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Started by CaptainBlack on Nov 22, 2014 9:44:14 PM
It Was Alright in the 1970s

Mentioned on another thread but deserves its own. Repeated numerous times on C4s offshoot channels.

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MorrisMitchener - 22 Nov 2014 22:07:19 (#1 of 286)

See, an awful lot of this stuff in this show is out of context.

They slagged off poor old Mr Humphries from Are You Being Served cos he's a sexless gay man. Well so is Paul O'Grady - no-one has a go at him. Also, surely Mr Humphries is most viewers favourite character? He's the one who regularly gets the better of the others, he gets all the best lines etc.

Also ambushing poor old Barry Norman over something dodgy he said 4 decades ago is pretty low.

Pinkgum - 22 Nov 2014 22:13:31 (#2 of 286)

I'm not sure the tone is slagging off/ambushing, more of disbelief and wonder at what went on.

I don't think any less of the stars involved, but am astonished by the attitudes on display.

FredDee - 22 Nov 2014 22:15:35 (#3 of 286)

writing a a normosexual, I can see that the contemporary problem with Mr Humphreys is that he is so stereotypically gay in gay=camp=gay terms.

MorrisMitchener - 22 Nov 2014 22:16:50 (#4 of 286)

The Jack Jones song they showed, "You & Me" by Randy Newman, featured this lyric:

"Well have a kid or maybe well rent oneHes got to be straight, we dont want a bent one"

Randy Newman is American.

They don't use the word "bent" as a homophobic slur there. Its just a bit of wordplay.

CaptainBlack - 22 Nov 2014 22:23:43 (#5 of 286)

Randy Newman is no fool either. He knew what he was doing. There was a lot of satire in his songs.

MaisonLazlique - 22 Nov 2014 22:25:34 (#6 of 286)

Randy Newman is not exactly noted for meaning every word he writes. It's almost as if he understands irony.

MorrisMitchener - 22 Nov 2014 22:27:08 (#7 of 286)

Randy Newman used to have to explain that he wasn't serious about hating short people all the time after Short People came out.

Even though theres a verse that more or less states blankly THIS SONG IS A SATIRE ON BIGOTRY - I DON'T HATE SHORT PEOPLE - I'M 5 FOOT 5 FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!

darkhorse - 22 Nov 2014 22:28:32 (#8 of 286)

I used to look up to him until that cruel song about Short People.

CaptainBlack - 22 Nov 2014 22:33:44 (#9 of 286)

Mind you, this Jack Jones one probably wouldn't be welcomed by feminists nowadays. Basically, buck your ideas up if you want to keep your husband:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ7WT02wFOk

MorrisMitchener - 22 Nov 2014 22:34:40 (#10 of 286)

I thought Larry Grayson was brilliant. He got some terrifically risque stuff on the telly.

xDiggy - 22 Nov 2014 22:38:19 (#11 of 286)

My nan used to reckon he was, you know, a bit funny.

xDiggy - 22 Nov 2014 22:40:42 (#12 of 286)

But then, genuine 1985 conversation in our house, watching Elton John's Nikita On TOTP:

Nan: isn't Nikita a mans name? Like Nikita Kruschev?

Me: but it's a woman in the video?

Mum: shut up mum.

MaisonLazlique - 22 Nov 2014 22:46:39 (#13 of 286)

Ok. We get it. It's offensive. You're offended. Well done.

CaptainBlack - 22 Nov 2014 22:46:47 (#14 of 286)

The use of 'chinky' in that Blue Mink song makes you realise where poor old Wigan's Dave Whelan is coming from. My dad always referred to going for a chinese takeaway as a 'chinky'. And as I recall, he actually defended the Chinese takeaway against local thugs who were threatening them (he was a Royal Marine Commando). It was just the language of the time.

MaisonLazlique - 22 Nov 2014 22:47:22 (#15 of 286)

Not you. All the twelve year olds.

MorrisMitchener - 22 Nov 2014 22:51:34 (#16 of 286)

It's a good natured song, Melting Pot. Just has one very dodgy line.

That Curry & Chips looked utterly vile though. Spike Milligan was a genius and all that - but he was pretty racist.

Banana - 22 Nov 2014 22:53:35 (#17 of 286)

The heatwave of 76 eh? It was like going on holiday.

Crap cars that could not be trusted, making the best of things, 8 tracks, gramophones, learning to ride a bike...

Collecting newts.

CaptainBlack - 22 Nov 2014 22:58:31 (#18 of 286)

Thank you. I love 1976 is that way =>

SlasherBindman - 22 Nov 2014 23:00:22 (#19 of 286)

Was Melting Pot the one Alan Partridge sang at the Linton Travel Tavern?

MorrisMitchener - 22 Nov 2014 23:01:30 (#20 of 286)

Yeah, that's the one.

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