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Started by Atticus on May 23, 2021 5:07:44 PM
Belarus Seizes Passenger Plane.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/23/bela
rus-diverts-ryanair-plane-to-arrest-blogger-says-opposition?


Belarus accused of ‘abhorrent action’ after Ryanair flight diverted to arrest blogger.

Roman Protasevich wanted for organising last year’s protests against Alexander Lukashenko

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Atticus - 23 May 2021 17:11:28 (#1 of 327)

It's been alleged that a fake bomb hoax was issued to give Belarus the right to divert the plane back to Minsk (despite Vilnius being closer) on safety grounds knowing full well they had no right to get the passenger in question by legal means.

brooklyn - 23 May 2021 17:19:17 (#2 of 327)

the "back to Minsk" may be more polite to Belarus than is warranted. the plane had not flown from Minsk; it was a flight from athens to vilnius.

Shadrack22 - 23 May 2021 17:20:04 (#3 of 327)

When is Lukashenko going to pack it in? He could retire, go on holiday, take up some new hobbies.

Geribaldi - 23 May 2021 20:06:33 (#4 of 327)

Lukashenko is Putin's mini-me, just a dinosaur political corpse from the Soviet times.

When the people finally overthrow the asshole, Putin will invade to protect the "Russian people of Belarus" and claim it was all a US coup.

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SinnerBoy - 23 May 2021 21:35:25 (#6 of 327)

"If aircraft can be forced to the ground … in order to punish the political opponents of tyrants, then journalists here in the UK, politicians anywhere in Europe will find it harder to speak out.”

Well, Mr. Tugendhat, that sort of thing would never happen in Britain, would it? I mean, you couldn't imagine the in-transit boyfriend of a Guardian journalist being arrested and forced to hand over his electronic devices, along with the passwords; with the threat of jail, if he didn't.

Oh no and you're not in any way a massive fucking hypocrite.

Atticus - 23 May 2021 21:35:55 (#7 of 327)

The plane has taken off from Minsk and landed in Vilnius. Several people were not on board at that point. The blogger, his partner and several "Russians" presumed to be Belarus/Russian intelligence officers.

Appaling. I hope the EU grows some balls on this.

HorstVogel - 23 May 2021 21:43:21 (#8 of 327)

remember this: A jet carrying the Bolivian president is on its way home after being forced to land at Vienna airport because of the refusal of some European countries to let it pass through their airspace:



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/03/edwa
rd-snowden-asylum-live

brooklyn - 23 May 2021 21:52:27 (#9 of 327)

not quite the same as being intercepted and arrested, is it?

HorstVogel - 23 May 2021 21:58:47 (#10 of 327)

if Snowden had been aboard, I'm sure he would have been arrested. Of course it was nice that a fighter jet hadn't turned up to escort.



Was the Ryan Air aeroplane actually threatened? I gather it was tricked.

tasselhoff - 23 May 2021 22:00:57 (#11 of 327)

It's exactly the same thing. Except Snowden wasn't on board.

popstar7 - 23 May 2021 22:04:44 (#12 of 327)

I hope the E.U. and U.S. have a plan to deal with this if Russia tries to pull this stunt: lots of international flights cross Siberia.

https://twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/139656856544
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popstar7 - 23 May 2021 22:05:53 (#13 of 327)

Joint call for all flights to, from, and over Belarus to be suspended and for sanctions on the Lukashenko regime from the chairs of the Parliament foreign affairs committees of Ireland, UK, US, Poland, Germany, Czechia, Latvia, Lithuania

https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/139657200
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darkhorse - 23 May 2021 22:29:48 (#14 of 327)

What a bunch of basrards. Weirdly Belarus was banned from Eurovision as their song choice was deemed overly political.

"The next song is our latest release, it's called Shut Your Mouth If You Know What Is Good For You".

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/apr/29/belarus-given-boot-from-eurovision-entering-no-dissent-songs-european-broadcasting-union-head

Atticus - 23 May 2021 23:04:12 (#15 of 327)

It's not the same as Snowden as that plane was forced to land because France and Spain wouldn't let the plane in. If the Austrians intended to arrest him and the denial of access was an attempt to force the plane down to allow that then it's comparable.

tasselhoff - 23 May 2021 23:09:13 (#16 of 327)

In other words European countries acquiesced to US demands to ground a diplomatically protected presidential jet by dint of not allowing it to use their airspace because the US were butthurt over a whistle-blower.

It's worse, frankly. And now seeing Anericans wringing their hands over this shitty little trick makes we want to give their heads a wobble.

JohnIlly - 23 May 2021 23:37:48 (#17 of 327)

Previous incidents are irrelevant. This is a crime and no whataboutery should make any difference. Belarus should be made a pariah state.

popstar7 - 23 May 2021 23:39:16 (#18 of 327)

Ditto. Can't imagine the guy's horror as he realised what was happening.

JohnIlly - 23 May 2021 23:42:33 (#19 of 327)

Lying about a bomb threat is the worst part. Crying wolf about such things is completely obnoxious.

Atticus - 23 May 2021 23:51:04 (#20 of 327)

#16

That's a distinct possibility but I don't see how it's worse. This was a an outright act of piracy on a plane. The blogger has been kidnapped and his partner was seized too.

#17

Exactly.

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