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Started by CaptainBlack on Oct 4, 2016 9:27:59 AM

On Sky Atlantic. Will it be the next new Game of Thrones?

BlankChank - 04 Oct 2016 09:31:38 (#1 of 348)

I would really like to see this. The trailers look veh good. Annoyingly, because it is on Atlantic, I can't as Sky continue to hold that back from Virgin Media on the basis that it is not a 'premium' channel and they do not need to offer it to rival platforms.

Anyone with any alternative viewing suggestions? That don't involve breaking the law, obviously.

CaptainBlack - 04 Oct 2016 12:09:50 (#2 of 348)

Now TV will have it if you can stretch to £7 a month.

ThreeFlewOver - 04 Oct 2016 12:30:03 (#3 of 348)

CB - How does NowTV compare with Netflix for quality/range? Might jump ship as Netflix is not much cheaper.

inandout - 04 Oct 2016 12:37:54 (#4 of 348)

NowTV is SKY repackaged as a online only service, £7 is for the Entertainment package, the complete range of SKY channels except Movies and Sport.

ThreeFlewOver - 04 Oct 2016 12:41:41 (#5 of 348)

Thanks - so maybe worth waiting until the whole series is available, and then get a one-month entertainment pass, binge and discard?

inandout - 04 Oct 2016 12:47:07 (#6 of 348)

They don't keep series available for long to try and stop you doing that, 4 weeks seems to be average. It's not really comparable to Netflix, it's not trying to be a boxset library. I buy it for 3 months to watch GoT in the spring then don't bother for the rest of the year.

ThreeFlewOver - 04 Oct 2016 12:48:24 (#7 of 348)

OK, thanks. I'll unsub in the meantime to avoid spoilers.

Rendered - 05 Oct 2016 18:48:39 (#8 of 348)

Who doesn't enjoy Ed Harris and Antony Hopkins hamming it up?

Impressive effects but some dreadful dialogue and quite possibly the worst acting I've ever seen from the English bloke playing one of the management team.

rustygstring - 05 Oct 2016 19:08:52 (#9 of 348)

I'm not sure that the acting was bad, it's just that sometimes the incongruity of an English accent in a quintessentially American setting can be a bit jarring. The expository dialogue could be a problem, though hopefully this was only because it was the first episode and they'll find a way to make the audience ponder the nature of consciousness and reality without resorting to too much of it.

Rendered - 05 Oct 2016 19:10:52 (#10 of 348)

Hopkins was doing sort of English and was fine. It's a while since somebody has stuck out for being quite so spectacularly awful.

rustygstring - 05 Oct 2016 19:14:23 (#11 of 348)

You're right, and Thandie Newton sounded OK too, so maybe he really was awful.

JudgeMentalist - 05 Oct 2016 19:33:49 (#12 of 348)

Hopkins was quite good I thought in the bit where he gently interrogates a Host, but yes there were several 'grimace at the actor' moements. I saw the first episode feeling a bit agin for most of it, but relented toward the end. Afterwards, and I now wish I hadn't gone looking, but a BTLer proposed a hidden plot reveals/easter egg type thing. It's so bang on, but disappointing (to know it) I won't repeat it here. Anyway, I liked the twist on Yul Brynner's character, and will be watching on.

annamadrigal - 05 Oct 2016 22:41:33 (#13 of 348)

I did wonder why Thandie Newton's character has an English accent - more because I don't know if there were a lot of English prostitutes in the Wild West. The manager guy however is just awful and there's no reason why there wouldn't be non-Americans working in a tech company. Perhaps the office politics dialogue is just really stilted? I found Sidse Knudsen a bit awkward too. I'm still going to watch next week, though.

thePiMan - 06 Oct 2016 17:23:14 (#14 of 348)

I liked that The Man In Black turned out to be a guest

thought that was a neat little twist

JudgeMentalist - 07 Oct 2016 11:18:43 (#15 of 348)

Indeed, PiMan.


more because I don't know if there were a lot of English prostitutes in the Wild West

Long time since history lessons and not that I know definitively either, but I'd assume in that expanisionist era, and possibly from too much Deadwood and Hell on Wheels, a fair representation of English (and Irish) people amongst the European colonists in the American Western expansionist era.

Also, I agree with you about Sidse's awkwardBosslady, hardbitten and overdone but she's harbouring a plot arc for later so she can stay. Her curiously accented English subordinate, however...

JudgeMentalist - 07 Oct 2016 11:31:12 (#16 of 348)

Of interest to Iain Banks Culture readers only possibly, I dropped by to say I watched the episode a second time, and appreciated it more, especially somewhere in the middle when Hopkins does a spot of philosophical waxing, and it put me in mind of the following...

Use of Weapons - think it was GCU Grey Matter (could be wrong, I usually refer to it by its other name) which created the tableaus of historical scenes with frozen corpses. In Westworld the managers assemble round a large hologram type affair, those zooming camera shots are quite mesmerising. But it got me thinking. Now consider Hopkins words about mankind being on the cusp of immortality. And electronic Minds capable of recording and watching essentially a Live Action Role Play performance with sentient and semi-sentient actors. </geek>

thePiMan - 07 Oct 2016 21:30:56 (#17 of 348)

Just watched episode two and man it was good.

HBO put it on the internet as Sunday's airing will clash with a presidential debate. I just downloaded it from the usual sources and it was fantastic. Lots of plot development and potential new story arcs. Loving it.

babylonia - 07 Oct 2016 21:43:02 (#18 of 348)

I did wonder why Thandie Newton's character has an English accent - more because I don't know if there were a lot of English prostitutes in the Wild West

English or European prostitutes and courtesans etc existed in the US... what's more interesting and I've not watched Westworld yet is one who is apparently mixed race yet with no explanation of her accent

CaptainBlack - 08 Oct 2016 08:30:15 (#19 of 348)

Surely it's a bit of a moot point when the Dolores model was told to switch her accent off on two occasions.

HouseOfLametta - 08 Oct 2016 08:34:49 (#20 of 348)

The archetype for feisty good time girls is probably Big Nose Kate

She wasn't British, but she was no "native" either. I think the proportion of immigrants on the frontier was extremely high. It's what you emigrated for, and who was going to swap a slice of Vermont for six foot of desert?

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