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Started by joesvejk on May 11, 2018 9:25:26 PM
What country has the best social services?

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AlanII - 11 May 2018 22:29:33 (#1 of 45)

America... Fuck Yeah.

Did I get it right?

Shadrack22 - 11 May 2018 23:02:14 (#2 of 45)

Saudi Arabia.

frantastic - 11 May 2018 23:16:23 (#3 of 45)

Which country - ffs

Iveseenemgiven - 12 May 2018 00:57:47 (#4 of 45)

It must be Australia.

brooklyn - 12 May 2018 02:13:55 (#5 of 45)

this is all silly, as the answer is so plain. our President says that, "literally" within four weeks, he will announce a plan that will cure our healthcare woes.

so - what country is best? hey: watch our smoke.

DBD333 - 12 May 2018 02:23:05 (#6 of 45)

The Obamacare in Switzerland is hugely impressive.

joesvejk - 12 May 2018 12:37:50 (#7 of 45)

I think France would be highly rated from my experience . There is a whole raft of measures for the homeless and the unemployed. Such as emergency accomation in gymnasiums during the winter months . Free showers in Paris . Restaurants social with dinners for 3 euros . Free lawers. drop in centres where you can get free haircuts and pedicures. Free acess to doctors. Free transport tickets.

joesvejk - 12 May 2018 13:24:46 (#8 of 45)

I am guessing that the Scandanavian countries will be highly rated.

pmcblonde - 12 May 2018 13:26:47 (#9 of 45)

Define ‘social services’

joesvejk - 12 May 2018 13:28:19 (#10 of 45)

Both the state and the NGO'S

pmcblonde - 12 May 2018 13:41:50 (#11 of 45)

Providing/delivering/facilitating what?

It’s a very broad term

joesvejk - 12 May 2018 13:43:21 (#12 of 45)

Housing, food parcels, free medical care, free lawers etc.

Shadrack22 - 12 May 2018 13:51:59 (#13 of 45)

Saudi Arabia - massive education budget, free houses etc.

joesvejk - 12 May 2018 13:53:29 (#14 of 45)

They have very few freedoms.

mememe - 15 May 2018 14:05:10 (#15 of 45)

Housing, food parcels, free medical care, free lawers etc.

Depends what you think the role and purpose of social services is. Those things are good for people who are really in the shit, but are they necessarily getting them out of that shit in a sustainable fashion.

Returning to France, I was unemployed here for a while. The fact I could take my dole as effectively a business grant, and have the income for 18 months or so while I built up my business was a godsend. That's the sort of social service that can really make a difference.

FishPaste - 16 May 2018 08:37:31 (#16 of 45)

How were you employed in France? Were you an employee or self employed?

Don't you have to buy some kind of insurance thingy? I think they call it a Mutual?

mememe - 16 May 2018 08:39:00 (#17 of 45)

I was employed. Mutuelle is for health insurance, but your former employer has to offer you the coverage for something like eight years at a reduced rate. Or you can get basic (medical and dental I think, but not things like opticians) coverage for free from the state.

FishPaste - 16 May 2018 08:42:17 (#18 of 45)

I suppose if you're a contractor it's different and you have to get your own Mutuelle - I think they call that being employed as a CDD?

I've not worked in France.

What happens after the 18 months - do they stop paying you?

mememe - 16 May 2018 08:44:53 (#19 of 45)

Every employer, whether you are CDD (fixed term) or CDI (permanent) has to offer you a mutuelle, if they have more than about five employees. You don't need to take it: there are plenty of mutuelles you can sign up to individually. Or you can be covered by your spouse or partner.

Yes, they stop paying you the big bucks (60% or so of your last salary up to a ceiling). But obviously there are long term benefits. Happily I didn't have to find out about that though.

tasselhoff - 16 May 2018 09:10:42 (#20 of 45)

I had the same experience as mememememe with being able to set up a business while unemployed and earning 60% of my previous salary for nearly 2 years. That's pretty good. Got free shrinks too for those with an alcohol affinity.

And once you're totally broke, healthcare is 100% free. I was on that for a few months. It was a grim situation, but not exacerbated by having to pay for medical stuff.

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