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Started by bossab2 on Aug 2, 2021 9:45:10 PM
Johnson's Climate Spokeswoman: "fuck the climate I dont give a shit"
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bossab2 - 02 Aug 2021 21:47:03 (#1 of 133)

In the interview, Stratton also said people had the right to take flights on holiday, despite the damage that aviation emissions do to the environment.

“This government isn’t in the business of dictating what your lifestyle choices should be,” she said. “It’s up to you to decide where you want to go on holiday. And it’s up to you to decide how you want to go on holiday.

And if half of you die in the next 30 years that's just market forces"

jamalade - 02 Aug 2021 21:47:47 (#2 of 133)

Yes! Ten points!

jamalade - 02 Aug 2021 21:48:44 (#3 of 133)

Sorry boss. I will read later.

CarlosFandango - 03 Aug 2021 10:44:05 (#4 of 133)

Don't bother.

Most of what she actually says is really fairly reasonable.

Verdigris - 03 Aug 2021 09:50:53 (#5 of 133)

Losers, ffs!

Still, it's good to see that HM Government agree with the OP on diesel/electric/public transport.

Agaliarept - 03 Aug 2021 10:51:25 (#6 of 133)

“This government isn’t in the business of dictating what your lifestyle choices should be,” she said.

Yay! Free the weed!

Pinkgum - 03 Aug 2021 11:10:17 (#7 of 133)

The thing is buying new before your old one has worn out, is not good for the environment.

The longer use you have use out of something, the lower your carbon footprint.

browserbutton - 03 Aug 2021 11:11:47 (#8 of 133)

I suppose that goes for power stations too.

Verdigris - 03 Aug 2021 10:19:53 (#9 of 133)

I suppose that goes for power stations too.



I think the carbon equation is somewhat different in the case of (coal fired) power stations. They are such gross emitters compared to the carbon embedded in their construction.

TheExcession - 03 Aug 2021 11:23:26 (#10 of 133)

They really do need to invest heavily in the infrastructure for electric vehicles to make them more viable though. Even in city centres there's usually only a handful of charging points and god knows what you're supposed to do if you don't have off-street parking at home. In the countryside: well good luck.

solomongursky - 03 Aug 2021 11:25:06 (#11 of 133)

Fewer vehicles, not newer vehicles. EVs do nothing to tackle congestion, obesity, collisions.

tasselhoff - 03 Aug 2021 11:25:36 (#12 of 133)

A bit of both, sol

browserbutton - 03 Aug 2021 11:27:19 (#13 of 133)

Anyway, Allegra is a snooty Johnsonette as well as being part of the Speccie clique, so I doubt if she does care much about the environment.

xDiggy - 03 Aug 2021 11:27:44 (#14 of 133)

It’s going to be The major stumbling block to adoption. Even where chargers exist there are multiple incompatible systems and standards. You’d have range anxiety in a petrol car if you could only stop at Shell garages and their pumps were frequently not working.

TheExcession - 03 Aug 2021 11:28:50 (#15 of 133)

We are talking about a class of people whose usual response to nature is to a) shoot it or b) drive over it in a gigantic 4x4 the size of an Abrams tank.

bailliegillies - 03 Aug 2021 11:30:35 (#16 of 133)

EVs do nothing to tackle congestion, obesity, collisions.



The carbon cost of manufacture is the same as petrol and diesel vehicles.

Pinkgum - 03 Aug 2021 11:30:46 (#17 of 133)

Weaning people off their personal vehicle addiction is far better for the environment.

It's not just the manufacturing and installation of supportive infrastructure of all these new electric cars, but the power needed to charge them.

Fewer cars is the best way forward.

tasselhoff - 03 Aug 2021 11:32:14 (#18 of 133)

We tend to need cars in the boonies. I'm installing PV panels in an attempt to be self-sufficient in leccie, including for a car (second hand).

xDiggy - 03 Aug 2021 11:32:20 (#19 of 133)

What Allegra Stratton is doing drawing a public salary is a good question though. The ill-advised PM spokesperson role fell through, and now she appears to be making clumping remarks like this and tweeting rubbish about rinsing plates.

xDiggy - 03 Aug 2021 11:32:45 (#20 of 133)

Fewer cars is the best way forward.

Yes but if you need *any* cars in future they need to be electric.

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