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Started by TinyMcOtter on Mar 10, 2018 8:26:32 PM
Winston Churchill: war criminal, racist, terrorist?
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TinyMcOtter - 10 Mar 2018 20:28:26 (#1 of 660)

From the article.

Dealing with unrest in Mesopotamia in 1921, as secretary of state for the colonies, Churchill acted as a war criminal: “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against the uncivilised tribes; it would spread a lively terror.” He ordered large-scale bombing of Mesopotamia, with an entire village wiped out in 45 minutes.

In Afghanistan, Churchill declared that the Pashtuns “needed to recognise the superiority of [the British] race” and that “all who resist will be killed without quarter.” He wrote: “We proceeded systematically, village by village, and we destroyed the houses, filled up the wells, blew down the towers, cut down the great shady trees, burned the crops and broke the reservoirs in punitive devastation. … Every tribesman caught was speared or cut down at once.”

TinyMcOtter - 10 Mar 2018 20:29:51 (#2 of 660)

In Kenya, Churchill either directed or was complicit in policies involving the forced relocation of local people from the fertile highlands to make way for white colonial settlers and the forcing of more than 150,000 people into concentration camps. Rape, castration, lit cigarettes on tender spots, and electric shocks were all used by the British authorities to torture Kenyans under Churchill’s rule.

AdrianNTierney - 10 Mar 2018 20:59:15 (#3 of 660)

If one were to read some of the comments in the Washington Post's linked article, you'd get a more balanced view.

Perhaps.

Arjuna - 10 Mar 2018 21:28:27 (#4 of 660)

“History,” Winston Churchill said, “will be kind to me, for I intend to write it myself.”

he didn't write that, he wrote this

‘For my part, I consider that it will be found much better by all Parties to leave the past to history, especially as I propose to write that history myself.’ (Churchill, 23 January 1948)

http://www.churchillarchiveforschools.com/themes/t
he-themes/churchill-discussion-debate-and-historical-controversy


He does not use the word 'kind'. At that point, history had not been kind to him, he had been voted out of office before the war finished. He may not have faced odium in the West but the British people had already taken a judgement on the man. He reportedly felt that to be more bitter than kind but that judgement was probably far more measured than either the myth that has grown up around him since or of that of his more voraciois critics. Many in Britain were well averse to his vices as well as his virtues for they had lived through that history.

Cartimandua - 10 Mar 2018 22:30:50 (#5 of 660)

In a word: bollocks.

rgtstoppedcounting - 10 Mar 2018 23:06:47 (#6 of 660)

Must be at least a year since the last CHURCHILL POISON GAS OUTRAGE thread.

Well done Tiny.

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rgtstoppedcounting - 10 Mar 2018 23:08:46 (#8 of 660)

Stabbed them, I think. Or tore limb from limb with his bare hands. I forget. It's been so long since the last thread.

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Cartimandua - 10 Mar 2018 23:14:29 (#10 of 660)

He said some nasty stuff but he saved us from Nazi Germany. Between that and a politician saying nasty stuff, I think I know what I prefer.

Macpaddy - 10 Mar 2018 23:34:22 (#11 of 660)

But it can be agreed by all that he was an utter cunt.

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invicta - 10 Mar 2018 23:39:36 (#13 of 660)

That'll teach him.

Interesting how these lies about the Bengal famine are being perpetuated in progressive circles, too.

popstar7 - 10 Mar 2018 23:40:58 (#14 of 660)

If you're going up against Nazi Germany you need an utter cunt in the team. A Stuart Pearce type, not afraid to get stuck in.

Macpaddy - 10 Mar 2018 23:44:27 (#15 of 660)

With a school atlas to draw up invasion plans on?

solomongursky - 11 Mar 2018 00:11:55 (#16 of 660)

If you think Churchill was racist wait til you hear about Hitler!

Macpaddy - 11 Mar 2018 00:13:00 (#17 of 660)

No, not Adolf? Tell me you're lying.

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Jacob_Richter - 11 Mar 2018 00:18:19 (#19 of 660)

Interesting how these lies about the Bengal famine are being perpetuated in progressive circles, too.

Which 'lies' are these?

Jacob_Richter - 11 Mar 2018 00:20:18 (#20 of 660)

Winston Churchill: war criminal, racist, terrorist?

Yes - all of those.

One of the most bizarre creations of the Churchill 'fan' industry was that he loved 'the Jews' when, in fact, he was a massive antisemite.

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