No smilies, no avatars, no flashing gifs. Just discuss the issues of the day, from last night's telly via football to science or philosophy.
Started by DarthBane on Mar 5, 2021 3:20:26 AM
Mutiny on the Bounty: Who was really to blame?

Would it have been Captain Bligh for being a short tempered, tyrannical Captain? Fletcher Christian and some of the crew for not wanting to leave the tropical paradise of Tahiti and all the female booty behind? The British admiralty for assigning such a small ship to gather breadfruit, leading to such horribly overcrowded conditions?

Peacock - 24 Mar 2021 15:45:53 (#1 of 62)

a pox on all their houses

HouseOfLametta - 24 Mar 2021 15:46:52 (#2 of 62)

Yeah. Nobody likes dessicated coconut.

DarthBane - 24 Mar 2021 18:50:20 (#3 of 62)

I think it was all the Tahitian booty which drove the sailors more than anything else, but I might be wrong.

solomongursky - 24 Mar 2021 18:50:56 (#4 of 62)


DarthBane - 24 Mar 2021 18:54:12 (#5 of 62)

If the mutiny hadn’t happened, there wouldn’t be the final little British colony in the Pacific today.

solomongursky - 24 Mar 2021 18:57:52 (#6 of 62)

It all went to shit later:

13 mutineers got murdered.

machiavelli - 24 Mar 2021 19:03:19 (#7 of 62)

The Islands' administrative headquarters are situated in Auckland New Zealand, 5310km (3300 miles) away

And the Scots complain that Westminster is remote.

DarthBane - 24 Mar 2021 19:19:50 (#8 of 62)

That sex assault trial had to do with a long standing island culture of having sex with girls once they hit puberty. It was crap that went all the way back to their Polynesian roots. Not defending or justifying it, it was absolutely wrong, just saying that’s how it was there for generations.

Snarlygog - 27 Mar 2021 17:59:03 (#9 of 62)

Loads of the crew went with Bligh on his boat trip. Christian comes across as a dick and shit stirrer.

InternationalVicar - 27 Mar 2021 18:00:35 (#10 of 62)

And what a trip it was. Must have had something going for them.

DarthBane - 28 Mar 2021 21:17:52 (#11 of 62)

Most of the crew who went with Bligh, not necessarily because they loved him, but out of a very real fear of being strung up for mutiny. There wasn’t enough room on the launch for all the men who wanted to leave.

Dementor - 28 Mar 2021 21:58:12 (#12 of 62)

I read that the ship being too small meant Bligh couldn’t keep the usual social distance between Royal Navy Captain and Crew, so the discipline went to shite.

Even now, Captains don’t routinely eat in the Ward Room with other officers.

DarthBane - 28 Mar 2021 23:38:15 (#13 of 62)

I wouldn’t doubt that was part of it. I think that the lack OS space created a intense pressure gasket more than the social distancing. It flared up a lot of tempers, Bligh’s included, and the whole ship ended up becoming a powder keg. No doubt the easy, carefree, tropical paradise existence the men lived on Tahiti played a part in the discipline as well.

cozzer - 28 Mar 2021 23:39:05 (#14 of 62)

Bligh couldn’t keep the usual social distance between Royal Navy Captain and Crew

Did they all catch COVID?

DesEsseintes - 28 Mar 2021 23:44:09 (#15 of 62)

People rebel. I don't think blame comes into it.

solomongursky - 29 Mar 2021 09:03:45 (#16 of 62)

Prior to the mutiny, Bounty had only two deaths. One seaman died of scurvy (not keelhauling), and the ship's surgeon apparently died of alcohol poisoning, not as a result of abuse by Bligh.

Charles Laughton played Bligh and he was quite sympathetic apart from when he did the keel hauling. The Anthony Hopkins' Bligh is supposed to be more accurate, I've not seen it.

DonkeyOT - 08 May 2021 12:17:17 (#17 of 62)

Didn't Christian have an uncle who was an Admiral?

Tinymcsmithy - 08 May 2021 12:22:13 (#18 of 62)


DonkeyOT - 08 May 2021 12:51:55 (#19 of 62)

Admiral Corbyn?

TheValkyrie - 15 May 2021 15:23:21 (#20 of 62)

Damn it Donkey. You stole my bit.

Check Subscriptions
Home » History