sounds like a bit of a dick.

I assume vehicles left at user's own risk etc. The management company has no liability if somebody nicks a car. The police are the ones who should investigate (although I assume it is not a priority case for the Met).

Catspyjamas17 - 23 Nov 2021 08:41:01 (#10 of 39)

It looks like the council can remove and scrap it but there is a process:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/abandoned-vehicles-council-responsibilities

darkhorse - 23 Nov 2021 08:43:30 (#11 of 39)

I was wondering if a passing dodgy metal thief might take it. Seems a bit laborious for those guys, hard to fit a whole car in a shopping trolley. Unless they took it piecemeal daily for a month.

Ginmonkey - 23 Nov 2021 08:46:45 (#12 of 39)

He is a dick DH. I am a director of the freehold company so just trying to work out how to respond to his complaint. Personally I care very little about his car being gone, it was a horrible heap of shit that was blocking a parking space in contravention of his lease.

darkhorse - 23 Nov 2021 08:49:47 (#13 of 39)

I suppose you have to approach it the same as if you received a complaint that a working car had been stolen from the car park.

fogger - 23 Nov 2021 08:49:49 (#14 of 39)

The police will have a register of towing companies they call on.

Sure, but they aren't in the business of stealing cars.

Ginmonkey - 23 Nov 2021 08:52:40 (#15 of 39)

I think the only involvement the police had was when the owner reported the car as stolen they investigated and told him it had been scrapped.

Which is where it gets murky as the owner claims he did not scrap it but given the process for legally scrapping a car, I don't think anyone else can do so without his knowledge.

darkhorse - 23 Nov 2021 09:06:52 (#16 of 39)

Unless he is a) lying

Or b) left the V5 in the car which is handy for a thief.

Or c) it wasn't officially scrapped, but the police miscommunicated that it was scrapped when they'd seen it was SORNed.

Or something else I haven't thought of

Pinkgum - 23 Nov 2021 09:18:38 (#17 of 39)

I think a standard left at owners risk/management bears no responsibility reply and a willingness to cooperate in any investigation would suffice GM.

Is there CCTV and or the chance that dash cam footage picked it up?

Its his problem really - it's not even a neighbour dispute which you (freehold company) might be obliged to mediate. But I guess that won't be the answer he wants to hear.

darkhorse - 23 Nov 2021 09:23:26 (#18 of 39)

I assume he is doing a cheeky complaint hoping for compo.

JohnIlly - 23 Nov 2021 09:31:36 (#19 of 39)

Tell him you had the car valued and give him 50p.

helbel - 23 Nov 2021 09:35:16 (#20 of 39)

If he didn’t have it scrapped he needs to report the theft to the police and then take it up with his insurance company.

Assuming you have all the not liable stuff in the lease etc then it’s nothing to do with the flats. To show willing you could ask for any residents to check their CCTV/dash cam for evidence. But I fail to see how it’s the flat managements companies problem.

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