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fenderstrat - 19 Jun 2018 15:38:57 (#1 of 74)

Can this be true?

TheVoiceOfReason - 19 Jun 2018 15:40:38 (#2 of 74)

If they have an EU passport and are working, then they can’t be deported. If they’re not working they can be deported even if they do have an EU passport, as we’ve been extensively reminded on the Brexit threads.

browserbutton - 19 Jun 2018 15:56:58 (#3 of 74)

'those Roma found to have Italian nationality would "unfortunately" be allowed to stay in the country'

A charming sentiment from an alt+right populist there.

Trump 'n' Brexit 'n' Salvini

SheikYerbouti - 19 Jun 2018 16:00:46 (#4 of 74)

Imagine if they deported all the Romans instead. What hijinks.

lusmeri1 - 19 Jun 2018 16:02:44 (#5 of 74)

Mistakes do happen. We can hope.

thisonehasalittlehat - 19 Jun 2018 16:23:44 (#6 of 74)

Isn't roma what Italians call rome?

thisonehasalittlehat - 19 Jun 2018 16:25:27 (#7 of 74)

In Italian it means from Rome apparently.

indlovubill - 19 Jun 2018 16:26:20 (#8 of 74)

Isn't roma what Italians call rome?



Yes, they're selling it to the Americans

mememe - 19 Jun 2018 16:26:45 (#9 of 74)

Terrible things are happening all around the western world, and nobody seems to want to stop them. This isn't going to end well for anyone.

brooklyn - 19 Jun 2018 16:27:14 (#10 of 74)

they're providing new meaning to the term "Arrivederci Roma".

hailesaladdie - 19 Jun 2018 16:34:04 (#11 of 74)

> Terrible things are happening all around the western world, and nobody seems to want to stop them. This isn't going to end well for anyone.

I have the same feeling.

Is it apathy, powerlessness, heads in the sand, bad news overload, endless manipulation of the truth, or all(/none) of the above?

browserbutton - 19 Jun 2018 16:34:34 (#12 of 74)

"When all the Roma have been driven out, the UNICORNO will return to our beautiful Italian motherland."

SheikYerbouti - 19 Jun 2018 16:42:34 (#13 of 74)

Is it apathy, powerlessness, heads in the sand, bad news overload, endless manipulation of the truth, or all(/none) of the above?

Well these things don't happen in a vacuum. You have to ask what has caused large numbers of people right across the west to vote for fascists/megalomaniacs/economic self-sabotage/hopeless marxists.

Bonusy - 19 Jun 2018 16:45:04 (#14 of 74)

Centralised ownership of mass media combined with an increased desire to see how far the owners can take things

SheikYerbouti - 19 Jun 2018 16:46:40 (#15 of 74)

That stuff doesn't help, but I don't buy that people's grievances are all whipped up by the media.

Agaliarept - 19 Jun 2018 16:49:32 (#16 of 74)

You have to ask what has caused large numbers of people right across the west to vote for fascists/megalomaniacs/economic self-sabotage/hopeless marxists.

Our entire capitalist society is based upon making people unhappy so they buy products to alleviate that unhappiness.

It works fine when the economy is doing good but in recessions all you have is unhappy people who can't buy enough shiny stuff to make them happy.

It gets worse when people (think they) see other people having nice new shiny stuff.

Then pols tell the unhappy people those other people are the reason you don't have nice new shiny stuff.

I mean obviously there's more that that but that's part of it.

SheikYerbouti - 19 Jun 2018 16:49:34 (#17 of 74)

Where's the optimism? Where's the idea that our children's lives will be better than ours?

mememe - 19 Jun 2018 16:50:25 (#18 of 74)

The media is just a bogeyman. It's a million things added together.

Agaliarept - 19 Jun 2018 16:50:34 (#19 of 74)

Where's the idea that our children's lives will be better than ours?

Also when your children don't have access to things you enjoyed (free education, affordable housing) you again want someone to blame.

mememe - 19 Jun 2018 16:51:05 (#20 of 74)

Where's the optimism? Where's the idea that our children's lives will be better than ours?

There's one of the biggest causes right there.

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