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Started by Phokus on Sep 18, 2019 11:28:43 PM
Greta Thunberg - she is 16. What the fuck does she know?

Um - Is this for real? Is it us or is it a natural cycle (of the sun).

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AlanII - 18 Sep 2019 23:32:56 (#1 of 364)

You could always step up to the plate.

HouseOfLametta - 18 Sep 2019 23:34:16 (#2 of 364)

Or off it.

Tomnoddy - 18 Sep 2019 23:46:02 (#3 of 364)

Or stick your head on it.

opaz__ - 18 Sep 2019 23:52:39 (#4 of 364)

How dare you mock a disabled child! You piece of human scum

(the Left)

AlanII - 18 Sep 2019 23:54:47 (#5 of 364)

Idiot

(Most everybody)

BasilSeal - 19 Sep 2019 00:37:50 (#6 of 364)

How could a 16 year old possibly have enough life experience to decide who is right out of virtually all the world's scientists, and a bunch of internet fuck knuckles? it's a tough one and no mistake.

WibbleAgain - 19 Sep 2019 00:51:22 (#7 of 364)

she is 16. What the fuck does she know?

That's not the point. The point is all 16-year-olds know they know everything and are always right, and the grown ups are wrong and need to be told. All 16-year-olds feel aggrieved that they are not allowed to decide their own futures for themselves, and the grown ups are the obstacles. The know the grown ups have all the powers in the unverse to right the wrongs and are not using them properly.

She's only saying it like it is. And she should be allowed to say it, because you can't shut up 16-year-olds anyway.

quartus - 19 Sep 2019 00:56:44 (#8 of 364)

Is the gist of the message this: that she's 16 - therefore she's inexperienced - therefore the scientists must be wrong too?

eyeroll

WibbleAgain - 19 Sep 2019 01:12:03 (#9 of 364)

No. That's your lack of logic.

Scientists have said what they have to say about climate change. She doens't make scientific facts different.

In case it's not clear, I'm all for her saying it and the press publishing what she says. She gets a big press because she's 16, so she helps the climate change cause.

16 and inexperienced is great, because at that age you have no fear, are invincible and certainly indefatigable. Let's hope she wins this one.

quartus - 19 Sep 2019 01:42:31 (#10 of 364)

sorry Wibble, I wasn't intending my post to be a reply to yours. More a question in response to the thread header.

WibbleAgain - 19 Sep 2019 03:08:23 (#11 of 364)

Some progress is being made:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/17/un-climate-change-carbon-geoengineering-capture-storage-restoration-forum

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/19/scaling-back-graduate-invents-plastic-alternative-from-fish-waste

Garden - 19 Sep 2019 03:13:53 (#12 of 364)

It doesn't matter what she knows. Politicians are not allowed to ignore children the way they ignore scientists.

brooklyn - 19 Sep 2019 03:14:42 (#13 of 364)

um. I assume that no one is saying that she can't speak (or sail). and no one claims that she is a climate wizard. so: why does this thread exist? is someone afraid that her (scientifically endorsed) ideas are evil?

Garden - 19 Sep 2019 03:32:11 (#14 of 364)

Oh, I don't think so, Brook. I know I'm annoyed with the way these precocious teens are put forward by adults as authentic voices. But I'm a cynic.

brooklyn - 19 Sep 2019 03:42:16 (#15 of 364)

well. I'm 16, so I disagree. if only I could sail, somebody might listen to me.

Garden - 19 Sep 2019 04:11:36 (#16 of 364)

I don't think she sailed. She was a passenger. I doubt they gave her the helm.

coshipi - 19 Sep 2019 05:24:27 (#17 of 364)

Some 16-year-olds have learnt, and understood, more in their 16 years than most adults learn and understand in their entire lives, and I strongly suspect Greta Thunberg is one of them.

That said, obviously she hasn't learnt and understood as much as leading climate scientists - but she doesn't claim to have done, nor does anyone else (well, maybe a few nutcases excepted) claim it on her behalf. She's making, very powerfully, a political statement that politicians should take note of what leading climate scientists are saying, and that this matters to her and her generation a great deal.

coshipi - 19 Sep 2019 05:26:12 (#18 of 364)

Oh, and while she was indeed undoubtedly mainly a passenger on the boat across the Atlantic, she's probably a perfectly competent sailor, and might have taken the helm sometimes, or otherwise crewed. I wouldn't know.

coshipi - 19 Sep 2019 05:29:23 (#19 of 364)

As for

Is this for real? Is it us or is it a natural cycle (of the sun).

it's pretty damn clear that Phokus is one of those adults who have failed to learn or understand very much yet. Sorry to be so blunt, but what else can one say?

bossab2 - 19 Sep 2019 07:01:08 (#20 of 364)

Adults can be pretty dumb.

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