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Started by fjordrage on Jan 3, 2020 7:16:42 AM
A weak confused man's attempt at showing strength?

Does Trump realize what kind of trouble he might have initiated by his recent order to assasinate top Iranian officers in an international airport?

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fjordrage - 03 Jan 2020 07:19:34 (#1 of 499)

Some thoughts regarding this assasination policy.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/ki
lling-soleimani-pushes-the-u-s-and-iran-towards-war/

HouseOfLametta - 03 Jan 2020 07:38:42 (#2 of 499)

It's the only reason I can think of for doing it. To start a war.

bossab2 - 03 Jan 2020 08:04:50 (#3 of 499)

And with Kim ready to start testing ICBMs again.

chacqueschirac - 03 Jan 2020 10:30:03 (#4 of 499)

A weak confused man's attempt at showing strength?



Yes. And the failure of a deluded entourage to let him do it.

nemo75 - 03 Jan 2020 10:31:46 (#5 of 499)

Oh. I thought this was going to be about Chank.

Tagyourit - 03 Jan 2020 10:32:50 (#6 of 499)

hahahahaha!

thePiMan - 03 Jan 2020 10:37:39 (#7 of 499)

Does Trump realize...

Could have stopped right there. The answer is no, because he's a fucking moron.

Tagyourit - 03 Jan 2020 10:44:38 (#8 of 499)

Soleimani was a very bad man and the world is a better place for his absence but this is clearly Trump trying to distract from the empeachment and trying to provoke an escalation in the conflict with Iran to help his election chances. It could well work.

Tagyourit - 03 Jan 2020 10:47:04 (#9 of 499)

Also looking at the pictures are we sure Trump didn't hit George Clooney by mistake?

https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Qasem-Soleimani.jpg?w=800&quality=85

chacqueschirac - 03 Jan 2020 10:55:38 (#10 of 499)

Soleimani was a very bad man and the world is a better place for his absence



Following that logic you'd have to murder quite a lot of our own politicians and pundits.

OldLefty - 03 Jan 2020 10:57:06 (#11 of 499)

Most of the Trump family are very bad (wo)men, but I doubt assassinating them would improve matters.

GyratingTrampoline - 03 Jan 2020 10:59:32 (#12 of 499)

Tag, I don't think you can say "the world is a better place for his absence" unless you are sure that the consequences of his manner of exit will be less bad than his continued presence. For example, if his assassination leads to war, or sets a precedent where powerful nations feel free to assassinate political figures with impunity.

OldLefty - 03 Jan 2020 11:00:26 (#13 of 499)

Assassinating bad people often results in their being replaced by even worse people.

dreams99 - 03 Jan 2020 11:03:03 (#14 of 499)

There's no doubt he's a bad man, and his involvement in Syria has been dastardly and tragic, but overt assassination of generals and politicians is not legitimate foreign policy, and has numerous repercussions. Sulemeini will now be a martyr in Iran, and a focus for further resetment of the US. It sets the seal on Trump's deliberate unwinding of many years of attempted rapprochement with Iran. What chance will the US have of getting any negotiators into Teheran now? And now that the US has done this, is it open season on political assassinations? Iran won't kill Trump, but what about his proxies and allies?

GyratingTrampoline - 03 Jan 2020 11:07:13 (#15 of 499)

Or, Russia / China / India etc will start openly assassinating political figures in other countries, pointing to the precedent.

Jacob_Richter - 03 Jan 2020 11:13:46 (#16 of 499)

1. Sharp analysis from Paul mason - who can be a bit wobbly at times:

https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/121300561
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2. Good analysis here:

https://www.juancole.com/2020/01/trump-troll-impeachment.html with the emphasis upon Trump's domestic issues

and here:

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200103-soleimanis-assassination-americas-declaration-of-war-on-iran/

My first thought was 'what an idiot Trump is'. Iran doesn't need to fire a shot in response in order for what remains of US power in Iraq to evaporate. And then all that blood and treasure will have been for nought.

So, will there be a US backed coup in Iraq to prevent that?

TRaney - 03 Jan 2020 11:15:43 (#17 of 499)

Bismarck was faltering before the FP War?

bignosebignose - 03 Jan 2020 11:15:57 (#18 of 499)

It's almost like it's an election year....

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/trump-accused-obama-of-starting-a-war-with-iran

Jacob_Richter - 03 Jan 2020 11:24:16 (#19 of 499)

Part of Trump's appeal to US voters was that he wouldn't waste American lives in ME wars.

Jacob_Richter - 03 Jan 2020 11:27:32 (#20 of 499)

Foreign oil companies evacuate dozens of employees with US citizenship from Iraq's Basra

https://twitter.com/ahed_english/status/1213040462
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