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Started by cozzer on May 3, 2019 11:38:43 AM
Lucky England cricket thread - the collapse continues

We were at over 10,000 posts for the old thread, seemed a good time to set up a shiny new thread to talk about the World Cup and the Ashes this year.

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cozzer - 03 May 2019 11:39:36 (#1 of 241)

I'm sure everyone will be astonished to hear it is raining in Dublin.

Alex Hales has been selected for Nottinghamshire, but it's raining in Grantham*, too, so he's not playing yet either.

* yes, that's Grantham, Lincs. I don't know, either.

Moschops - 03 May 2019 11:54:41 (#2 of 241)

Hampshire play home games on the IOW as well

cozzer - 03 May 2019 12:00:55 (#3 of 241)

Yes, and Glamorgan play in Colwyn Bay which isn't even in the adjacent county.

Bonusy - 03 May 2019 12:28:27 (#4 of 241)

wut? Is that some sort of cricket gag?

cozzer - 03 May 2019 12:40:11 (#5 of 241)

No. It's what it says. Glamorgan play in Colwyn Bay, which is in Conwy, which is not adjacent to Glamorgan (any of them).

Moschops - 03 May 2019 12:41:10 (#6 of 241)

How many Glamorgans are there?

cozzer - 03 May 2019 12:41:57 (#7 of 241)

three, isn't it? Mid, South, West.

cozzer - 03 May 2019 13:23:26 (#8 of 241)

who is this useless Archer fellow? 4-0-21-0

Bonusy - 03 May 2019 13:58:05 (#9 of 241)

Glamorgan play in Colwyn Bay

Aye, I used to work in Bae Colwyn, still remember where it is (although it'll always be Clwyd county to me)

Where's it says Glamorgan play there though? Their own site claims Caerdydd as the location of their ground

cozzer - 03 May 2019 14:28:23 (#10 of 241)

Sofia Gardens is their main ground, but they play one game a year in Llandrillo-yn-Rhos (if we're going down that route). I saw a Makhaya Ntini-containing Warks play there once.

https://www.glamorgancricket.com/visiting/colwynba
y.html

LordofMisrule - 03 May 2019 14:30:03 (#11 of 241)

It's in the nature of county cricket, where the team represents a larger area than just a city/town. Counties have always had 'home' grounds where they play the bulk of their fixtures and 'out' grounds (club grounds across the region) they play at occasionally.

Penrhyn Avenue in Colwyn Bay is one of Glamorgan's out-grounds, and they usually play one or two fixtures a year there, along with the St Helen's ground in Swansea. Formerly they played at Rodney Parade in Newport, Abergavenny (still a powerhouse club in the Welsh leagues) and sundry other places across Wales.

Bonusy - 03 May 2019 14:35:56 (#12 of 241)

Ah, so it's a case of Glamorgan play "a" home game in Rhos once a season. Cozzer was being misleading there

cozzer - 03 May 2019 14:36:14 (#13 of 241)

Counties have always had 'home' grounds where they play the bulk of their fixtures and 'out' grounds

well yes, but the out grounds are usually within the same county (or, at least, places that were in the historical county, where county boundaries had changed over time).

along with the St Helen's ground in Swansea

But Swansea is still in Glamorgan

I brought it up because Notts are playing in Grantham in Lincs, but that is at least only just over the boundary from Notts. Conwy is not adjacent to Glamorgan. (Monmouthsire, cf Newport and Y Fenni, is).

cozzer - 03 May 2019 14:36:57 (#14 of 241)

Cozzer was being misleading there

What's misleading about it? they play regular fixtures at Colwyn Bay. That's entirely consistent with what I said.

Bonusy - 03 May 2019 14:37:17 (#15 of 241)

North Wales is nicer than South Wales though, so mebbe that is why they go there annually, to see somewhere nice that isn't south Wales

cozzer - 03 May 2019 14:38:57 (#16 of 241)

So far, CurranT has the pick of the bowling, 4-1-8-2

Bonusy - 03 May 2019 14:39:03 (#17 of 241)

Glamorgan play in Colwyn Bay

To me, that sentence implies their home ground is in Colwyn Bay. whereas "Glamorgan regularly play a game in Colwyn Bay" would not have been misleading

LordofMisrule - 03 May 2019 14:48:51 (#18 of 241)

There's plenty of cricket played in North Wales, and clearly it was deemed reasonable that they were worthy of hosting some top level cricket that they wouldn't otherwise see, so Glamorgan have been going there since the mid 1960s.

'Wales' as a whole is only classed as a minor county - and that team usually plays at South Wales grounds - so who else is going to go there? Historically - given the number of holidaymakers from Merseyside and the West Midlands - you could make a case for Warwickshire or Lancashire hosting a festival on the North Wales coast too...

LordofMisrule - 03 May 2019 15:05:12 (#19 of 241)

I think I'm right in saying Warks are also playing one of their fixtures outside of the county this season.

Due to the pressures of international cricket this year, many of the counties are shifting more of their fixtures to out-grounds than they've played in years.

They then run into the problem that there really aren't many club grounds with sufficiently good facilities/pitches these days, which I think is one of the motivations for Notts choosing Grantham (they've also had pretty strong links in recent years with the Lincolnshire minor county).

Notts are also playing at Welbeck in the north of the county later in the summer.

fogger - 03 May 2019 15:07:25 (#20 of 241)

Who let Bonus in here?

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