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Started by nrv0us on Sep 21, 2018 10:08:23 AM
What advice are you giving your child on university/career?

For those with kids, how are you handling the discussion around university and careers? Things are very different now than they were back when we were at that stage, so I am just curious to know how you are approaching these conversations.

Is university still worth it? Would you consider not sending your child to university at all? How about subject choices -- would you be OK with them doing a more creative or humanities-based subject, or are you worried about eventual employability upon graduation?

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Leftie - 21 Sep 2018 10:12:43 (#1 of 158)

At least you are having a discussion!

I don't think at 18 it's a case of "sending your child".

I think you should be able to ask parents about jobs etc. I think a good way to help would be to suggest jobs as well as the courses and universities.

helbel - 21 Sep 2018 10:13:24 (#2 of 158)

Gah! -10 points.

Leftie - 21 Sep 2018 10:17:35 (#3 of 158)

Are we STILL doing "Guess the poster?" for the thread titles?!

nrv0us - 21 Sep 2018 10:19:13 (#4 of 158)

The whole 'guess the poster' isn't intended as hostile, but I do recall it staying my hand on many occasions back when I used to post on here more regularly. I would have really interesting (to me) thread idea, and then decide against posting it because I knew everyone would do the whole '10 points' thing.

SheikYerbouti - 21 Sep 2018 10:20:28 (#5 of 158)

Its usually only people who go on and on about the same old shit that get '10 points'.

If you're not one of those, you'll be fine.

crackfox - 21 Sep 2018 10:22:01 (#6 of 158)

If you want to do a creative or humanities-based subject, do it at a Russell Group university. An English and film studies degree from Bristol is not the same as one from the University of Sunderland (which is not to say it is better, but that's how future employers will view it).

Leftie - 21 Sep 2018 10:24:41 (#7 of 158)

I don't think I ever played the "Guess the poster" thing. Though I do enjoy it.

Both of my degrees are from Sunderland. I hate to bring this up again but I got a 2:2 for my BA and I was just a couple of points off getting a 2:1. It's cost me jobs. I've phoned up companies saying "Do you really require a 2:1? Is it really that essential?"

SheikYerbouti - 21 Sep 2018 10:25:33 (#8 of 158)

You should give it a go, leftiers. Live a little.

Gotout - 21 Sep 2018 10:26:25 (#9 of 158)

Are we STILL doing "Guess the poster?" for the thread titles?!

For some thread titles it's just too easy.

Leftie - 21 Sep 2018 10:26:39 (#10 of 158)

I might start joining in.

Leftie - 21 Sep 2018 10:27:34 (#11 of 158)

Which? advice.

https://university.which.co.uk/advice/advice-for-parents

kentigern - 21 Sep 2018 10:29:02 (#12 of 158)

I think I'd support my child to do what they wanted where they wanted when it comes to education. Education is a good thing, and should be celebrated as being good for society. It's not just about creating workers. Or it shouldn't be.

If they didn't want to, that's fine too, and just because they didn't want to straight from school doesn't mean they couldn't later.

thisonehasalittlehat - 21 Sep 2018 10:29:13 (#13 of 158)

If you want to do a creative or humanities-based subject, do it at a Russell Group university. An English and film studies degree from Bristol is not the same as one from the University of Sunderland (which is not to say it is better, but that's how future employers will view it).

Indeed. Not least because sunderland don't appear to do English and Film Studies.

tasselhoff - 21 Sep 2018 10:32:59 (#14 of 158)

My daughter went to do languages and flunked the 1st year (they do selection after 1st year of uni in France, rather than via the Bac) because she was more interested in theatre and stuff.

So she went off and became a hotel receptionist, finishing in a 4 star hotel. Now she's moved to Holland with her boyfriend, got a decent job and just bought a house.

And I feel very, very old.

So, I guess it all depends what you're after. She seems happy enough with her side projects.

Jacob_Richter - 21 Sep 2018 10:33:44 (#15 of 158)

https://www.sunderland.ac.uk/study/english/

https://www.sunderland.ac.uk/study/media/undergrad
uate-film-media/

thisonehasalittlehat - 21 Sep 2018 10:36:17 (#16 of 158)

Yes they do them separately.

nrv0us - 21 Sep 2018 10:38:41 (#17 of 158)

I thought this was an interesting article. "Why our universities are a con" is a bit of an inflammatory headline, but there's a lot in here that challenges the notion that university is necessarily A Good Thing.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep
/20/university-factory-failed-tony-blair-social-mobility-jobs?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Facebook

pmcblonde - 21 Sep 2018 10:39:27 (#18 of 158)

Unless you love the subject or see a clear career path do a degree apprenticeship instead

thisonehasalittlehat - 21 Sep 2018 10:42:06 (#19 of 158)

#17 Ah an oxford graduate suggesting it's a waste of time for other people to go to university? You surprise me.

Moschops - 21 Sep 2018 10:44:33 (#20 of 158)

Ah, someone whose ob is reliant on people attending university deriding that opinion. Colour me surprised.

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