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Started by breakfast on Feb 5, 2022 1:16:01 PM
Anti-statism and the trajectory from the Revolutionary Communist Party to Spiked

Although the trajectory from the far left to the right is not an uncommon phenomenon, the shift en masse from the RCP to Spiked via Living Marxism, which kept much of the same leading personnel intact and with few openly breaking with the party/network, is more unique. As Chris Gilligan, a former RCP member, has noted, this network seems to be quite a conscious decision made in the late 1990s

https://hatfulofhistory.wordpress.com/2022/02/05/a
nti-statism-and-the-trajectory-from-the-revolutionary-communist-party-to-spiked/

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darkhorse - 05 Feb 2022 14:55:57 (#1 of 34)

Were they left? Are they hard right?

Who knows. But, the least we know for sure - they are c*nts.

breakfast - 05 Feb 2022 15:02:05 (#2 of 34)

They didn’t sound very appealing when they were the RCP. People like Mirza were too young to be involved in that though - she jumped straight into the Spiked crew.

mingmong - 05 Feb 2022 15:06:08 (#3 of 34)

As far as I can see they enjoyed their cult-like 'revolutionary cell' and radical posturing too much to give it up after they gave up believing in the Marxist stuff. Living Marxism and then Spiked was their way of continuing this little game, while also providing a nice little earner from right wing plutocratic backers (like the Koch brothers) who could rely on them to sow confusion and division in leftish media circles

darkhorse - 05 Feb 2022 15:09:31 (#4 of 34)

How the hell did Claire Fox end up in the House of Lords? Was it some kind of Brexit Party quid pro quo? And maybe...

A political power couple at the heart of Downing Street has been linked with the award of a peerage to Claire Fox, a former communist who has praised the IRA.

Senior Tories claimed that Munira Mirza, the director of policy at No 10, helped to secure Fox’s peerage — an honour that sparked fury from the victims of Irish Republican atrocities, including the 1993 Warrington bombings.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/did-no-10-power-couple-back-peerage-for-ex-communist-claire-fox-lx888hsxc

breakfast - 05 Feb 2022 15:11:46 (#5 of 34)

They’ve had a surprising amount of influence for something springing from a left wing groupsucle. Maybe it was just knowing where to get the money from once they decided to become right wing contrarians. It’s interesting the original lot decided to stick together and make the same ‘journey’.

The continuity thread seems to be the anti-statism that they are all dicks.

breakfast - 05 Feb 2022 15:34:17 (#6 of 34)

(Selected elements of anti-statism that have changed over time).

col2001 - 05 Feb 2022 15:52:15 (#7 of 34)

They certainly seem to have adopted a Masonic concern for each other.

Lawlsie - 05 Feb 2022 16:37:35 (#8 of 34)

Why did these members of the RCP make this journey whereas others such as the WRP, SWP and CPGB didn't?

Shadrack22 - 05 Feb 2022 16:49:20 (#9 of 34)

Self Appointed Libertarian Twonks!

darkhorse - 05 Feb 2022 16:50:45 (#10 of 34)

Good point, we have the existing thread (with that excellent title).

TommyDGNR8 - 05 Feb 2022 16:53:26 (#11 of 34)

I used to really enjoy Living Marxism.

Arjuna - 07 Feb 2022 09:21:06 (#12 of 34)

Why did these members of the RCP make this journey whereas others such as the WRP, SWP and CPGB didn't?

The RCP were always an exception and always contrarian even within far left Peoples Front of Judea circles. Most left wing groups would argue about ideology but unite during demonstrations, strikes etc but the RCP always had a position that everyone else was getting it wrong

Dayraven - 07 Feb 2022 09:31:19 (#13 of 34)

RCP always had a position that everyone else was getting it wrong

And Spiked still seems to have a focus on 'the Left is doing it wrong' articles, more so than other right-wing sources.

Arjuna - 07 Feb 2022 09:59:54 (#14 of 34)

They made their biggest shift in the early nineties when Living Marxism came out, until then they had just been producing inky rags like other far left groups. It coincided with the rise of New Labour who were often their target.

Intowntonight - 07 Feb 2022 11:39:23 (#15 of 34)

and then of course "you've never read Marx".

LemonGrass - 07 Feb 2022 14:00:34 (#16 of 34)

Long article about them in 2000:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/jul/08/davidpa
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lammaMia - 07 Feb 2022 14:10:22 (#17 of 34)

By one of our forum's favourites:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec
/07/us-billionaires-hard-right-britain-spiked-magazine-charles-david-koch-foundation

Gonfaloniere - 08 Feb 2022 09:51:17 (#18 of 34)

And Spiked still seems to have a focus on 'the Left is doing it wrong' articles, more so than other right-wing sources.

That's because 'the Left' is doing it wrong.

Spiked seems to focus on 'the Left's' shift from a class based analysis to an identity based analysis, its disdain for the working class and its lack of concern for free speech - which seems to have had the bizarre consequence that free speech is now seen as a 'Right wing' issue.

LemonGrass - 08 Feb 2022 10:12:43 (#19 of 34)

Define "the Left", and why have you capitalised the word left?

machiavelli - 08 Feb 2022 10:15:54 (#20 of 34)

He's also capitalised "Right".

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