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Started by LegalEyesAsh on Jan 30, 2015 11:01:10 PM
Kubrick critics and appreciation thread.

He is probably my favourite director of all time. Feel free to say what ever you really feel about any his movies, all comments welcome, no offence taken.

Eyes Wide Shut is well 'ard, innit.

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ZimAgain - 30 Jan 2015 23:03:49 (#1 of 181)

Cheers, Ash.



I found Eyes Wide Shut rather disappointing, and it's a pity it turned out to be his last film. I'm sure AI would have been better if he'd got it finished. (Never send a Spielberg to do a Kubrick's job.)

Turkish - 30 Jan 2015 23:07:24 (#2 of 181)

I saw Eyes Wide Shut in Lisbon. Dubbed into Portuguese. Badly. I formed the impression that the film was somehow censored or edited. I did not like it although I am generally a fan of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman.

mingmong - 30 Jan 2015 23:10:31 (#3 of 181)

I thought it was fuckin brilliant

Secret societies, masks, nekid people - what's not to like?

solomongursky - 30 Jan 2015 23:11:33 (#4 of 181)

Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman.

LegalEyesAsh - 30 Jan 2015 23:11:49 (#5 of 181)

Welcom zim, I've tried EWS a couple of times, it's either very difficult for me to get, or just a mess. Perhaps I give it more leeway than others, will tackle again.

Right on regarding Spielberg, I felt AI played on that sentimental sap Spielberg's quite fond of and the false sense of tragedy overpowered the other strands. Would you believe I've got a special edition DVD of AI and have never bothered to watch beyond the movie itself? Whereas anything Shining, 2001, or ACO related I'll happily settle down on Youtube for an extended perusal.

Turkish - 30 Jan 2015 23:12:13 (#6 of 181)

I must admit I thought the geezer who played the organ was cool.

LegalEyesAsh - 30 Jan 2015 23:16:30 (#7 of 181)

Eyes Wide Shut- Whenever I think of it I'm reminded of, oh what's it called, probably all of you will remember the red death/masquerade movie I'm thinking of, the one with the fella who has the blown glass bottles attached to his back in one scene.

Anyway, a spooky sense of foreboding. That works for me. But I can't extract any deep message from EWS.

Cavewoman - 30 Jan 2015 23:21:21 (#8 of 181)

I love Kubrick's use of music.

SlasherBindman - 30 Jan 2015 23:23:26 (#9 of 181)

The novel that inspired Eyes Wide Shut is brilliant - Dream Story by Arthur Schnitzler. Captures the atmosphere of Freud's Vienna.

ZimAgain - 30 Jan 2015 23:23:36 (#10 of 181)

The Masque of the Red Death? Vincent Price? Yes, I can see that. :-)

What bugged me most about Eyes Wide Shut was the music. Maybe it was intentionally irritating, but I don't generally watch films in order to be irritated.

And yes, Cavewoman, his use of music was often brilliant, just not in this case.

SlasherBindman - 30 Jan 2015 23:25:25 (#11 of 181)

Eyes Wide Shut is one of my favourite alternative Christmas films.

donttellhimpike - 30 Jan 2015 23:26:59 (#12 of 181)

2001 is his best film, The Shining is alao great but not as good as Full Metal Jacket, the whole film, not just the first half.

That's my reckon. Oh and the edit between the Hominid chucking the bone in the air and the Spaceship? Cinematic brilliance on a par with the Wizard of Oz going from Sepia to colour.

JohnIlly - 30 Jan 2015 23:34:22 (#13 of 181)

2001 is the most overrated, boring pile of tosh I have ever suffered in a cinema. Hearing The Blue Danube still sends me into a catatonic trance.

A Clockwork Orange, however, is a work of genius.

ZimAgain - 30 Jan 2015 23:35:23 (#14 of 181)

The fade between parts 1 and 2 of Full Metal Jacket is almost as good as the bone-spacecship cut in 2001 imo. Going from Joker's face after the splattered head* to These Boots Were Made for Walking was a typically cynical touch of genius.

*No, I'm not going to do spoiler getouts in this thread. 'Cos I'm still on NtT.

LegalEyesAsh - 30 Jan 2015 23:37:27 (#15 of 181)

Zim, that's it, thanks!

Cavey, totally agree, there's such a range, it's funny to think there are many Kubrick-classical related music themes now which are parodied or done in homage to his films, a sign of just how influential he really was.

Speaking of which I just listened to Barry Lyndon By Stanley Kubrick, Schubert Andante Con Moto Piano Trio No. 2 and now for a remix album, The Caretaker's An Empty Bliss Beyond This World, inspired by The Shining. Perfect ambient music...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL998ajnjN4

LegalEyesAsh - 30 Jan 2015 23:48:15 (#16 of 181)

A Clockwork Orange, however, is a work of genius.

The beer's working so I'm off but just to say, it is, it was, and I only really took an interest in his movies to begin with because the original novels for ACO and 2001 were on a bookshelf by my desk at school.

Later on when I'd got to see those particular movies I found myself agreeing with the reported reason for ACOs withdrawal at his request. It was and still is right on the edge where violence is concerned.

Factoid: many scenes were filmed at Brunel's Uxbridge campus, it looked almost exactly the same when I started there in '88. The treatments in the theatre bits was in the main lecture theatre, the group discipline scenes were at the Maths block, even the jail cell, which was a halls bedroom, right down to the painted breeze blocks, furniture and blankets.

ZimAgain - 30 Jan 2015 23:54:55 (#17 of 181)

Dammit, I've had to put Full Metal Jacket on now.

AshburtonAbove - 30 Jan 2015 23:58:26 (#18 of 181)

Having read this thread I will give Full Metal Jacket a watch tomorrow.

donttellhimpike - 31 Jan 2015 01:58:54 (#19 of 181)

I still marvel that he wasn't sued by Ian Paisley for ACO.

Bribaba - 31 Jan 2015 08:22:11 (#20 of 181)

The highest rated SK film on IMDB is The Shining with 8.5. My own favourite is The Killing. Worst, by some distance, would be Eyes Wide Shut.

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