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Started by SteveFrench on Oct 11, 2018 11:31:46 AM
Thread for being right all along

There isn’t enough triumphalist crowing on the internet.

SteveFrench - 11 Oct 2018 11:32:22 (#1 of 19)

So when it comes to climate change, the authors looked at what they called a "flexitarian diet".

"We can eat a range of healthy diets but what they all have in common, according to the latest scientific evidence, is that they are all relatively plant based," said lead author Dr Marco Springmann from the University of Oxford.

"You can go from a diet that has small amounts of animal products, some might call it a Mediterranean based diet, we call it a flexitarian diet, over to a pescatarian, vegetarian or vegan diet - we tried to stay with the most conservative one of these which in our view is the flexitarian one, but even this has only one serving of red meat per week."

SteveFrench - 11 Oct 2018 11:33:11 (#2 of 19)

Although technically that is a different ‘flecitarian’ diet than the one in fashion a few years ago


Bonusy - 11 Oct 2018 11:35:29 (#3 of 19)

"Dr Marco Springmann tells Today eating one portion of red meat a week could help tackle global warming"

So eating more portions must be better for the environment!

The could have made it clear in the box that "only one portion" is the point there

Arjuna - 11 Oct 2018 11:37:55 (#4 of 19)

I haven't eaten red meat for thirty years, sorry about the global warming and all that but I am not starting now.

Bonusy - 11 Oct 2018 11:38:55 (#5 of 19)

"Tackling food loss and waste will require measures across the entire food chain, from storage, and transport, over food packaging and labelling to changes in legislation and business behaviour that promote zero-waste supply chains,"

Less logistical friction would be an important part there. Hopefully our political leadership can work with your trading partners to improve that situation in the near future

Bonusy - 11 Oct 2018 11:40:43 (#6 of 19)

I think I've become vaguely flexitarian without thinking about it, have largely substituted meat for Quorn. I don't avoid it if it is on offer, but I don't buy meat often at all these days

widenation - 11 Oct 2018 11:42:18 (#7 of 19)

As above - the substitutes are all pretty good nowadays.

CloakAndDagger - 11 Oct 2018 11:43:36 (#8 of 19)

Full on carnivore here, I'm afraid. Can't remember the last non-breakfast meal that didn't contain meat.

Bonusy - 11 Oct 2018 11:45:03 (#9 of 19)

Audi-driving golfer hates the environment? This is a shocking break from expectations

uranrising - 11 Oct 2018 12:21:41 (#10 of 19)

have largely substituted meat for Quorn.

Or, as we say in the old country

have largely substituted Quorn for meat.

uranrising - 11 Oct 2018 12:23:48 (#11 of 19)

Not had red meat for decades. And did tell everyone about the documentary Cowspiracy recently.

And did anyone take the trouble to watch? I dawn't fink saw.

Pheeep - 11 Oct 2018 12:26:22 (#12 of 19)

I like to think of myself as a transitive closure vegetarian: I eat [things which eat]* vegetables.

Bonusy - 11 Oct 2018 12:29:32 (#13 of 19)

* In the old days, you could safely assume that this wasn't advocacy for cannibalism, but right-wing commentators have changed that paradigm today

uranrising - 11 Oct 2018 13:05:34 (#14 of 19)

They haven't changed the paradigm. They may have tried to, or even merely offered a different view. Doesn't mean the rest of us have bought it.

butterflyeffect - 11 Oct 2018 14:03:51 (#15 of 19)

Is pig red meat? Because it doesn't look red like beef of lamb does.

Bonusy - 11 Oct 2018 14:06:59 (#16 of 19)

beef is of coo, no lamb

still, all mammals though

widenation - 11 Oct 2018 14:07:08 (#17 of 19)

Salami does.

dreams99 - 11 Oct 2018 14:08:27 (#18 of 19)

The trouble with pork is that most of the ways we eat it - bacon, ham, sausage - is processed, and that's meant to be bad for us.

Bonusy - 11 Oct 2018 14:09:11 (#19 of 19)

Wiki says:

In culinary terms, only flesh from mammals or fowl (not fish) is classified as red or white.[3][4] In nutritional science, on the other hand, red meat is defined as any meat that has more of the protein myoglobin than "white meat", defined as non-dark meat from chicken (excluding the leg or thigh) or fish. Some meat, such as pork, is classified as red meat under the nutritional definition, and white meat under the common or gastronomic definition.

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