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Started by Walshy on Sep 21, 2012 10:29:08 AM
Dark! Dark! Dar!

The Dark Souls thread. Prepare to die, etc.

meepmeep - 21 Sep 2012 10:34:18 (#1 of 1342)

*Black Phantom meepmeep has invaded your thread*

LittleMissMuffet - 21 Sep 2012 10:39:11 (#2 of 1342)

*Restarts thread in offline mode*

*Sticks two fingers up at Black Phantom meepmeep*

meepmeep - 21 Sep 2012 10:41:44 (#3 of 1342)

Oh the humanity.

Walshy - 21 Sep 2012 10:55:05 (#4 of 1342)

That's one thing. What is humanity? Hollowed mode? Baffled.

womble - 21 Sep 2012 10:56:17 (#5 of 1342)

I've been having a great time playing Farmville.

womble - 21 Sep 2012 11:02:46 (#6 of 1342)

Isn't Farmville brilliant? It's the best game ever! Everything else is just rubbish compared to Farmville!

Ewbles - 21 Sep 2012 11:52:48 (#7 of 1342)


What is humanity? Hollowed mode?

There is probably more to it than I've grasped, but the basics are that you're essentially degenerating into a Hollowed Zombie who keeps coming back from the dead at bonfires. Humanity brings you back to life somewhat.

In story terms, I think that's pretty much it. In gameplay terms, if you 'use' humanity at a bonfire to reverse hollowing, certain things happen: NPCs respond to you more favourably,your chances of finding loot when you kill an opponent increase, certain weapons scale with humanity and get stronger. The loot and weapon scaling get higher with each level of humanity gained.

More importantly, being human opens you up to call NPCs or other players for assistance, but also opens you up to being invaded.

I think there must be more and greater uses of it than that, as you see people crank their humanity up to double figures, which I've never bothered doing. Personally, the most consistently useful thing about it is kindling bonfires for extra flasks.

Incidentally, have you got a bow and a lot of arrows? I'm trying to remember the progression of events, but I think you're pretty near being able to grind yourself a sword that will make life much easier.

meepmeep - 21 Sep 2012 12:00:55 (#8 of 1342)

Humanity is the number at the top left of the screen (which if you're like me will be usually zero). You can lose it in the same way as souls.

The humanity items you sometimes get off corpses are ones you can 'use' to get humanity, it just means you have a store of them you don't lose if you die. Best to leave these until you have a known use for them, as they're rather valuable.

Most humanity comes randomly and rarely from killing enemies and looting their corpses, and the drop rate varies between different enemy types, and can also be increased with some items.

People with double-figure humanity are generally PvPers who have farmed it in the depths for the massive damage bonus it gives at that level.

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SonOfaCyniK - 21 Sep 2012 13:20:26 (#10 of 1342)

I'm still getting mullered by the gargoyles, and I can't seem to get those NPC spectres to help me out. Their markers aren't appearing.

Walshy - 21 Sep 2012 13:37:03 (#11 of 1342)

Ah, cheers all. Humanity = good then.

Yup, I'm bow and arrowed to the hilt Ewbles. Dispense weaponry wisdom!

meepmeep - 21 Sep 2012 14:00:42 (#12 of 1342)

Even if you're not an archer-type (bow damage scales with DEX) they're still essential for luring foes out, either for the purposes of fighting them somewhere more to your advantage, or for taking on a group one at a time.

If you've got to the big red dragon, shoot its tail off from a safe spot under the bridge for a lovely present. Takes a hundred or so arrows at low levels.

Walshy - 21 Sep 2012 14:03:37 (#13 of 1342)

(bow damage scales with DEX)

Ah, good to know. Cheers Meep. Given I'm a hunter, what stats would people recommend I upgrade first?

tasselhoff - 21 Sep 2012 14:06:13 (#14 of 1342)

This all sounds a bit AD&D to me.

meepmeep - 21 Sep 2012 14:09:50 (#15 of 1342)

That entirely depends if you want to focus on ranged damage (which might make certain areas/fights very difficult) or to spread out your skills a little.

For bows, you'll want DEX first and STR second to increase damage (and they're also needed to wield the better bows at all).

It's not like other RPGs where you're tied into a class - your choice at the beginning only defines your starting stats, nothing more. If you start as a hunter and later decide you'd rather be a spellcaster, you can do that. The only thing to avoid is levelling all your stats, because then the game will punish you for being a jack-of-all-trades.

As I've said on the other thread the one stat nobody will ever regret putting points into, particularly early on, is Endurance, as this governs almost every fight you'll get into. It defines how long you can keep your shield up, and Rule #1 of Dark Souls is Always Keep Your Shield Up.

Ewbles - 21 Sep 2012 14:34:09 (#16 of 1342)

Yup, I'm bow and arrowed to the hilt Ewbles. Dispense weaponry wisdom!

Like Meep says, you need to shoot the tail off the Dragon. Once you've beaten the Taurus Demon on the bridge (the plunging attack is handy for that), carry on along the ramparts and through the rooms until you go down a massive ladder. You'll come out at the far end of a bridge. Run like stink along the bridge and keep to the right until you see a flight of stairs going down. If you're lucky you'll make it before the Dragon barbecues everything on the bridge. From there, make your way out onto the underside of the bridge, off the the skeletons, two hand the bow and spend ten minutes shooting the dragons tale. It's a bit of a grind, but it will eventually drop a weapon that will one-hit most of the hollows, undeads, rats etc, and will need only two hits to get rid of some tougher enemies. It'll see you through a good few bosses as well.

Walshy - 21 Sep 2012 14:58:28 (#17 of 1342)

Coo, thanks for that.

My club's at 90, which seems to be one-hitting most of the undeads at the moment though.

Meep, will be END / DEX / STR my way forward then.

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Ewbles - 21 Sep 2012 15:38:06 (#19 of 1342)

I'm in the Demon Ruins now, where Taurus Demons are no longer bosses and instead sprout like weeds all over the place. Boo.

meepmeep - 21 Sep 2012 15:42:45 (#20 of 1342)

Demon Ruins was one of my favourite areas. Lots of quality scrapping to be had, and a couple of excellent bosses.

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