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Started by bossab2 on Sep 30, 2018 6:54:47 PM
Smart Homes - Has anyone been down this road ?

There seems to be more to it than just hooking a device onto the WiFi...

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TrouserFreak - 30 Sep 2018 19:05:50 (#1 of 104)

Got internet heating. It's good.

Dayraven - 30 Sep 2018 19:10:23 (#2 of 104)

Got internet heating.

Powered by flame wars?

flowbagging - 30 Sep 2018 19:36:16 (#3 of 104)

The joys of an internet connected doorbell https://twitter.com/MetroFieldGuide/status/1046411
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deadmanwalking23 - 30 Sep 2018 19:49:09 (#4 of 104)

Dangerous stuff, the Russians will be able to hack into the wifi and defrost your freezer.

carterbrandon - 30 Sep 2018 21:07:22 (#5 of 104)

Worcester Wave thermostat.

Also I use a network camera as an alert for the freezer defrosting. For some reason, the back of the house ring main flips every couple of months in the middle of the night. If I put the camera on a nearby plug, and it stops streaming while I'm away, I know the food has started defrosting.

And when I get the loft converted in a year or two, I will be needing one of those fancy doorbells.

Actually I might get one sooner, as a defence against Brexit-inspired povertystruck housebreakers, what with me not having one of those ineffective doorchains.

flowbagging - 30 Sep 2018 21:16:57 (#6 of 104)

Or window glass that's unbreakable or easily picked locks or ambush predators or ram raiders etc.

carterbrandon - 30 Sep 2018 21:22:01 (#7 of 104)

Hefty double-glazed doors with multi-point locks are already in place. Ever since I saw someone breaking into next door through their equivalent and had five coppers plus dog charging through my house. As with computers, social engineering is a remaining risk.

flowbagging - 30 Sep 2018 22:09:03 (#8 of 104)

If you haven't laminate glass carter, your fucked.

bossab2 - 30 Sep 2018 22:14:08 (#9 of 104)

Do these remote controlled thermostats need an electrician to wire them into the boiler ?

carterbrandon - 30 Sep 2018 22:38:01 (#10 of 104)

They are a simple replacement for your existing thermostat. As far as the boiler is concerned, it just needs to be told when to turn on and when to turn off, and they do that using the same wires as the existing one. All the cleverness is downstream. In the sense that they hold the timings in their own memory, and allow it to be altered via a phone app. And the phone app communicates to them because they exist as devices on your home wi-fi network.

quattrobhoy - 01 Oct 2018 01:19:35 (#11 of 104)

I installed a WiFi Heatmiser thermostat/timer for heat and hot water, six years ago. It's controlling been controlling our 20 year old boiler, ever since, after I modified the wiring and installed the necessary relay. I can determine the temperature and control it from afar - though my Vera Plus smarthome controller tells me the temperature, amongst other information, from a sensor in the lounge.

Next year, we'll be upgrading to a newer combi-boiler. Since I replaced our mains powered smoke detector (which even after 20 years, still detected smoke from sausages) with a Nest, I plan to replace the Heatmiser with a Nest thermostat.

The Vera runs several Philips Hue LED bulbs, which turn on when the light levels drop below a certain level, and go off incrementally, around midnight. There should be further enhancements to this, come next year.

SinnerBoy - 01 Oct 2018 01:26:50 (#12 of 104)

I don't fancy an automated house. There are enough things to go wrong as it is.

Incidentally, there's an advert on Norwegian telly, at the moment. It features a guy with a voice commanded house. He gets up, orders a drink, the fire to come on and then his work diary.

The house reminds him that he's got a dentist's appointment.

He comes back, in the pissing rain and can't get in, because the house can't understand his command to open the door.

nemo75 - 01 Oct 2018 01:31:23 (#13 of 104)

Cool. Then what happened?

flowbagging - 01 Oct 2018 02:02:27 (#14 of 104)

Do you really want this sort of shit? https://twitter.com/idlewildgirl/status/1046513621
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BadgerDancing - 01 Oct 2018 06:49:01 (#15 of 104)

My OH has put all sorts of Hive - connected stuff in the house. I can turn the kettle on from my bedroom, but only if I've filled the bloody thing first, switched it on and then turned it off again via the WiFi plug thingy. As such it's not wildly useful.

bossab2 - 01 Oct 2018 06:51:08 (#16 of 104)

Ah a "Vera Plus"

So there are different brands of "smart home controllers"

Do they all work to the same technical standards ?

SheikYerbouti - 01 Oct 2018 07:11:59 (#17 of 104)

I don't know what any of this stuff is for. My central heating has a thermostat and a timer, my need to unexpectedly warm the place up is marginal, and it's rare that I would forget to turn it off when I went on holiday.

The smartest thing you can do in your house is not fill it with technology landfill, it seems to me.

Delighted_User - 01 Oct 2018 07:38:56 (#18 of 104)

"Incidentally, there's an advert on Norwegian telly"

For what? I assume it's not for smart house systems.

HorstVogel - 01 Oct 2018 07:42:07 (#19 of 104)

I'm with Sheik here. I like turning things on and off, manually, properly.



#18 - I'm intrigued too, I wonder if it's for something totally unrelated, Akvavit or Vodka

Delighted_User - 01 Oct 2018 08:14:47 (#20 of 104)

It's for a supermarket chain with a limited range of products, apparently. Should have guessed.

https://adage.com/creativity/work/rema1000-rema1000-smarthouse/55320

Isn't the internet wonderful?

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