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Started by halfnelson on Dec 18, 2018 7:41:18 PM
Casual, blokeish homophobia - how prevalent is it now?

That jeering, backs-to-the-wall mentality that was quite common 25 or 30 years ago - are there still pockets of it about?

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Verdigris - 18 Dec 2018 19:48:16 (#1 of 69)

Dunno, but I noted many of the central Exeter hotels had bands of likely lads all smoking out the front, presumably prior to Christmas Do/David Brent of the Year Awards. I surmised some of them probably hold fairly "traditional" views. Probably more so, later tonight, when they've been out on the lash.

TommyDCMBR8 - 18 Dec 2018 19:53:50 (#2 of 69)

It's still the rule that this place provides an exception to.

mememe - 18 Dec 2018 19:59:50 (#3 of 69)

Honestly I think there's a lot less of it about than there used to be, but I accept that I live in a big city and in an industry where people tend to be less worried about this sort of stuff. I have a good friend at home who is the procurement director of a reasonably well-known UK financial services company, and he was a bit taken aback when I told him quite how little of a deal it is that people are gay in my working environment: I get the feeling things aren't so forward-thinking at his place.

Not, I hasten to add, that they're going round calling people poofs - but it didn't seem somewhere that people would feel able to come out to their colleagues.

thisonehasalittlehat - 18 Dec 2018 20:01:02 (#4 of 69)

Nobody cares if you're gay where I work as far as I can tell. But that is hardly surprising.

FleurDuMal - 18 Dec 2018 20:18:09 (#5 of 69)

Same where I work, but then I work in a less prestigious version of where hattie works.

thisonehasalittlehat - 18 Dec 2018 20:21:58 (#6 of 69)

All kinds of assumptions there.

SheikYerbouti - 18 Dec 2018 20:22:32 (#7 of 69)

10 half heartedly new mannish points for me!

Rendered - 18 Dec 2018 21:28:12 (#8 of 69)

I'm not sure anywhere is less prestigious than a former polytechnic in a dormitory town of the M25.

FleurDuMal - 18 Dec 2018 21:37:00 (#9 of 69)

Have you ever visited Yorkshire?

Rendered - 18 Dec 2018 21:39:19 (#10 of 69)

Never.

Stellata - 18 Dec 2018 22:49:08 (#11 of 69)

Yes. Sadly. I think they think it’s OK because they obviously don’t mean it like that, but I’m not sure what other way they mean it.

Delighted_User - 18 Dec 2018 22:53:30 (#12 of 69)

<picks up points, leaves thread>

YorenInTheNorth - 18 Dec 2018 22:59:02 (#13 of 69)

I don't detect any hostile attitudes in my work but don't know how things are out in the street.

Pixiedust - 18 Dec 2018 23:08:01 (#14 of 69)

Don't know about blokes, but there's a female perspective that was recently in the Gruan:

https://www.theguardian.com/careers/2018/dec/17/i-felt-like-i-had-to-leave-life-as-a-gay-female-tech-ceo

As for me, I was trained up by gay men, who then abandoned me to go on to bigger and better things. I was left to "onboard" my next fucking line manager (I couldn't have the position because I was a part-time slacker).

Cavewoman - 18 Dec 2018 23:13:52 (#15 of 69)

Homophobia's alive and kicking in various expat communities, natch. I lived in Spain for nine years - not on any of the costas but up in the mountains near Granada. There weren't many expats around but those who were felt it was perfectly OK to rip the piss out of a Spanish bloke who came into the village bar wearing a pink T-shirt. Cue comments about shirt-lifters, etc. My son's lived in Bangkok for 15 years and it's pretty grim there, too.

Pixiedust - 18 Dec 2018 23:21:19 (#16 of 69)

Weird.

MrPixie is a roadie, doing lights for touring bands. A very good friend of his has his pick of the ladies because when he is off duty (not having to wear stage blacks) he is a "cock in a frock."

I don't like his dress sense, but other women seem to appreciate it.

Stellata - 18 Dec 2018 23:21:28 (#17 of 69)

Where my mum lives (north east), being gay is still something people whisper and gossip about. I didn’t realise this until I spoke to her recently and was quite shocked by the attitudes there. Although she herself doesn’t have a negative word to say on the subject of homosexuality, she seems to regard it as some kind of novelty and imagines all gay men as variations on Graham Norton.

Pixiedust - 18 Dec 2018 23:24:26 (#18 of 69)

I always thought that PapaPixie woudl be super-reactionary, but one of his best workmates was a) gay, and b) HIV-positive.

PapaPixie took the divorce almost as hard as the previously happy couple.

People can change.

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Pixiedust - 18 Dec 2018 23:25:41 (#20 of 69)

There's a reason he's your ex.

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