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Started by fenderstrat on Jun 14, 2018 8:49:31 AM
Heh. Religoids live longer than nasty atheists
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fenderstrat - 14 Jun 2018 09:06:06 (#1 of 140)

Six more years if you are in Iowa, as well.

Delighted_User - 14 Jun 2018 09:09:04 (#2 of 140)

No, it just seems that way.

DesEsseintes - 14 Jun 2018 09:11:23 (#3 of 140)

We all live forever, kids.

fenderstrat - 14 Jun 2018 09:28:40 (#4 of 140)

No, it just seems that way.

I flatly deny that.

Delighted_User - 14 Jun 2018 09:31:38 (#5 of 140)

From the article:

The major part of the study used more than 1,000 obituaries from newspapers in 42 states. But a further analysis of 500 obituaries from the Des Moines Register, a paper in Iowa, found the effect was more pronounced and religion was associated with an extra 6.48 years of life, suggesting living in a more religious area might have an extra effect.

Nothing dodgy about that, oh no.

fenderstrat - 14 Jun 2018 09:48:28 (#6 of 140)

Surely you don't dispute the evidence? Blasphemy!

WibbleAgain - 14 Jun 2018 10:01:18 (#7 of 140)

Feeling feisty today, fenders?

fenderstrat - 14 Jun 2018 10:21:58 (#8 of 140)

Me?

frantastic - 14 Jun 2018 10:27:11 (#9 of 140)

Oh, the irony. Those who long to get to heaven have to wait longer than those who don't.

WibbleAgain - 14 Jun 2018 10:27:15 (#10 of 140)

Yes. You.

uranrising - 14 Jun 2018 10:45:51 (#11 of 140)

Maybe it's because the religious have fewer life-problems. That's because their religious beliefs solve quite a few at one fell swoop.

WibbleAgain - 14 Jun 2018 10:57:21 (#12 of 140)

According to the article it could be due to stress-relieving practices, abstaining from bad habits, volunteerism and community support.

What life-problems get solved in one fell swoop by religious belief?

upgoerfive - 14 Jun 2018 11:00:08 (#13 of 140)

What life-problems get solved in one fell swoop by religious belief?



Existential dread?

Timor Mortis Conturbat Me ...

Hilary - 14 Jun 2018 11:01:54 (#14 of 140)

They have more children too. Darwinism is a maladaptive mutation and will soon go extinct.

WibbleAgain - 14 Jun 2018 11:04:16 (#15 of 140)

That's not solved in one fell swoop though. It's very deep in the human psyche and even if you are religious you still have to face it from inside and do constant practices to gradually erode it away. It's always possible to fall from grace, you know. Complacency leads to spiritual pride and that's the deadliest.

upgoerfive - 14 Jun 2018 11:07:34 (#16 of 140)

Still, the religioids can cleave to their belief that they're going to be singing with the angels after they've popped their clogs.

Me, I know Im just going to rot into slime.

uranrising - 14 Jun 2018 11:18:53 (#17 of 140)

What life-problems get solved in one fell swoop by religious belief?

I'm taken aback that you ask, Wibbs. I had assumed greater knowledge of religion.

The religious presumably know why they are here, what they should in life, know there's nothing to fear with God on your side, know what will happen to you after you die and thus wouldn't find death frightening. So as upgoerfive says.

If that's right, then many major causes of stress and worry leave or aren't present. Or shouldn't be if they are sincere in their beliefs.

bailliegillies - 14 Jun 2018 11:22:10 (#18 of 140)

I've no idea if there is a god or not but if there is I doubt s/he, or it will be interested in what church I prostrated myself in but in the life I lead, what I did with it.

OK I made a right mess of it but at least it was of my making and not because someone else told how to live it!

uranrising - 14 Jun 2018 11:23:52 (#19 of 140)

I'm with you there, bailliegillies

WibbleAgain - 14 Jun 2018 11:26:01 (#20 of 140)

The religious presumably know why they are here, what they should in life, know there's nothing to fear with God on your side, know what will happen to you after you die and thus wouldn't find death frightening.

Presumably, is the operative word, and you presume wrong. Not all religious people have that firm conviction. Doubt and uncertainty is very much part of the deal. The bible thumpers and jihadists protest too much, and there's a deeper part of them who is terrified that they may be wrong, or that they're not good enough, etc etc etc.

Deep psychology is a very important part of religious life, which is why all paths/sects/schools advocate constant mindfulness, vigilance, examination of conscience, practice, humility, discipline etc etc etc. It's not easy at all. It's superficially so much easier to give it all up, but that's no answer either.

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