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Started by phantlers on May 22, 2020 10:04:57 PM
PIA A320 down in Karachi

Pilot reported dual engine failure and the aircraft is reported to have first struck a comms tower and then landed on houses on its emergency approach after an aborted landing.

phantlers - 22 May 2020 22:07:01 (#1 of 14)

Extraordinary cctv video clip showing the crash landing in the distance.

phantlers - 22 May 2020 22:07:47 (#2 of 14)

Between 70 and 100 feared dead.

"At least two passengers are confirmed to have survived the crash."

FleurDuMal - 22 May 2020 22:16:32 (#3 of 14)

Awful. Those poor people.

phantlers - 22 May 2020 22:22:22 (#4 of 14)

The BBC website says there as yet unconfirmed reports of further survivors. There was fire but it was at the end of a flight from Lahore and the fuel load would have been low. The video appears to show it making a shallow approach, nose up and the two confirmed survivors are reported as having been seated near the front of the aircraft.

Frankly amazing when someone walks away from a disaster like that.

freedutchman - 23 May 2020 09:09:48 (#5 of 14)

walks away ??????

Highly unlikely, because of the G-forces on impact, maybe crawling or on a stretcher.

And btw, the A320 is a very reliable aeroplane unlike the Boeing 737 MAX, so PIA needs to answer a few questions.

Pakistan's Airworthiness Authorities will ask for the maintenance records and if both engines failed it could be pilot error, a massive bird strike or most likely: lack of fuel, just to name a few possible causes.


phantlers - 23 May 2020 21:31:00 (#6 of 14)

The survivor in question is reported as having described how he recovered consciousness still belted into his seat and that he had to jump ten feet down to get out of the wreckage, so his own testimony is in some variance with your expert opinion.

tasselhoff - 23 May 2020 21:42:56 (#7 of 14)

IIRC there were two survivors.

phantlers - 23 May 2020 22:14:59 (#8 of 14)

Early reports were that there were at least two survivors.

phantlers - 24 May 2020 01:07:22 (#9 of 14)

Latest is that there are 97 out of 99 on board confirmed to have lost their lives and that there are 2 confirmed survivors. The flight data recorder has been recovered and there are no confirmed fatal casualties on the ground.

freedutchman - 25 May 2020 08:17:08 (#10 of 14)

he recovered consciousness

No surprise he indeed experienced G-forces on impact and lost consciousness.

Glad to hear he survived and escaped from the blazing fire.

It is indeed a miracle.

Now let us wait for the explanation why both engines lost power at the same time which is "statistically" a very rare event.


Snook1 - 25 May 2020 20:52:19 (#11 of 14)

Ran out. of fuel ?

CarlosFandango - 25 May 2020 21:08:16 (#12 of 14)

Seems the most likely, by a very long chalk.

phantlers - 26 May 2020 01:43:10 (#13 of 14)

Yes, I agree. It would be interesting to know what were the weather conditions on the flight, whether it ran into unexpected headwinds for example.

freedutchman - 26 May 2020 11:16:30 (#14 of 14)

Latest news:

Probable cause: Pilot error?

Judging from the damage to the runway, both engines were damaged during the initial failed attempt to land with the landing gear still retracted.

No audio alert in the cockpit?

What about following the required checklist?

Cockpit voice recorder data will tell us what really happened.


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