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Started by Arjuna on Feb 5, 2016 2:51:02 PM
Premier League Dinosaurs

The bottom three clubs have seventeen titles between them, fifteen FA cups, probably a few league cups and a big cup. Admittedly most of this was before Sky invented football but they were still the 4th, 6th and 10th best supported teams last season.

What's going wrong?

TheWarOnTerry - 05 Feb 2016 19:04:19 (#1 of 14)

Each of them has accumulated the dead weight of a greedy owner unwilling to invest in the requisite talent to survive and prosper. That and the slow torture that is the decomposition of hope through the gradual decline of playing standards and creeping mediocrity.

Sorry, what was the question again?

Arjuna - 05 Feb 2016 19:11:17 (#2 of 14)

Newcastle were the second biggest net spenders last summer and I think the biggest in the January window.

TinyMcOtter - 05 Feb 2016 20:44:45 (#3 of 14)

I think they've just become not very good at playing football.

HouseOfLametta - 05 Feb 2016 20:51:03 (#4 of 14)

TRex is better at football than rugby.

FGBFGB - 05 Feb 2016 20:52:08 (#5 of 14)

Better still at baking.

HouseOfLametta - 05 Feb 2016 20:52:47 (#6 of 14)

Diplodocus would be ace at basketball.

xDiggy - 05 Feb 2016 20:54:05 (#7 of 14)

Sunderland have clearly become addicted to the rush of almost getting relegated and then saving themselves at the last possible minute. A bit like auto-erotic asphyxiation.

RunnyBabbit - 05 Feb 2016 21:19:07 (#8 of 14)

All teams need to gel - often they don't. MOAR and MOAR superstars might not be the answer.

All teams need certain players who aren't actually very good at football, but happen to be fab at carrying the piano / doing the dirty work.

Fans screaming for players to be dropped after one or two bad games. It's madness gorn crazy gorn stupid, and sucks confidence out of the team.

RunnyBabbit - 05 Feb 2016 21:30:34 (#9 of 14)

Of course it probably helps a lot if your super-fit piano carriers are also good/excellent at footie.

See: Barcelona

Bonusy - 05 Feb 2016 22:18:47 (#10 of 14)

What's going wrong?

What's wrong with this? A couple of yo-yo teams yo-yo and Villa finally give up after years of going no-where. I don't see this as indicative of any significant change in football.

Also, transfer spending has fewer of a correlation with league position than salary spend.

gumlygumly - 05 Feb 2016 23:37:07 (#11 of 14)

good point runny....see:rakatic: piano filled with water that he can actually bang out a reasonable tune on carrying box to box midfielder with a big engine/great first touch/excellent passing game.who plays with his head up.moar rakatiches required at the dinosaur clubs ...

gumlygumly - 05 Feb 2016 23:38:39 (#12 of 14)

a lesser correlation in other words? ...

Arjuna - 05 Feb 2016 23:43:42 (#13 of 14)

Those three clubs are 7th, 8th and 10th in salary spending, well they were two years back

Bonusy - 06 Feb 2016 05:31:49 (#14 of 14)

7th-13th on that list shows little variance, compared to the 6 above them (oddity with 12/13 not being in order), and £50m covers 7th-20th. Clearly there is a mid-table group who are under-performing, but so are chelsea and Liverpool. Every season you'll get some teams underperform and some overperform - it's a correlation, not an exact predictor of final positions.

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