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Started by Tinymcsmithy on Oct 20, 2021 6:08:17 AM
Software that was great and did all it needed to just fine, until they messed it up

What it says on the tin.

(If anyone is feeling positive, we could do vice versa also.)

ReverendBlueJeans - 24 Oct 2021 12:00:50 (#58 of 89)

I do try to delay updates but sometimes it just seems to go ahead and do it.

Resistance, as the yanks in CPST say, is fyootle.

levelgaze - 24 Oct 2021 12:03:47 (#59 of 89)

This was a major problem in Universities at the beginning of this academic year - colleagues returning to campus after 12 months working online, switching on their office PCs to prepare for first classes, and Updates rising like the Zombie Army of the Dead to wreak havoc.

thePiMan - 25 Oct 2021 15:23:33 (#60 of 89)

The problem with Windows updates on laptops happening just as people are trying to do something is that most people don't have the laptop on unless they're wanting to do something.

TheExcession - 25 Oct 2021 15:31:13 (#61 of 89)

If you go into Settings->Windows Updates->Advanced Options there's a option 'Restart this device as soon as possible when a restart is required to apply an update'. Set this to 'off'.

You'll have to do it eventually, but it'll be next time you restart. MS took away some control from users regarding when to apply updates, because many didn't apply them at all, leading to millions of unpatched machines worldwide with security vulnerabilities (or just so out of date that other things wouldn't work).

Look the bright side: it reduces the chances of a repeat of that time you had to clean a virus off your aunt's machine when it had Windows XP Service Pack 1 and IE6.

spartak - 25 Oct 2021 15:35:42 (#62 of 89)

Is there a way to get rid of the the bloody ribbon and go back to toolbars and drop down options?

TheExcession - 25 Oct 2021 15:38:33 (#63 of 89)

Nope.

supadjg - 25 Oct 2021 14:51:14 (#64 of 89)

You can go old, old, old school with this:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/windows-file-manager/9p7vbbbc49rb?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

Have not tried it myself though

tasselhoff - 25 Oct 2021 16:01:57 (#65 of 89)

LibreOffice

TauCeti - 25 Oct 2021 15:14:47 (#66 of 89)

I'm using that; slightly annoying that it saves automatically with and .odf extension, unrecognized by some sites so have to save 'em as .doc Same for GIMP image editor which is worse, as I have to export files as JPG to be recognized. ah well.

supadjg - 25 Oct 2021 15:15:11 (#67 of 89)

Here's another I haven't tried, but looks more useful than the first



https://www.explorerxp.com/

tasselhoff - 25 Oct 2021 16:15:43 (#68 of 89)

I always save as docx, for the corporate bods who get a bit sniffy about these things.

TauCeti - 25 Oct 2021 15:28:43 (#69 of 89)

I've noticed.

tasselhoff - 25 Oct 2021 16:30:22 (#70 of 89)

Sparanoia sets in

Gotout - 25 Oct 2021 16:42:45 (#71 of 89)

I thought Win 10 allowed you to control when it installed stuff.

Isn't that only in the Pro version?

tasselhoff - 25 Oct 2021 16:47:46 (#72 of 89)

Oops, possibly. You Home users will get what you're given.

Dementor - 25 Oct 2021 17:08:59 (#73 of 89)

You need Enterprise in get back anything like the old level of control over a Windows OS.

Long Term Servicing Channel is even better, but has other downsides:

https://www.thewindowsclub.com/what-is-windows-10-ltsc-or-long-term-servicing-channel

JohnIlly - 25 Oct 2021 16:10:41 (#74 of 89)

You can certainly "Change active hours" which are the times when it will not restart.

mikeshadow - 25 Oct 2021 17:29:02 (#75 of 89)

You can pause updates for seven days.

FredDee - 25 Oct 2021 18:48:58 (#76 of 89)

to stop Windows installing its own updates seemingly at random :

Get a copy of Windows 10 Pro for a few quid on ebay.

Now I just get messages that updates will occur

when the machine is shut down.

Lento_ - 26 Oct 2021 09:47:54 (#77 of 89)

I have a Mac for work, my main laptop for home is Linux, and I have a cheapo spare Windows laptop for the few things I can't do easily in Linux (my wife's iTunes stuff mainly). The difference between how they handle updates is really stark.

Mac: Takes ages, but I get to choose when it happens and it never seems to break anything. To be fair, this is a company managed laptop, so the IT team have probably absorbed a lot of the pain which might come from updates.

Linux: When I start up it lets me know that updates are available. I can pick and choose which ones I want to install, if I want to, or ignore them entirely. Minor updates can run in the background and don't need a restart. Major updates tend to come fairly rarely, and can be left until I'm ready for them, or not done at all.

Windows: STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING, INSTALL NOW, REBOOT NOW, MORE INSTALLING NOW, REEBOOT AGAIN, HA HA SOME OF YOUR SETTINGS HAVE BEEN REVERTED, NEARLY THERE, PLEASE DONT IGNORE EDGE.

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