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Started by Crayola on Nov 22, 2018 1:16:06 PM
Serial killers, true crime, penpals on death row ...

Podcasts, documentaries and whole TV channels. Books and magazines and even online (and sometimes case-solving) discussion groups and communities. Interest in true crime is huge and growing.

Why the fascination? Why is it of particular interest to (usually young) women?

Talk about it here. Or indeed just talk about your favourite murder.

(PS: Burke did it)

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Hornswoggle - 22 Nov 2018 15:01:31 (#1 of 70)

"Why the fascination? Why is it of particular interest to (usually young) women? "

Because they like to imagine that they could redeem the criminal.

Macpaddy - 22 Nov 2018 15:09:15 (#2 of 70)

That's the sort of insight we all like to see.

Is it primarily of interest to young women? I imagined it to be more likely to be men. Or Agatha Christie heroines.



Hornswoggle is such a great word.

dottie30 - 22 Nov 2018 15:12:12 (#3 of 70)

I don't get the death row pen pal thing at all. At least not from women who end up falling for these guys. I understand schemes that get people to write to long term prisoners who may have no other person visiting/writing.

I also don't get the interest in serial killers if I'm honest.

I am interested in crime and do stuff in prisons but it's much more mundane stuff. Probably wouldn't make good TV.

widenation - 22 Nov 2018 15:17:20 (#4 of 70)

There were a couple of oddballs in my A-level law class.

FleurDuMal - 22 Nov 2018 15:34:03 (#5 of 70)

Because they like to imagine that they could redeem the criminal.

It may be something as trite as that.

HouseOfLametta - 22 Nov 2018 15:34:36 (#6 of 70)

What did they taste like?

FrankieTeardrop - 22 Nov 2018 15:44:06 (#7 of 70)

"Hornswoggle is such a great word."

A great name for an Irish boxer.

Intowntonight - 22 Nov 2018 15:53:53 (#8 of 70)

Or the ever fresh "Round the Horn"

ps. they may be seeking material for their first crime novel.

Crayola - 22 Nov 2018 15:56:08 (#9 of 70)

I don't think it's about redeeming them, because often it's an interest in crimes that have no specific 'them' to redeem.

Looking at podcasts in particular. It's believed that podcast listeners are around 56% men. Other than Last Podcast on the Left (which is three blokes) this study by brandwatch shows that women listeners vastly outweigh men for most of them.

https://www.brandwatch.com/blog/react-podcast-audiences/

However the super high scorers are all podcasts presented by women or both genders. I wonder if it then becomes self perpetuating and it's impossible to see which comes first.

sloanepeterson - 22 Nov 2018 16:21:38 (#10 of 70)

I listen to some of the podcasts on that list and I also read r/UnresolvedMysteries when I've run out of internet, I think for two main reasons, first that I'm just generally interested in mysteries and figuring out the answers to things, the same way I like riddles and crosswords and quizzes, and second that, as the author of that piece notes, women fear crime more than men do and I listen in a sort of fascinated "there but for the grace of god" way. I have close to zero interest in the perpetrators, though, I think. I mean, they are mostly all the same.

sloanepeterson - 22 Nov 2018 16:23:28 (#11 of 70)

But it's not purely about self-preservation because the unsolved mystery which may not even be a crime that I find myself most absorbed by is the disappearance of Andrew Gosden, with whom I have nothing in common but I just can't imagine what could possibly have happened to him.

Leftie - 22 Nov 2018 16:24:32 (#12 of 70)

I've never really discussed the death penalty on GU - didn't want to get into an argument with anyone. But I don't agree with it. I don't see how it's the fault of the family what the murderer has done.

I read "Dead Man Walking" and it gave me nightmares.

cozzer - 22 Nov 2018 16:32:34 (#13 of 70)

the disappearance of Andrew Gosden

<googles> Oh, it's him !

Crayola - 22 Nov 2018 16:40:55 (#14 of 70)

I spent the weekend absorbed by the West Memphis Three and yesterday and today by Peter Kurtin, the Dusseldorf Vampire. Neither of these crimes are women specific (Kurtin was very much equal opps and the WM3 was boys). I'm not sure what it is that fascinates me.

I find unsolved crimes frustrating (the WM3 having to do an Alford plea and so the case stopping is infuriating - sorry for spoilers) .

I think GSK being caught was the dream for most muderino types.

Crayola - 22 Nov 2018 16:45:13 (#15 of 70)

This article is interesting.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-young-women-are-the-biggest-true-crime-buffs-2016-3?r=US&IR=T

Suggests it's empathy.

KizzyK - 22 Nov 2018 17:05:18 (#16 of 70)

Must be why I can’t bear them then. Well that and not being ‘young’ maybe. Too much real life hideousness in the world so I can’t for the life of me see why anyone gets enjoyment out of reading about more of it.

FleurDuMal - 22 Nov 2018 17:20:13 (#17 of 70)

Well quite.

nemo75 - 22 Nov 2018 17:21:24 (#18 of 70)

The Casebook Website is good value for Ripper nuts.

Crayola - 22 Nov 2018 18:13:07 (#19 of 70)

I find it really interesting to read and listen to. And my not reading it doesn't make it not happen. Not sure what the antithesis of true crime would be, but if it's romcoms, I'll take John Wayne Gacy any day. And I fucking hate clowns.

Crayola - 22 Nov 2018 18:14:54 (#20 of 70)

sloane do you listen to All Killa no Filla? I think you'd like it. Two British comedians. Less annoying than MFM.

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