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Started by bossab2 on May 14, 2019 5:47:03 PM
Donald Trump declares war on Iran

Probably not such a pushover as Bush's war on Iraq.

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bossab2 - 14 May 2019 17:49:38 (#1 of 54)

So who's been trying to sink foreign oil tankers then?

https://www.rt.com/news/459253-footage-extent-damage-tankers/

Agaliarept - 14 May 2019 17:55:02 (#2 of 54)

Donald Trump declares war on Iran

Has he actually? Because I just shat myself

bossab2 - 14 May 2019 17:59:19 (#3 of 54)

His Armada is on its way...

The BBC seems to have been rather ignoring the military movements .

bossab2 - 14 May 2019 18:04:51 (#4 of 54)

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/0
5/13/donald-trump-threatens-iran-after-oil-tankers-sabotaged-persian-gulf/1191755001/


"They aren't going to be happy"

Said the psychopath...

GrrrIbdis - 14 May 2019 18:12:25 (#5 of 54)

Yesterday, Craig Murray suggested that the 'sabotage' was very likely an American initiative to provide a case for war, now that their carriers and ships are in place. Today, it's impossible to find Craig Murray's blogs on the net.

Garden - 14 May 2019 18:15:07 (#6 of 54)

That's been his plan. I'm not sure it's the best strategy with his base, kind of admitting he's not the magician he sold himself as being.

bossab2 - 14 May 2019 18:15:56 (#7 of 54)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48264499

Buried away on the Beebs website.

Iran pointing finger at Israel.

Obviously any of the players could have blown a much bigger hole in a ship.

machiavelli - 14 May 2019 18:20:30 (#8 of 54)

Sounds like the Gulf of Tonkin all over again.

bossab2 - 14 May 2019 18:22:17 (#9 of 54)

https://images.app.goo.gl/BaDd3pSdbuyNN3rd6

An explosive charge leaves a bigger hole (Cole)

machiavelli - 14 May 2019 18:26:01 (#10 of 54)

Iran might be leaving a few presents around as a shot across the bows. But Bolton has always wanted a scrap with Iran so it doesn't really matter who did it.

GrrrIbdis - 14 May 2019 18:48:20 (#11 of 54)

Iran says it wasn't them and calls the idea a lot of nonsense. Which, frankly, it seems is true, since they are not the ones looking for a fight far from home t a time of their choosing!

bossab2 - 14 May 2019 19:20:52 (#12 of 54)

Trump doesn't seem bothered about getting UN resolutions.

Jacob_Richter - 14 May 2019 19:27:22 (#13 of 54)

The idea that Iran is picking a fight with the USA and its Gulf allies is nonsense.

bossab2 - 14 May 2019 19:28:34 (#14 of 54)

The Spanish are keeping out of it

https://www.rt.com/news/459292-spanish-navy-iran-us-strike/

Israel - 14 May 2019 20:55:16 (#15 of 54)

So who's been trying to sink foreign oil tankers then?

Do you really need to ask?

Iranian lawmaker blames 'Israeli mischief' for tanker attacks off UAE coast

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-oil-emirates-tanker/iranian-lawmaker-blames-israeli-mischief-for-tanker-attacks-off-uae-coast-idUSKCN1SK0RY

YorenInTheNorth - 14 May 2019 21:16:38 (#16 of 54)

Well Iran has form for menacing the shipping lanes and her Government is not unified.

The Revolutionary Guards are a law unto themselves and can be pig headed aggressive.

However they can't be dumb enough to challenge US interests head on can they? They are winning in Syria/Iraq and have a chance to divide the US from the EU.

Aggression now throws those gains away.

YorenInTheNorth - 14 May 2019 21:17:38 (#17 of 54)

I can see Trump welcoming a short campaign against Iran though it will be a disaster for all involved.

sugarsnappeas - 14 May 2019 21:54:49 (#18 of 54)

Iran has gotten away with terrorist attacks and assassinations for decades, the latter especially in Europe:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46029981

Why -wouldn't- they keep up these types of tactics?

brooklyn - 14 May 2019 21:57:12 (#19 of 54)

why couldn't they sink anything?

sugarsnappeas - 14 May 2019 21:57:58 (#20 of 54)

Incompetence? their bark is often far larger than their bite. I wish I had a dollar for every time they threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz.

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