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Started by fogger on Feb 15, 2018 8:05:20 AM
England 2018 (Cricket)

Starting in NZ, followed by home series against Pakistan and India, with a bit of Australia and Scotland thrown in, before heading off to Sri Lanka.

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fogger - 15 Feb 2018 08:05:56 (#1 of 1294)

No Tests this Summer from June 5 to August 1. Seems a bit unusual.

spirali - 15 Feb 2018 16:19:53 (#2 of 1294)

Adil Rashid to play only white-ball cricket in 2018 (plus more Stokes stuff):

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/15/ben-stokes-may-train-england-team-mates-reunion

cozzer - 15 Feb 2018 22:55:54 (#3 of 1294)

I guess that adds credence to the idea that he asked not to be considered for the test team this winter.

fogger - 16 Feb 2018 08:05:00 (#4 of 1294)

He was probably annoyed that he got dropped after last Winter.

spirali - 16 Feb 2018 08:38:39 (#5 of 1294)

You could argue that the England selectors have pushed him towards this, by consistently picking him for the white-ball stuff while often ignoring him for Tests - instead picking lesser players such as Dawson, or taking a long-term punt on the rookie Crane.

Also - I don't know if Rashid has played in any of the lucrative T20 leagues but he may figure that if he can become a little more consistent in T20 then there's a good chance of a bonanza IPL payday.

dreams99 - 16 Feb 2018 20:21:51 (#6 of 1294)

Kohli scores his 3rd century in 6 ODIs v SA.

spirali - 18 Feb 2018 12:17:01 (#7 of 1294)

England manage a consolation win over NZ in the latest T20 but it won't get them through to the final. Morgan got 80, and I just read a rather convoluted stat on Malan, who apparently 'became the first man in international T20 to score four half-centuries in his first five matches'... right.. well.. eat yer heart out, Don Bradman.

This tour feels like it's now gone on far too long, yet the main NZ leg of it is still ahead of us.

LumpyBits - 18 Feb 2018 13:44:27 (#8 of 1294)

Now that we're properly into a new series, would anyone object if I started a 2018 thread?

cozzer - 18 Feb 2018 13:51:44 (#9 of 1294)

Yeah, I guess after 8 posts threads get a bit stale, and now the T20s are done we should have a new thread for the 50 over stuff.

cozzer - 18 Feb 2018 13:53:03 (#10 of 1294)

(the preceding post not to be taken literally, of course)

barkis - 18 Feb 2018 14:19:40 (#11 of 1294)

Rashid has been quite successful in the Big Bash. 2 or so years ago he was second highest wicket taker, his team having gone out in the semi-finals.

fogger - 18 Feb 2018 16:36:27 (#12 of 1294)

I'm wondering how badly Jimmy would do if he had to bowl four overs in a T20. We lost the game (well, the net run rate game) in the first six overs today.

spirali - 18 Feb 2018 18:30:48 (#13 of 1294)

Trevor Bayliss thinks T20 internationals should either be scrapped or greatly reduced in number:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/feb/18/twen
ty-20-internationals-abolished-trevor-bayliss


There's a curious situation with T20 - it's by far the most lucrative form of the game, drawing the biggest crowds, yet for the majority of players, administrators and long-term cricket fans it's a clearly inferior format (at least, that's my impression. You don't see teams resting half their players for Test series after all, whereas that's commonplace in T20). This contradiction means that something will have to give, and it will - sadly - presumably be the money that talks.

spirali - 19 Feb 2018 17:06:42 (#14 of 1294)

Vic Marks on the T20 international argument:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2018/feb/19
/trevor-bayliss-twenty-20-internationals-accountants-england-cricket


His conclusion is as above: that it will be the money that talks.

There's an interesting comment below the article claiming that the ostensibly hugely popular and successful Big Bash has lost a ton of money. Would be curious to know more about that.

barkis - 19 Feb 2018 21:24:18 (#15 of 1294)

Bayliss is suggesting that Farbrace should be made specialist T20 coach. Given that Bayliss has said he won't seek to renew his contracy when it expires next year that doesn't seem ideal for Farbrace if he's interested in the top job this time.

Bayliss also said that when he was an assistant manager he was told that the job of the assistant was to make the manager look good, and Farbrace had done that. 12 types of ambiguity there.

fogger - 19 Feb 2018 21:28:33 (#16 of 1294)

Bayliss should quit

spirali - 19 Feb 2018 22:06:42 (#17 of 1294)

Story here

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/feb/19/trev
or-bayliss-paul-farbrace-england-t20-coach


I dunno, it reads to me like Bayliss thinks Farbrace should get that job now - which would still put him in pole position for the main job when Bayliss leaves in 18 months' time, I'd have thought.

What is clear is that Bayliss really doesn't care for T20.

ToyDivision - 19 Feb 2018 22:15:16 (#18 of 1294)

What is clear is that Bayliss really doesn't care for T20.

Or Tests, for that matter. He's a very good coach for ODIs.

fogger - 19 Feb 2018 22:28:37 (#19 of 1294)

Our Test side has been crap. He should be sacked. Give KP the ODI job.

spirali - 20 Feb 2018 16:10:08 (#20 of 1294)

Hales has now 'done a Rashid' and opted to play only white-ball cricket

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/feb/20/alex-hales-second-england-cricketer-in-week-opt-white-ball-cricket

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