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Started by patmcgatt on Feb 26, 2022 8:18:34 PM
The assassination of heads of states by other states...

..it doesn't seem to be done very often. Is this because it is very difficult to do, or because of international law, code of conduct, blah blah blah. In theory, would it be almost impossible for one nation's special forces to assassinate another's head of state? Obviously, I'm talking about Putin.

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indlovubill - 26 Feb 2022 20:20:45 (#1 of 43)

The assassination of heads of states by other states...

Shouldn't this be in the USA folder?

patmcgatt - 26 Feb 2022 20:22:03 (#2 of 43)

I'm not talking about CIA-led coups, or invasions. I just mean, killing the leader of another country and then leaving them to sort it out.

phantlers - 26 Feb 2022 20:22:07 (#3 of 43)

Naughty Bill.

tasselhoff - 26 Feb 2022 20:25:07 (#4 of 43)

Isn't that what Putin's trying to do in a rather overt operation?

patmcgatt - 26 Feb 2022 20:28:07 (#5 of 43)

But that is exactly what I don't mean! Not an invasion, just sending in your crack FSB/CIA/SAS hitman/men/woman/women and then getting the fuck out. It is NEVER done. Why?

browserbutton - 26 Feb 2022 20:30:03 (#6 of 43)

It seems to happen a lot in the fillums.

patmcgatt - 26 Feb 2022 20:31:03 (#7 of 43)

And never in real life. Why? Difficulty or etiquette?

Dayraven - 26 Feb 2022 20:33:32 (#8 of 43)

High chance of ending up openly at war with the target’s extremely pissed off successor?

patmcgatt - 26 Feb 2022 20:36:44 (#9 of 43)

Only if you get caught or announce it.

patmcgatt - 26 Feb 2022 20:38:50 (#10 of 43)

I'm just interested in why it never happens.

phantlers - 26 Feb 2022 20:43:36 (#11 of 43)

Perhaps it does. If you knew it wouldn't be much of a secret service mission.

tasselhoff - 26 Feb 2022 20:43:57 (#12 of 43)

Etiquette, I would guess. As a head of state authorising this, you've changed the game and put you and other heads of state at risk too.

Arjuna - 26 Feb 2022 20:45:10 (#13 of 43)

Operation Storm-333 (Russian: Шторм-333, romanized: Štorm-333), also known as the Tajbeg Palace Assault, was a covert operation that took place on 27 December 1979, in which Soviet special forces stormed the heavily fortified Tajbeg Palace in Afghanistan and assassinated People's Democratic Party General Secretary Hafizullah Amin. It marked the beginning of what would become the 10-year Soviet-Afghan War.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Storm-333

FGBFGB - 26 Feb 2022 20:49:55 (#14 of 43)

North Korea had a go:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangoon_bombing

patmcgatt - 26 Feb 2022 20:52:55 (#15 of 43)

Operation Storm-333 (Russian: Шторм-333, romanized: Štorm-333), also known as the Tajbeg Palace Assault, was a covert operation that took place on 27 December 1979, in which Soviet special forces stormed the heavily fortified Tajbeg Palace in Afghanistan and assassinated People's Democratic Party General Secretary Hafizullah Amin. It marked the beginning of what would become the 10-year Soviet-Afghan War.

Doesn't count, it was part of an invasion.

tasselhoff - 26 Feb 2022 20:53:17 (#16 of 43)

And, famously, the US tried to off Castro many, many, times.

Sabacious - 26 Feb 2022 20:53:54 (#17 of 43)

The US tried it a few times with Fidel Castro.

Sabacious - 26 Feb 2022 20:54:02 (#18 of 43)

snap!

patmcgatt - 26 Feb 2022 20:54:22 (#19 of 43)

Yeah, you are probably right, Tass.

patmcgatt - 26 Feb 2022 20:55:49 (#20 of 43)

Oh yeah, forgot about Castro. He seems to have been the only one. Looking at Wiki there seems to be hardly any in the last 100 years. A couple of "suspected/alleged" and that's it.

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