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Started by TRaney on Jan 31, 2019 10:39:15 AM
Oddballs, eccentrics, losers and freaks

Thread to post biographies of strange characters.

popstar7 - 31 Jan 2019 10:51:05 (#1 of 73)

A chat thread for UK News regulars. Very thoughtful.

TRaney - 31 Jan 2019 10:51:46 (#2 of 73)

"It would be easier to feel more sympathy for Williamson if, after the war, he had admitted that he had been wrong. But in 1969 when interviewed by Roy Plomley on Desert Island Discs, he said merely that he had not then been wise enough to know that ‘a man of tremendous artistic feeling should never be in charge of a nation’. The nearest he came to acknowledging Nazi crime was when he remarked that Hitler had been a perfectionist ‘and once you begin to force perfectionism on other people you become the devil’."

Agaliarept - 31 Jan 2019 11:00:45 (#3 of 73)

I just found out the 17th Earl of Oxford went into self imposed exile for 7 years for accidentally farting in front of the queen.

Does that count?

his Earl of Oxford, making of his low obeisance to Queen Elizabeth, happened to let a Fart, at which he was so abashed and ashamed that he went to Travel [for] 7 years. On his return the Queen welcomed him home, and said, 'My Lord, I had forgot the Fart'.,_17th

FrankieTeardrop - 31 Jan 2019 11:04:49 (#4 of 73)

I think TRaney was more hoping for a list of people who are experts in What The Jews Have Done Wrong.

Although, I could be wrong.

TRaney - 31 Jan 2019 11:06:36 (#5 of 73)

No, no, anyone and everyone welcome. That’s why I set up a separate thread. While I’m focused on Nazi apologists at the moment it’s not limited to that.

FrankieTeardrop - 31 Jan 2019 11:07:37 (#6 of 73)

Thanks for the clarification, and best wishes in any case.

Arjuna - 31 Jan 2019 11:13:09 (#7 of 73)

at which he was so abashed and ashamed that he went to Travel [for] 7 years.

Is that when he was writing Shakespeare's plays?

Agaliarept - 31 Jan 2019 11:14:37 (#8 of 73)

doo doo doo do, doo doo doo do

<Twilight Zone theme>

mingmong - 31 Jan 2019 11:25:31 (#9 of 73)

This is the kind fella we're looking for:

Took after his dad, it would seem:

"The elder Price suffered from an undiagnosed mental illness, acting erratically and experiencing fits of violent rage. He bathed either fully clothed or naked in local ponds, and collected snakes in his pockets for days at a time. Carrying a saw around, he removed bark from trees, then burning it while muttering certain words, also spitting onto stones, believing that it improved their value. His actions led to him becoming a threat to the local community, in one instance firing a gun at a woman whom he claimed was taking sticks from his hedgerow, and in another hurling a sharp implement at another man."

mingmong - 31 Jan 2019 11:29:26 (#10 of 73)

On the man himself:

"He began developing an appearance that was unconventional at the time, for instance wearing a fox fur hat and emerald green clothing, as well as growing his beard long and not cutting his hair. He also began attempting to hold Druidic events, organising an eisteddfod at Pontypridd in 1844, but nobody turned up, and so, solitarily, he initiated his daughter as a bard at the event. In 1855 he then led a parade of the Ivorites, a friendly society that held to a philosophy of Welsh nationalism, through the streets of Merthyr Tydfil, accompanied by a half-naked man calling himself Myrddin (the Welsh name for Merlin) and a goat."

Arjuna - 31 Jan 2019 11:42:39 (#11 of 73)

Wilkins debuted his theories of how the moon and its possible present and future inhabitants could interact in his 1638 book Discovery of a New World; or, A Discourse tending to Prove that ‘tis probable there may be another habitable World in the Moon. Science historian Dr. Allen Chapman wrote that he might have been trying to gain funding to test his ideas from this literature, which reads a little bit like a proposal to investors. In his writings, Wilkins describes an open, wheeled chariot with a vertical rotating sail sprouting from the backrest. If this chariot could lift a few men, they could pop on over to the Moon, where they would glide to a land on the same wheels that gave them their running, earthly start.

You cannot fault his ambition

ChankNolen - 31 Jan 2019 20:53:35 (#12 of 73)

This guy was a legend in my grandma's home town.

My great aunt used to clean for him and confirmed all the famous stories (the four tellies tuned to different channels etc) but also that he used to toss himself off in front of her from time to time.

Arjuna - 31 Jan 2019 21:09:08 (#13 of 73)

feel free to add that to his wikipedia entry

brooklyn - 31 Jan 2019 21:17:40 (#14 of 73)

I assume it's common knowledge how weird Newton was?

of course, he did have some success in his work.

Tadagee - 31 Jan 2019 21:19:14 (#15 of 73)

Emperor Norton. As lovingly immortalised by (among others) Mark Twain and by Neil Gaiman in Sandman

Arjuna - 31 Jan 2019 21:34:51 (#16 of 73)

As Alasdair Wilkins noted in io9, the reason that everyone knows the name of Newton and not Leibniz or Hooke may simply be because he outlived them.

that's complete bollocks, he would have still written the Principia, arguably the most important scientific tract in history. Hooke wanted credit for vague ideas, claiming he had thought of the inverse square gravitational law, Newton insisted the credit should go to those that could offer proof and that has become scientific orthodoxy.

Cavewoman - 31 Jan 2019 21:44:38 (#17 of 73)

I can remember Alan Whicker's interview with the bloke in Chank's #12. Very strange guy.

Pentecost - 31 Jan 2019 21:46:57 (#18 of 73)

credit should go to those that could offer proof and that has become scientific orthodoxy.

Not in maths. It will always be Fermat's conjecture, regardless of whether Wiles proved it. The Riemann hypothesis will always be Riemann's. And nobody "proved" the Big Bang, but it will always be LeMaitre who first proposed the cosmic egg thing, and Fred Hoyle who gave it the name despite trying to disprove it.

cozzer - 31 Jan 2019 21:49:03 (#19 of 73)

s Alasdair Wilkins noted in io9, the reason that everyone knows the name of Newton and not Leibniz or Hooke

Hooke's law is part of the GCSE science syllabus (or at least, it was when I did it)

Arjuna - 31 Jan 2019 21:53:04 (#20 of 73)

Most scientists were complete bitches back then in priority disputes, Hooke and Leibniz were no better. Newton was involved in plenty of disputes simply because he discovered a lot.

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