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Started by KanKhaderKhanKan on Jun 25, 2021 11:39:48 PM
List your "I don't get how this overrated tosh is considered a CLASSIC" film mentions...

Alongside a mention of a film(s) you think is criminally still obscure.

I'll kick this off with a really controversial take:

Mullholland Drive (2001) and Taxi Driver (1976) are overrated as hell.

Film(s) that should be more widely known/appreciated?:

'The Ox-Bow Incident' (1943) and 'The Devil and Daniel Webster' (1936)

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KanKhaderKhanKan - 25 Jun 2021 23:44:28 (#1 of 299)

Taxi Driver is so overrated I would consider 'Joker' (obviously influenced by Taxi Driver) to be a better film and no do I consider TD to be a patch on 'The Searchers' and in particular the John Wayne character whom Travis Bickle is obviously modelled upon.

Furthermore, I'd say Robert De Niro was a better actor in Godfather 2 then he was in TD.



Mullholland Drive? Not a patch on Vertigo or even for that matter any of Hitchcock's second-tier films.

ZimAgain - 26 Jun 2021 00:04:19 (#2 of 299)

Pulp Fiction

Or anything else I've watched from QT for that matter.



Underappreciated? I've said elsewhere that Zardoz is one of my guilty pleasures. Wonderful cinematography, a wonderfully silly plot, and Sean Connery in a wedding dress. What more could you want?

sympforthedevil - 26 Jun 2021 00:12:40 (#3 of 299)

I can get with the Tarantino hate. Reservoir Dogs was unpleasant but seemed like something a bit new (to me - I don't know Asian film very well). Pulp Fiction was just jokey nastiness, though. Then he did a cameo in some film with Ethan Hawke (or Steve Buscemi??) where he's at a party telling that shitty Top Gun joke. After that, I didn't want to see anything else by him or with him in.

HerpDerp - 26 Jun 2021 00:28:51 (#4 of 299)

The Big Lebowski - boring story, not funny (hur hur him out of Roseanne said "shut the fuck up Donny" again)

Underrated - anything with Scott Adkins in it

SinnerBoy - 26 Jun 2021 00:56:42 (#5 of 299)

Tim Roth ruined Reservoir Dogs, with his whiny British voice, talking American.

I've tried to watch Taxi Driver three times. Given up at about 45 minutes, every time.

YogiMeerfield - 26 Jun 2021 01:06:15 (#6 of 299)

I wouldn't say it was tosh, but I was certainly underwhelmed by The Godfather when I finally got around to watching it.

The second one is better, but still a bit plodding. Never found time for the third, but I hear it's not very good - although I know there's been a recent revamped version, which might be worth looking into.

sympforthedevil - 26 Jun 2021 01:08:36 (#7 of 299)

Taxi Driver's bleak but I do think it's a very good film, personally.

widenation - 26 Jun 2021 01:26:44 (#8 of 299)

The Big Lebowski - agree - I'm a Coen Bros fan but never got the massive praise for this.

Taxi Driver - disagree - I just have to read the title and I can hear the score and several scenes pop into my head - not many films can do that.

champagnerocker - 26 Jun 2021 02:02:02 (#9 of 299)

Not only will I agree that Taxi Driver is overrated tosh, but i'd extend that to say any and all Scorsese / deNiro collaborations are overrated tosh.

Criminally not well known enough: Heathers. Although I cannot imagine it ever being shown on tv again. I stumbled across it on C4 ~20 years ago, and even though I was a student slacker it was starting at well past my bedtime.

I am aware that there have (relatively recently) been attempts to adapt it for both stage and tv, but I cannot imagine that these productions were anything but awful.

widenation - 26 Jun 2021 02:59:38 (#10 of 299)

Heathers is cack. There are plenty of better teen films made at that time.

widenation - 26 Jun 2021 03:09:18 (#11 of 299)

River's Edge for example.

LemonGrass - 26 Jun 2021 04:11:11 (#12 of 299)

I enjoyed Heathers at the time.

Garden - 26 Jun 2021 04:17:00 (#13 of 299)

Prizzi's Honor (1985) was simply terrible.

darkhorse - 26 Jun 2021 07:37:54 (#14 of 299)

Not a classic, but admired in certain circles, I don't see why The Matrix is considered a good film by anybody above the age of 14. It's a good film for people up to the age of 10-14.

The plot is derivative and illogical. It's a blatant childish power fantasy (invulnerable hero with great fighting skills by magic). It's pretty humourless and the mystical bollocks is...bollocks.

Special effects and action sequences are good for a film for 14 year olds

solomongursky - 26 Jun 2021 07:46:16 (#15 of 299)

I was certainly underwhelmed by The Godfather

Why?

You could legitimately say it's a PR piece for organised crime, otherwise it stands up as a beautifully crafted movie.

TommyDGNR8 - 26 Jun 2021 07:52:17 (#16 of 299)

Fucking Bladerunner.

thisonehasalittlehat - 26 Jun 2021 08:00:35 (#17 of 299)

The matrix is a good film because (if you don't know in advance) the twist a third of the way through is very effective. And it had innovative camera work making it visually very arresting at the time,. The sequels are rubbish though and all cgi.

thisonehasalittlehat - 26 Jun 2021 08:04:20 (#18 of 299)

Balderunner is an amazing film.

darkhorse - 26 Jun 2021 08:06:05 (#19 of 299)

I'd pay to see Balderunner.

thisonehasalittlehat - 26 Jun 2021 08:07:08 (#20 of 299)

Oops

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