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Started by freedutchman on Feb 8, 2017 10:31:28 AM
Thread to discuss the global effects of the projected population growth.

World population projected to reach 9.7 billion by 2050

India expected to become the largest country in population size, surpassing China around 2022, while Nigeria could surpass the United States by 2050

http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/news/populat
ion/2015-report.html

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Agaliarept - 08 Feb 2017 10:32:26 (#1 of 79)

Maor wars for resources! Bitter territory disputes ahead.

Can't we all just get along?

freedutchman - 08 Feb 2017 10:37:47 (#2 of 79)

Here are some simple questions you may ask yourself?

1) Why is Donald T. ordering the construction of another "Great Wall" to keep the Mexicans out, when the root cause of most illegal immigration is out of control population growth in underdeveloped countries?

2) Why has Vladimir P. been grabbing land for the past 2 decades, when his Russian population is dwindling and he already has to defend the largest land mass on Planet Earth?

3) Why are our socalled leaders in the Free West spending so much time on national issues and are hardly paying attention to the disastrous effects of out of control global population growth?

;-)

thisonehasalittlehat - 08 Feb 2017 10:41:26 (#3 of 79)

2) Why has Vladimir P. been grabbing land for the past 2 decades, when his Russian population is already dwindling and he already has to defend the largest land mass on Planet Earth?

Russia is principally vulnerable to a land assault from across Europe; that's why they have tended historically to gobble up neighbouring territories. They're not really vulnerable from the east, because, you know, the snow.

freedutchman - 08 Feb 2017 10:48:03 (#4 of 79)

Mmmmmm.....that is all fine and dandy when you look at recent European & Russian history, but shouldn't the Kremlin be more worried today about the projected population growth in Asia and the Middle East?

;-)

thisonehasalittlehat - 08 Feb 2017 10:48:26 (#5 of 79)

No because of the snow.

zardoz - 08 Feb 2017 10:49:38 (#6 of 79)

Its definitely a risk at the moment. Why, those Belgians are enviously looking at the Black Sea ports even as we speak. Its no wonder Putin is concerned.

freedutchman - 08 Feb 2017 10:50:40 (#7 of 79)

Yup, snow killed the Mammoths too....lol

;-)

freedutchman - 08 Feb 2017 10:54:17 (#8 of 79)

The image of China in Russia in the Post-Soviet period.

https://books.google.nl/books?id=ngSHDAAAQBAJ&
pg=PA141&lpg=PA141&dq=Russia's+border+r
egions+with+Asia&source=bl&ots=-mHnG1TN7a&sig=A6BH3hB95FJU5i8pJ5h5-Iy79v4&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjY9KW2qoD
SAhXGPxoKHdhsBtQQ6AEIXDAJ#v=onepage&q=Russia
9;s%20border%20regions%20with%20Asia&f=false


Better read it....now snow effects...lol

;-)

freedutchman - 08 Feb 2017 11:00:12 (#9 of 79)

Here is another question for those interested in this major issue.

Does Population Growth Impact Climate Change?

Does the rate at which people are reproducing need to be controlled to save the environment?

...............................................

According to the Worldwatch Institute, a nonprofit environmental think tank, the overriding challenges facing our global civilization are to curtail climate change and slow population growth. “Success on these two fronts would make other challenges, such as reversing the deforestation of Earth, stabilizing water tables, and protecting plant and animal diversity, much more manageable,” reports the group.

“If we cannot stabilize climate and we cannot stabilize population, there is not an ecosystem on Earth that we can save.”

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/populat
ion-growth-climate-change/


Now that is a bit scary, isn't it and by the way, what will Global Warming do to the snow...lol?

;-)

SinnerBoy - 08 Feb 2017 18:50:14 (#10 of 79)

Because of the snow?

It didn't stop the Soviets from taking the Japanese in in Manchuria.

Or the Germans, from Crimea to Leningrad.

Verdigris - 08 Feb 2017 19:15:41 (#11 of 79)

Why are our socalled leaders in the Free West spending so much time on national issues and are hardly paying attention to the disastrous effects of out of control global population growth?



I know that one! It is our economic system that is predicated on permanent growth. Permanent growth requires breeding new economic units. Trouble is we live on a rapidly heating planet of finite resources.

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thisonehasalittlehat - 08 Feb 2017 20:04:41 (#13 of 79)

I think we will find to our cost that the ecology is a self regulating system.

freedutchman - 08 Feb 2017 20:20:40 (#14 of 79)

IMHO the economic growth & technical innovation model has given most of us in the Free West many benefits in the past, like a higher standard of living, longer life expectancy, social security, improved health care, global mobility etc.

But maybe we need another economic model now, not based upon continous economic growth but on sustainable human activities?

;-)

thisonehasalittlehat - 08 Feb 2017 20:21:36 (#15 of 79)

You mean we should nuke china?

freedutchman - 08 Feb 2017 20:30:08 (#16 of 79)

"Nuke China" sounds like a typical Donald T. executive order to me...lol

"Sustainable" means something like not at the expense of the natural resources of Planet Earth, without polluting the air which we breath and the water which we drink, producing food in such a natural way that we don't need pesticides, hormones & antibiotics etc.

Because the writing is already on the wall, we will probably need to slow down population growth in "underdeveloped countries" immediately.

I still hope this can be done the "modified Chinese way", i.e. by a "two kids max. per family" law.

Otherwise we will see starvation of babies, kids & adults in Africa, the ME, Asia, Latin America etc. and displacement of tens of millions of desperate human beings on a scale as never seen before together with bloody wars between "tribes" just to get access to food & water.

;-)

Verdigris - 08 Feb 2017 20:45:18 (#17 of 79)

I "still hope this can be done the "modified Chinese way, i.e. by a "two kids max. per family law".



Education is the best contraceptive. Trouble is, the short-sighted, right-wing, racist yahoos who rule the roost think spending money helping darkies is a waste.

freedutchman - 08 Feb 2017 20:50:08 (#18 of 79)

Well....highschool education for all teenagers resulted in approx. 63 million Americans voting for Donald T. as their new leader.

Not a very encouraging prospect for me!

;-)

freedutchman - 08 Feb 2017 21:06:07 (#19 of 79)

What strikes me as very peculiar by the way, is the "power" of fake news, together with the "major effects" of leaks resulting from hacking or whistleblowing.

It seems to me that we have entered a complete new age of politics by "fiction & faction creation" which seems to be a complete game changer.

Also the use of the social media (Who predicted the socalled most powerful leader in the world, would prefer to daily communicate with his supporters by using Twitter?) is making the mainstream media look less and less relevant.

Maybe we are even witnessing the end of "political science" as "alternative facts" are now being used to deny the real facts.

Let us face it: Global Warming is being called a hoax and my bet is Out of Control Population Growth will be called a fairytale pretty soon too by the usual suspects.

;-)

freedutchman - 09 Feb 2017 21:04:17 (#20 of 79)

Hundreds of thousands face starvation and death in Africa in the growing crisis no one is talking about

'As we enter 2017, over 37 million people across Africa are without food,' warns International Development Secretary Priti Patel

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/afr
ica-drought-starvation-crisis-international-aid-zimbabwe-malawi-madagascar-horn-of-africa-a7493221.html


Are we all becoming complacent about these horrible facts nowadays?

;-)

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