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Started by Verdigris on Dec 28, 2020 10:57:46 PM
The Smart Telly Thread

Well, they're not always all that smart. This is the place to seek advice on getting the best out of your idiot lantern.

Or just vent about manufacturers failing to support features you paid good money for.

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Verdigris - 28 Dec 2020 23:02:36 (#1 of 242)

I've followed the prompt to press the red button and watch some programmes in UHD on i-player. They looked fewer UHD than they did direct from space-telly (Freesat). I have the beta version of i-player, which is supposed to have all the latest experimental gizmos, and have looked through the settings on it but it is showing HD at 1280x720 pixels as the best resolution.

Do I need to download a new version of i-player and how do I go about it on a Samsung telly? There's nothing in the i-player settings to update it.

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carterbrandon - 28 Dec 2020 23:47:43 (#3 of 242)

I Humax everything I can. All4, iPlayer and all that stuff are a bastard to fast-forward / reverse, so are a last resort when I've missed a recording or it's failed. It's like trying to navigate an interface in boxing gloves.

Verdigris - 28 Dec 2020 23:50:55 (#4 of 242)

I switched to the non-beta version of i-player and it has a recent build date but still the same definition. I'll have a look at the i-player version on my Roku stick to see if that is any better.

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Verdigris - 28 Dec 2020 23:58:13 (#7 of 242)

Neither the telly or the Roku are new. What is new is the BBC saying you can get programmes in 4K if you press the red button, except you can't.

JohnIlly - 28 Dec 2020 23:59:11 (#8 of 242)

Do I need to download a new version of i-player and how do I go about it on a Samsung telly?

It tells you that it is updating, as I recall.

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Verdigris - 29 Dec 2020 00:00:26 (#10 of 242)

I have got a 4K TV.

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bossab2 - 29 Dec 2020 00:05:18 (#12 of 242)

I have a £80 dumb telly with a Firestick plugged in the back.

What's not to like.

Verdigris - 29 Dec 2020 00:18:46 (#13 of 242)

Then you're already getting it, I expect.



Broadcast TV is in HD, not UHD. The TV will attempt to upscale the picture but that isn't the same as getting a UHD source, which they imply they are doing via i-player.

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Verdigris - 29 Dec 2020 00:26:40 (#15 of 242)

The only difference I can see between the inbuilt i-player and the Roku one is that the telly one has a colour depth of 24 bits-per-pixel and the Roku is 32 bit-per-pixel. Whatever that means. Although, usually, bigger number mean better. The build date for both is the same.

JohnIlly - 29 Dec 2020 10:32:37 (#16 of 242)

My gripe with the iPlayer on these things is that the Radio option was removed a few years ago and never replaced.

airynothing - 29 Dec 2020 10:48:26 (#17 of 242)

And now no one has the money to make much new anything

Wow. There is so much new stuff being made, it's impossible to keep up. We've just started The Queen's Gambit, which everyone else was raving about months ago, and haven't even looked at, for example, I May Destroy You, or The Crown, or Norman People or Small Axe or many, many others.

QuattroComeAllYeFaithful - 29 Dec 2020 14:26:01 (#18 of 242)

Broadcast TV is generally 8 bit. Some streamed content is 10bit. It still requires a display with the necessary processor to handle the appropriate HDR standard. 12 bit would need a very bright (and expensive) display and Dolby Vision.

https://dgit.com/4k-hdr-guide-51429/

Verdigris - 29 Dec 2020 14:54:29 (#19 of 242)

Some streamed content is 10bit.



So I take that to mean the i-player versions of HDM and Black Narcissus are streamed in 10-bit. I suppose a trawl through the telly tech spec will tell me whether it can usefully display that. Or not.

QuattroComeAllYeFaithful - 29 Dec 2020 15:06:17 (#20 of 242)

You could perhaps peruse this for starters!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2020-06-lut-format-conversion-hdr-video-production

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