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Started by pipsqueak on Jan 30, 2018 11:26:10 AM
Work experience

My son is in year 12 (in Tunbridge Wells) and is looking for a week's work experience July 9-13 in any sort of design environment. He could travel to London or anywhere reachable by train or bus. Anyone out there able to help? He is bright, helpful, polite and presentable and is studying graphics, media and sociology.

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Yammoto - 04 Apr 2018 15:55:28 (#1 of 33)

Well good luck! I've had two goes at finding work exp for my lads- emailing round various engineering firms- nada ): The best was asking my neighbour (runs his own garage) "nope" then shut the door!!!

Might be better off getting one of those zero hours contracts with your local council- its "work" and an "experience"...

SheikYerbouti - 04 Apr 2018 15:56:41 (#2 of 33)

Does the school not assist with these things any more?

Yammoto - 04 Apr 2018 15:59:40 (#3 of 33)

No help from the school, but when Yam Snr went to college they found him a couple of weeks colouring in street lighting plans- enough to switch him off completely ):

A few weeks in a warehouse might be better in the long run- even if the lesson is "I'd better get some qualifications or its this forever".

SheikYerbouti - 04 Apr 2018 16:06:16 (#4 of 33)

Interesting. Back in the day, a couple of weeks Work Experience was a required part of the GCSE year - not that far from exam time, in fact. I expect that's why they don't do it any more.

A few weeks in a warehouse might be better in the long run- even if the lesson is "I'd better get some qualifications or its this forever".

I tend to agree with this. But that can be done over the summer, and paid at minimum wage, to get the full benefit.

nemo75 - 04 Apr 2018 16:06:26 (#5 of 33)

What? Surely schools manage placements. If they aren't placed they have to go to school.

Yammoto - 04 Apr 2018 16:12:20 (#6 of 33)

I may have misremembered- having done the employers end of it yes- theres a lot of hoops to jump through!

Tenesmus - 04 Apr 2018 16:14:16 (#7 of 33)

I can't remember if it was on here recently, but somewhere I read that employers don't want to because of the huge amount of effort it takes.

SheikYerbouti - 04 Apr 2018 16:17:22 (#8 of 33)

Also you have to do all nonce screenings and stuff.

Cordelia - 04 Apr 2018 16:19:29 (#9 of 33)

It does, depending on the environment. I had a work experience person with me today. Privately arranged by her family as she is A level rather than GCSE year. But she still had to do the H&S and security stuff. And it’s hard work finding things that she can do given she doesn’t know how to do it, and she’s not DBS checked which you need for my job so there are things she’s not allowed to do, even if she could.

Also I was furious because I wasn’t told she was coming in - she just got introduced to me this morning and told she was with me for the rest of the day. But that’s work’s fault - not hers. So not having had a chance to plan the day didn’t help.

Yammoto - 04 Apr 2018 16:21:01 (#10 of 33)

Heh- one lad came in for a week, but I hadn't asked if there were any medical conditions we ought to be aware of. Turned out he was on the spectrum- but absolutely loved checking invoices. Here- have ANOTHER pile!

These guys are brilliant at repetitive tasks- we now have them in regularly.

SheikYerbouti - 04 Apr 2018 16:23:33 (#11 of 33)

Perhaps you should get some convicts in to break rocks too.

Tenesmus - 04 Apr 2018 16:26:43 (#12 of 33)

We had a couple of kids in at the NHS place I worked, the boy (son of a particularly obnoxious consultant) was a prick who kept trying to grope the unwilling girl. I suspect he thought he could do what he liked because mum.

chazzly - 04 Apr 2018 16:26:48 (#13 of 33)

A few years ago there used to be something called the Education Business Partnership, they helped to co-ordinate and fund work placements (mostly for insurance and H&S checks) for kids in years 10 and 11. They no longer exist.

There was never any regular funding in place for post 16 kids and, with funding being cut by around 15% over the last few years (with more to come), colleges find it expensive. The college I'm at has, for the last two years, arranged experience for level 2 students through a third party company, but it's fucking hard work.

For more long term stuff the Year in Industry is still around (now rebranded EDT), and locally (Cheshire) we have an organisation who co-ordinates and formalises voluntary stuff.

This site used to work really well, but not so much now:

https://do-it.org/

There's still the old fashioned way of trawling through yellow pages for local graphics/media/marketing companies and pitching a CV.

Yammoto - 04 Apr 2018 16:27:12 (#14 of 33)

We have contacts with a local special school, the job prospects are pretty dim. If they have talents a business can use, why not?

Tenesmus - 04 Apr 2018 16:28:07 (#15 of 33)

Do any of them end up with proper jobs at your place when they leave school?

Yammoto - 04 Apr 2018 16:30:46 (#16 of 33)

Too early to say- just kicked off this year. The biz has just taken on some regular apprentices though, which is encouraging. One of the feedbacks from the scheme I ran was very touching- the engineers, all older guys approaching retirement, loved being able to pass on their experience to the next gen. I was expecting a lot of grief from them, but it didn't turn out that way at all.

Impedimenta - 04 Apr 2018 16:47:31 (#17 of 33)

These guys are brilliant at repetitive tasks



Are they?

#14 - you pay them for the use of these talents, of course?

Yammoto - 04 Apr 2018 16:48:53 (#18 of 33)

No, we throw them some biscuits and watch them fight in the yard.

SheikYerbouti - 04 Apr 2018 16:51:02 (#19 of 33)

Very much in the spirit of the sadly defunct Remploy.

Yammoto - 04 Apr 2018 16:57:48 (#20 of 33)

They were a GBOL. When working in a warehouse years back we used to take our sarnies outside and sit on the wall with them. Lovely people.

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