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Started by xbod72 on Jul 20, 2017 5:11:16 PM
The Mash Report - BBC2's new topical comedy show.

Starting tonight. It has writers from the UK's Onion-like website, The Daily Mash. Please let it be funny.

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WillodeanKnuth - 20 Jul 2017 17:29:49 (#1 of 365)

The Daily Mash is sometimes funny. I think this will need a better hit/miss ratio to be a success on the telly, however

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 17:32:58 (#2 of 365)

I have very rarely gone to the Daily Mash to have a general poke about but the occasions a specific page gets linked to on here have given me some hope that the show could be good.

Therese - 20 Jul 2017 17:41:13 (#3 of 365)

I hope it doesn't try to be even handed like most British telly these days. The Americans are so much better at this than us now.

WillodeanKnuth - 20 Jul 2017 18:11:54 (#4 of 365)

Even handed? American TV? I thought it was all the Liberal consensus making chortling late night newsertainment for their faithful and the furious Fox brigade concocting outrage for theirs!

browserbutton - 20 Jul 2017 18:15:15 (#5 of 365)

I don't like the wooping audiences on those American shows. Sad!

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 18:24:18 (#6 of 365)

Therese wasn't saying US TV is even-handed.

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 18:25:06 (#7 of 365)

While we wait for the comedy, here's a funny video with selected highlights from a computer game in which the physics don't behave as intended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_EqZ82_TPM

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 18:35:23 (#8 of 365)

I hope it doesn't try to be even handed like most British telly these days. The Americans are so much better at this than us now.



I hope so - US satire is so devastating because its hosts have a discrete moral position. UK comedy is so keen to cock a snook at everyone it ends up saying nothing.

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 18:39:43 (#9 of 365)

I wouldn't get your hopes up, it's the BBC. Even-handedness is to be expected. Then again, BBC2 did just finish it's Frankie Boyle show which was primarily anti-right.

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 18:44:40 (#10 of 365)

Frankie's the closest we have to a Bill Maher.

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 21:59:30 (#11 of 365)

The Mash is nigh.

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:03:23 (#12 of 365)

I'm already thinking this would be better without an audience.

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:04:38 (#13 of 365)

And they should be playing it straight rather than with over-exaggerated performances.

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:05:12 (#14 of 365)

I was about to say less overacting from the vox pops.

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:07:15 (#15 of 365)

Oh for a British John Oliver..

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:10:28 (#16 of 365)

Indeed. And his writing team, of course.

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:14:17 (#17 of 365)

The writing's ok, but someone get the cast enrolled in Paul Merton's deadpan bootcamp.

I went, it was very good.

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:14:22 (#18 of 365)

Referencing Last of The Summer Wine in 2017. Cutting edge stuff.

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:16:03 (#19 of 365)

See, the QI bloke talking about Trump is doing it right.

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:16:20 (#20 of 365)

QI elf is good.

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:16:54 (#21 of 365)

Stop reading my thoughts and posting them seconds before me.

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:19:28 (#22 of 365)

:D

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:20:29 (#23 of 365)

Barry Shitpeas!

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:21:33 (#24 of 365)

... actually, sorry, wasn't the same bloke.

Arjuna - 20 Jul 2017 22:22:00 (#25 of 365)

I noticed that resemblance

Only Barry is funny

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:24:01 (#26 of 365)

Isn't this that rape "joke" guy who went under a pseudonym and got hounded out of the industry?

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:24:45 (#27 of 365)

Dapper Laughs?

Arjuna - 20 Jul 2017 22:24:46 (#28 of 365)

Dapper Laughs

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:25:08 (#29 of 365)

I strike again.

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:25:11 (#30 of 365)

Dapper Laughs? Dunno.

Arjuna - 20 Jul 2017 22:25:22 (#31 of 365)

This show is lame

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:25:27 (#32 of 365)

Oh ffs.

TommyDGNR8 - 20 Jul 2017 22:26:02 (#33 of 365)

Oh for a British John Oliver..

He's a Brummie, isn't he?

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:26:50 (#34 of 365)

That was kind of the point..

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:28:12 (#35 of 365)

You don't have to constantly laugh, woman. There's no reason.

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:30:32 (#36 of 365)

More poor acting. Make it sound real, so much funnier.

Arjuna - 20 Jul 2017 22:31:01 (#37 of 365)

That was a pile of shite

Irgalmatlan - 20 Jul 2017 22:32:05 (#38 of 365)

That could have been far worse than it was, and will probably get far better as time goes on if it isn't snuffed out before it has chance.

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:32:51 (#39 of 365)

It shows how difficult it is to write a great one line comedy headline. "Bee says flower was gagging for it" is not a patch on The Day Today's "Eating turkey at Christmas is like nailing an egg to the cross says bishop."

I agree it wasn't awful. The Trump segment with the straight-face was by far the best bit.

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:32:55 (#40 of 365)

There is the nuggets of some decent stuff, but a lot of work to do.

Put Frankie Boyle in the chair, he sounds like he actually gives a shit.

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:33:37 (#41 of 365)

Nish Kumar's voice isn't the most appealing.

TommyDGNR8 - 20 Jul 2017 22:34:01 (#42 of 365)

Much like the website; win some, lose some.

Nish is better than that, though.

Irgalmatlan - 20 Jul 2017 22:35:33 (#43 of 365)

I think he was trying a little too hard, as were some of the others, and as time goes on he'll settle into a more comfortable, relaxed manner that won't be so forced.

Arjuna - 20 Jul 2017 22:36:43 (#44 of 365)

I think you can have win some, lose some on a website - if a piece is shit you can move on - but on TV, bad jokes drag the show down.

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:37:28 (#45 of 365)

US satire is actually our Channel 4 news with gags - the levity is an 'in' for some really serious reporting.

This was ok in places, but shows no signs of filling that role.

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:38:51 (#46 of 365)

Here's a whole list of The Day Today headlines, in the second post. Ignore the third post, I think that guy is horribly trying to make up his own to rival them and fails miserably.

http://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/v
iew/94038/25333221/chris_morris..the_day_today?ts=1
482192060000&pg=last

Ebadlun - 20 Jul 2017 22:43:34 (#47 of 365)

The apex was Fur Q:

"You have to kill people to have respect for people. .. Obviously you can't kill all the people.. They'red be no one left to respect if you did."

"One of the people Fur Q will be doing the killing to is Radio One DJ Mark Goodier!"

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:44:45 (#48 of 365)

< camera flies up Cher's vagina >

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 22:58:00 (#49 of 365)

Doesn't appear to have gone down too well.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/MashReport?src=tren

xbod72 - 20 Jul 2017 23:02:20 (#50 of 365)

Oh, using a different option it fares better.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/mashreport?f=tweets&am
p;vertical=default&src=tren

waxwing - 21 Jul 2017 00:48:43 (#51 of 365)

Third post guy is posting actual Sky News headlines. They aren't as good though.

browserbutton - 21 Jul 2017 07:51:16 (#52 of 365)

Unfortunate timing for launch, just when all the pols are on their hols.

WillodeanKnuth - 21 Jul 2017 09:26:40 (#53 of 365)

Sounds like I didn't miss much. Even less so by not reading the Twitter response.

WillodeanKnuth - 21 Jul 2017 09:28:03 (#54 of 365)

Do people still do that thing where they live Tweet while watching TV shows? Or is that hopelessly uncool since Gogglebox?

WillodeanKnuth - 21 Jul 2017 09:30:06 (#55 of 365)

There used to be a thread along the same lines. Chatting Watching, Listening, or somesuch. All gone now, I suppose.

Arjuna - 21 Jul 2017 09:41:50 (#56 of 365)

It's like so 2014

uranrising - 21 Jul 2017 09:59:23 (#57 of 365)

Not too good.

I think a mistake they were making is to go for jokes far too much and satire far too little.

Some twitterer said they're still trying to capture Not the Nine O'clock News. I think they have a long way to go to catch up with TWTWTW.

Vendor - 21 Jul 2017 10:08:54 (#58 of 365)

The 'special correspondent' bits were supposed to be a bit Daily Show, and I thought they were the bits that worked best. I like Nish Kumar, and think there's the germ of a good show in there. I'll definitely give it another couple of weeks to see if it grows.

ChankNolen - 21 Jul 2017 10:22:11 (#59 of 365)

'TWTWTW'

Well if they were aspiring to make the show Total Wank Total Wank Total Wank, then they succeeded.

Arjuna - 21 Jul 2017 11:01:37 (#60 of 365)

I think a mistake they were making is to go for jokes far too much and satire far too little

The quick fire jokes followed by what sounded like a heavy laughter track was grating.

whitbreadtrophy - 21 Jul 2017 12:45:52 (#61 of 365)

I'll reserve judgement for a few weeks. We don't have any record of the first TW3 and it might have been crap.

Geoff Norcott's gimmick of "Hey I'm a Tory! That's me! A Tory right here in this so-called Alternative Comedy! A Tory!" would be bearable if he wasn't a thoroughly third rate comic. If they wanted to be really cutting edge they'd drag Lee Hurst on who has evolved into a full on UKIP bigot.

Or perhaps not.

moto748 - 21 Jul 2017 13:46:33 (#62 of 365)

TW3 (like Monty Python) was pretty unfunny much of the time.

Haven't seen this, may give it a look if a get round to it.

browserbutton - 21 Jul 2017 13:49:42 (#63 of 365)

I was expecting more full-on SKEWERING of our Tory overlords.

xbod72 - 27 Jul 2017 22:04:38 (#64 of 365)

The audience reaction audio doesn't seem to match the audience reaction visuals.

Verdigris - 27 Jul 2017 22:08:34 (#65 of 365)

I think my chortle count is a bit up on last week.

Arjuna - 27 Jul 2017 22:34:46 (#66 of 365)

that Geoff Norcott is a one trick pony

frantastic - 27 Jul 2017 22:36:54 (#67 of 365)

I laughed. Out loud. Several times. Not keen on QI elf guy. Otherwise 7/10.

LomaxFairchild - 27 Jul 2017 22:43:40 (#68 of 365)

A lot of stuff being recycled from the website. I enjoyed though. The Lib Dem website made me LOL.

sympforthedevil - 27 Jul 2017 23:45:07 (#69 of 365)

Just watched tonight's episode and it was the least funny thing that I've seen in ages. Awful.

Ebadlun - 27 Jul 2017 23:50:06 (#70 of 365)

Loads better than last week, I thought.

darkhorse - 28 Jul 2017 06:01:56 (#71 of 365)

It's funny enough to watch if I happen to be on the sofa at the time it's shown. But I wouldn't schedule a viewing or get it on catch-up.

So MocktheWeekesque in value.

Ebadlun - 28 Jul 2017 06:18:29 (#72 of 365)

Could have done with a trigger warning before the segment about the girl and her 'friend'.

Painful memories there.

Arjuna - 28 Jul 2017 09:37:48 (#73 of 365)

The laughter track seems fake and grates a bit

ChankNolen - 28 Jul 2017 12:27:21 (#74 of 365)

I quite enjoyed it this week, but the social satire works better than the political satire.

meepmeep - 28 Jul 2017 13:35:18 (#75 of 365)

Just saw the first episode, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as I was expecting.

I liked the middle class Megabus man, his thousand-yard stare was perfect.

"Despite my close proximity to the loo I felt certain nobody would defecate on a relatively short journey. How wrong I was."

xbod72 - 03 Aug 2017 22:10:34 (#76 of 365)

This will seem like a silly complaint but I don't like the way they have an on-location reporter who does a piece to camera and then they go back to that same reporter moments later and they're somewhere else.

I know it's just an absurd comedy programme but I feel like you have to try and hold this sort of thing together without needlessly jarring things like that.

xbod72 - 03 Aug 2017 22:20:01 (#77 of 365)

My favourite line, or partial line, of the series perhaps is "the American version of school".

HouseOfLammo - 03 Aug 2017 22:23:31 (#78 of 365)

I don't get it.

The staginess, the audience/laugh track, the awful timing, kills it dead.

The material's fine.

xbod72 - 03 Aug 2017 22:28:03 (#79 of 365)

It's relying too heavily on words like "twat", "wanker" and "tits" for my liking.

HouseOfLammo - 03 Aug 2017 22:29:57 (#80 of 365)

Those are the best bits.

ChankNolen - 03 Aug 2017 22:56:37 (#81 of 365)

23 years since The Day Today first aired.

Just saying.

Ebadlun - 03 Aug 2017 22:57:19 (#82 of 365)

Different thing though, not really satire (except to satirise the news media itself).

Ebadlun - 03 Aug 2017 23:14:47 (#83 of 365)

Enjoying it this week, QI elf doing a good John Hodgman.

xbod72 - 03 Aug 2017 23:16:14 (#84 of 365)

TDT did sometimes do stuff more related to reality, such as Coogan sucking on a helium balloon as an IRA member so that his voice could be broadcast and a lot of Mash stories are not related to world events such as the "bee says flower was begging for it" story. It's not a clean-cut divide.

Ebadlun - 03 Aug 2017 23:36:53 (#85 of 365)

I think it's really found its feet and started to feel like the website.

No really informative John Oliver-type factifying (as they did for a bit last week with Trump's support). I would like to see that more.

I'm preferring John Oliver these days over the Daily Show, even if he does go overboard milking the gags, just because he's really on a mission to inform, and dig dirt on how the US really operates.

champagnerocker - 03 Aug 2017 23:41:20 (#86 of 365)

I have always liked the website. I watched the start of the first episode on iplayer.

The first story was along the lines of "Boris Johnson is a posh moron with daft hair" to which the audience whooped like ... Americans on a talk show. Now although i agree that Boris Johnson is a posh moron with daft hair, its not satirical or humorous to have people repeat this relentlessly in a faux news broadcast style. I skipped to half way into the show to a segment that looked like a piss poor attempt by six formers to imitate The Day Today's "speak your brains" routine.

Then i pressed stop and went to look at some football transfer speculation.

Ebadlun - 03 Aug 2017 23:42:03 (#87 of 365)

The first episode was rocky, it's got a lot better IMO.

frantastic - 04 Aug 2017 00:17:58 (#88 of 365)

The news desk is the best bit(s), the QI guy the worst.

Ebadlun - 04 Aug 2017 00:18:55 (#89 of 365)

No, twitter woman is the worst - the segment as a whole is funny, I just don't like the way she's always on the verge of laughing.

whitbreadtrophy - 04 Aug 2017 08:59:30 (#90 of 365)

Like The Daily Mash, The Mash report's main influence appears to be The Onion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyCtaciiM8Y

Arjuna - 04 Aug 2017 17:20:31 (#91 of 365)

It lacks the subtlety and finese of the onion, all the jokes seem a bit too forced then quickly folloeed by canned laughter.

whitbreadtrophy - 04 Aug 2017 17:28:17 (#92 of 365)

Canned laughter hasn't been used for a couple of decades.

browserbutton - 04 Aug 2017 17:29:47 (#93 of 365)

Does it just sound canned? The audience just sound like they're on tape?

Arjuna - 04 Aug 2017 17:34:00 (#94 of 365)

it sounds decidedly unnatural to me, it always seems like the same laugh after every joke.

roguestate - 04 Aug 2017 17:38:03 (#95 of 365)

she's always on the verge of laughing



That's Kylie Morris reporting from DC on Hairclown's latest disaster.

xbod72 - 04 Aug 2017 17:59:28 (#96 of 365)

I think it's canned too.

browserbutton - 04 Aug 2017 18:02:36 (#97 of 365)

Maybe it's just clumsy editing. I wish all 'whoops' could be edited out. They belong across the Atlantic in Whoop-land, ffs!

Arjuna - 04 Aug 2017 18:20:05 (#98 of 365)

perhaps it is the way the sound is mixed

xbod72 - 04 Aug 2017 18:22:01 (#99 of 365)

My reason for saying so is that they frequently show the back of the first few rows and the audio doesn't seem to match the visuals of that sample of the audience unless first-row-sitters are known to be generally more miserable than gen-pop.

Cordelia - 04 Aug 2017 18:25:32 (#100 of 365)

I'd not watched this before, but just tried to watch last night's episode as a colleague was in it. I got a few minutes in before giving up, fast forwarding to his bit then switching off.

The laughter does feel wrong - way too much for some slightly amusing and laboured jokes.

I shan't bother again.

MorrisMitchener - 07 Aug 2017 00:39:19 (#101 of 365)

Child's Drawing Nowhere Near Good Enough For Expensive New Fridge.

See, when the show is being Daily Mash-y its quite funny. When its just copying The Day Today and The Revolution Will Be Televised its crap.

xbod72 - 17 Aug 2017 22:31:33 (#102 of 365)

That Londoners don't cheerily greet each other and find it alienating when it happens is a timeworn observation and yet I quite enjoyed their rendering of it.

xbod72 - 17 Aug 2017 22:31:55 (#103 of 365)

I must have accidentally missed last week's.

Verdigris - 17 Aug 2017 22:33:04 (#104 of 365)

It was replaced by people showing-off in their pants.

Verdigris - 17 Aug 2017 22:33:38 (#105 of 365)

As was every other programme I wanted to watch for a fortnight.

xbod72 - 17 Aug 2017 22:41:20 (#106 of 365)

Ah! Of course!

MorrisMitchener - 17 Aug 2017 23:52:05 (#107 of 365)

The attacks on Trump were very good. Comedy writers. Possibly the only people in the world enjoying and benifitting from the Trump presidency.

xbod72 - 24 Aug 2017 16:05:48 (#108 of 365)

The Guardian TV festival has kicked off and there's a discussion on satire with Kumar on the panel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnFJtJaOXlk

frantastic - 24 Aug 2017 19:27:30 (#109 of 365)

Is it only on every other week? Or is this another "...except for viewers in Scotland..." moment?

xbod72 - 24 Aug 2017 21:01:37 (#110 of 365)

It's not on down here either. Odd.

frantastic - 25 Aug 2017 00:19:58 (#111 of 365)

Maybe no news worth satirising this week.

Ebadlun - 25 Aug 2017 00:21:04 (#112 of 365)

August would appear to be in inauspicious month to run a political satire show, what with there being no politics.

TRaney - 25 Aug 2017 00:25:10 (#113 of 365)

I watched a couple of episodes i recorded. It seems to have improved slightly. The text in woman is the best. But overall it is too arch, like it lacks the courage of it's convictions. The best American equivalents have a seriousness at the heart of what they do.

Ebadlun - 25 Aug 2017 00:31:54 (#114 of 365)

I agree, those Americans (Maher, Oliver*, Noah*, Colbert, Stewart back in the day), have a real moral purpose.

I think Kumar does too, but it's not quite coming through yet.

Ironically, Mark Thomas and Rory Bremner got themselves furious in the late 90s/early noughties, when, pre-Iraq, there wasn't really that much to complain about.

Merton is resolutely apolitical, Hislop only complains about things that are 'a bit off', not underlying structural inequalities.

* yeah, but he lives there

xbod72 - 05 Jan 2018 23:39:08 (#115 of 365)

What happened to this? It didn't seem like it had a full series. I hope they didn't axe it. A common complaint about modern TV is they just don't give shows (particularly comedy ones) the chance to find their feet these days. This had some promise so they should have let it have a proper run. But maybe they did and I just lost it in the schedules.

carterbrandon - 05 Jan 2018 23:41:26 (#116 of 365)

I could have sworn it was a series split in half like the current Star Trek, but the second half, which I believe was easily due now, seems to have gone into limbo.

carterbrandon - 05 Jan 2018 23:42:34 (#117 of 365)

Googled it. Back on 18th Jan.

MorrisMitchener - 06 Jan 2018 01:19:04 (#118 of 365)

Nish Kumar very good fun on the recent series of Taskmaster so Ive definitely come round to him a bit. Worth watching this, think it has potential.

Ebadlun - 06 Jan 2018 01:56:25 (#119 of 365)

It was definitely starting to find its feet, 4 shows was a ridiculously short run.

whitbreadtrophy - 06 Jan 2018 13:04:39 (#120 of 365)

I agree, those Americans (Maher, Oliver*, Noah*, Colbert, Stewart back in the day), have a real moral purpose.

I liked a lot of it but it was seriously flawed for all the reasons stated. For me the worst aspect was the inclusion of Geoff Norcott. There is perhaps room for a comedian who isn't obviously left/liberal but Norcott is a) not a very good stand-up and b) appears to have an entire schtick which says "Hey look! I'm a Tory comedian. That's right, a Tory voter here in the metropolitan elite world of of modern stand-up!". This would have had some currency 25 years ago but in an age of tax-avoiding Comedy Store veterans appearing in commercials for banks it really is a non-issue.

If they want a properly contrarian viewpoint then maybe they should book someone like Simon Evans (who can do funny) or maybe Bob Mills.

xbod72 - 06 Jan 2018 16:06:19 (#121 of 365)

Googled it. Back on 18th Jan.



Ah, good.

xbod72 - 18 Jan 2018 16:53:34 (#122 of 365)

A reminder that it's back tonight.

xbod72 - 18 Jan 2018 22:29:55 (#123 of 365)

Looking at the theatre of war in that Army advert - are we invading Wales?

Verdigris - 18 Jan 2018 22:31:16 (#124 of 365)

Whales can give you a nasty nip.

Ebadlun - 18 Jan 2018 22:36:54 (#125 of 365)

Serves you right for invading them.

uranrising - 18 Jan 2018 23:01:55 (#126 of 365)

I really enjoy Rachel Parris's character for this programme.

xbod72 - 19 Jan 2018 05:08:19 (#127 of 365)

I'm not sure about it.

browserbutton - 19 Jan 2018 06:37:52 (#128 of 365)

It's not very funny. It doesn't know what it is really.

frantastic - 19 Jan 2018 11:36:01 (#129 of 365)

I laughed a lot but it does need to calm down a bit. Apart from the news readers everyone is trying too hard.

Arjuna - 19 Jan 2018 11:57:14 (#130 of 365)

fair point, sometimes I feel they are pushing the jokes too far.

I didn't see this episode only the clip about 'the man who wanted credit for not being a mysogynist'. I laughed but only because Matt Damon had already made it an actual news story.

was I missing something?

xbod72 - 19 Jan 2018 12:00:28 (#131 of 365)

I'm being unnecessarily unkind, I suppose, but I can't help but feel that Kumar's placing of his head on the desk with face hidden is because he can't fake corpse convincingly.

HouseOfLametta - 19 Jan 2018 12:01:03 (#132 of 365)

It doesnt fucking stop him.

xbod72 - 19 Jan 2018 12:03:14 (#133 of 365)

In English?

HouseOfLametta - 19 Jan 2018 12:05:13 (#134 of 365)

Yes, he is English, you can’t make assumptions like that.

xbod72 - 19 Jan 2018 12:06:23 (#135 of 365)

No, I'm talking about putting

I’d doesnt fucking stop him.



into an English translation for us, you twit.

xbod72 - 19 Jan 2018 12:11:43 (#136 of 365)

Anyway, I note that this series is only six episodes long. I know we don't tend to go for the long series the way the Americans do but I feel that for a programme like this you'd ideally want everyone involved to get into a groove. This lot might get into a groove after six episodes and then they'll be out on their ear for half a year or something and will return cool if at all.

frantastic - 19 Jan 2018 12:12:55 (#137 of 365)

I even laughed at token Tory.

xbod72 - 19 Jan 2018 12:13:35 (#138 of 365)

Token Tory gave me my only genuine laugh out loud with his "torching villages" comment.

Verdigris - 19 Jan 2018 12:15:41 (#139 of 365)

Probably not coincidentally, they had a discussion about right-wing comedy on Today, this morning. The punching up/down argument came into play.

whitbreadtrophy - 19 Jan 2018 12:36:34 (#140 of 365)

There was a lot to enjoy. In particular I thought the Rachel Parris section about sexual harassment was a hoot.

Oddly enough the bits that don't work are the ones which most relate to The Daily Mash. I can imagine laughing at the boyfriend saying the wrong thing on the website but it all seemed a bit leaden when dramatised.

Plus I've no objection to Geoff Norcott being a token Tory, I just don't think he's a good enough comic.

xbod72 - 01 Feb 2018 13:57:41 (#141 of 365)

Anyone interested in John Oliver should listen to this. It does relate to The Mash Report, if off to the side of it.

https://youtu.be/pPvVapVn_mE?list=WL&t=2330

xbod72 - 01 Feb 2018 22:30:37 (#142 of 365)

They should stop cutting to Nish when Parris is doing her bits, unless he's in dialogue with her. Otherwise it looks very much like the Trump clapping himself that they took the piss out of.

Arjuna - 01 Feb 2018 22:38:12 (#143 of 365)

it does go a bit against their self styled image to focus on the male host so much

Arjuna - 01 Feb 2018 22:50:23 (#144 of 365)

I think the main problem is the show isn't topical enough, its mainly broad stroke stuff about Trump, Brexit and snowflakes. The Trump bit did reference the Piers Morgan interview but that was about a week ago.

uranrising - 02 Feb 2018 09:27:22 (#145 of 365)

It's also become formulaic in no time. I never had a sense of such rigidity with TWTWTW aka TW3. (That Was The Week ...)

HouseOfLametta - 02 Feb 2018 09:37:38 (#146 of 365)

TFC (Thanks for clarifying).

uranrising - 02 Feb 2018 09:51:38 (#147 of 365)

plezh. mutual.

Arjuna - 02 Feb 2018 09:53:42 (#148 of 365)

Satire shows have always tried hard to be up to the minute, in an age of 24 hour news Mash Report seems a bit lethargic.

ChankNolen - 02 Feb 2018 12:29:55 (#149 of 365)

You can't satirise the Establishment if you ARE the Establishment.

AlanII - 02 Feb 2018 12:38:35 (#150 of 365)

Farage comes close at times and Johnson manages it regularly.

Arjuna - 02 Feb 2018 12:41:10 (#151 of 365)

well all kinds of establishment types rant about the establishment, I saw a kipper doing it on the news once - then the text came up saying he was the Earl of Dartmouth.

xbod72 - 02 Feb 2018 16:04:51 (#152 of 365)

TWTWTW aka TW3. (That Was The Week ...)



You really made things difficult for yourself there, didn't you.

Ebadlun - 02 Feb 2018 16:10:23 (#153 of 365)

It's over, let it go.

xbod72 - 03 Feb 2018 13:38:49 (#154 of 365)

The Mash's job is done: it has upset Piers Morgan.

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/95951948563
0742529

AlanII - 03 Feb 2018 14:27:43 (#155 of 365)

It's over, let it go.

Heh.

xbod72 - 05 Feb 2018 11:17:07 (#156 of 365)

Got to appreciate the craftmanship here:

https://twitter.com/IamHappyToast/status/960191786
412060672

frantastic - 05 Feb 2018 12:13:35 (#157 of 365)

Great. Though they forgot the key words 'highly collectible' in the blurb.

uranrising - 05 Feb 2018 12:36:31 (#158 of 365)

or as we write in Britain (not often enough), ''highly collectable'. (Able to be collected.)

frantastic - 05 Feb 2018 13:23:54 (#159 of 365)

Yes, I thought 'collectable' but the interweb keeps telling me 'collectible' . Is this a 'two nations divided by a common lingo' U.S. thing?

browserbutton - 05 Feb 2018 13:25:10 (#160 of 365)

Both are correct.

uranrising - 05 Feb 2018 13:30:42 (#161 of 365)

The web is US-dominated, which is skewing 'correct' English spelling to the American. Personally, I'm not an American so I'll spell English.

browserbutton - 05 Feb 2018 13:36:22 (#162 of 365)

It's all English. I think you may mean British English.

HouseOfLametta - 05 Feb 2018 14:29:41 (#163 of 365)

That makes no sense.

AlanII - 05 Feb 2018 15:20:35 (#164 of 365)

Correct terminology as far as I know.

Arjuna - 05 Feb 2018 22:28:25 (#165 of 365)

I think Piers Morgan may be saving this show

xbod72 - 08 Feb 2018 22:09:00 (#166 of 365)

An attempt at a humorous attack on Corbyn tonight, perhaps in the interests of balance. However, them saying he appears to be someone that would talk about "an interesting pebble he found in his allotment" is really poor given that Corbyn has a real-life fascination for different sewer covers.

SheikYerbouti - 08 Feb 2018 22:12:59 (#167 of 365)

I think people are watching this out of pity at this point.

Arjuna - 08 Feb 2018 22:13:09 (#168 of 365)

Brexit ... Trump ... Brexit ... Trump ...

xbod72 - 08 Feb 2018 22:21:10 (#169 of 365)

Yes, they could broaden out their material, couldn't they?

A CAR WENT INTO SPACE this week. That should be a gift for oneliners.

xbod72 - 08 Feb 2018 22:26:14 (#170 of 365)

This racism segment is very, very long.

HerpDerp - 09 Feb 2018 17:13:20 (#171 of 365)

And not that funny. I quite liked the bit with the scary copper, couldn't tell if he was acting or not (I suspect not).

Arjuna - 10 Feb 2018 20:25:57 (#172 of 365)

My impression is that they're all a bit too nice - satire needs to be more brutal.

xbod72 - 10 Feb 2018 20:55:28 (#173 of 365)

Depicting a head halfway up an anus isn't really that nice.

Brunothecat - 10 Feb 2018 20:58:10 (#174 of 365)

But is it a fair representation of Morgan's interviewing technique? That surely is what matters.

Arjuna - 10 Feb 2018 21:07:03 (#175 of 365)

It wss more smutty than anything. I didn't even think it was that funny until Morgan started whining.

ChankNolen - 12 Feb 2018 17:31:30 (#176 of 365)

There's a famous Private Eye cover on a similar theme, Harold Wilson rimming Lyndon Johnson. Scarfe iirc. Genuinely laugh out loud horrible.

xbod72 - 12 Feb 2018 17:57:17 (#177 of 365)

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CFEAAOSwRTVaWLM3/s-l300.jpg

Bit hard to see if the tongue is touching anything. Or even to see the tongue.

xbod72 - 15 Feb 2018 22:13:26 (#178 of 365)

Liked the Mogg segment. They should have her do more segments like that.

xbod72 - 15 Feb 2018 22:14:28 (#179 of 365)

Are any of you getting the show as if some frames are missing from the broadcast?

I wouldn't normally ask and put it down to the BBC but my TV has been doing some other slightly odd things of late.

TRaney - 15 Feb 2018 22:23:07 (#180 of 365)

Yeah I just had a frame jump

xbod72 - 15 Feb 2018 22:24:33 (#181 of 365)

Good to know, cheers.

xbod72 - 15 Feb 2018 22:30:26 (#182 of 365)

If they didn't drink Um Bongo in the Congo, could they have been done under advertising standards?

Brunothecat - 15 Feb 2018 22:32:01 (#183 of 365)

They probably sent a few cases over first to cover themselves.

Ebadlun - 15 Feb 2018 22:32:18 (#184 of 365)

The DRC was Zaire then, so presumably they were referring to what is now Congo-Brazzaville.

TRaney - 15 Feb 2018 22:32:56 (#185 of 365)

It’s hard to prove due to the decades long civil war that’s killed more people than any other since WWII but nobody gives a fuck about, especially Jeremy ‘bleeding heart’ Corbyn.

Ebadlun - 15 Feb 2018 23:08:38 (#186 of 365)

https://www.blackagendareport.com/jeremy_corbyn_re
jects%2Bwhite_man%27s_burden

TRaney - 15 Feb 2018 23:09:55 (#187 of 365)

I rest my case

Ebadlun - 16 Feb 2018 01:22:29 (#188 of 365)

Watching it on iPlayer now, still jumping. (The program, not the DRC or Corbyn).

Ebadlun - 16 Feb 2018 01:27:39 (#189 of 365)

It is rather tiresome they don't appear to know that Finnish is unrelated to Swedish or Norwegian when making up their comedy names.

TRaney - 22 Feb 2018 22:28:42 (#190 of 365)

What does this Labour pol think he’s doing?

Arjuna - 22 Feb 2018 22:30:23 (#191 of 365)

not sure, its all a bit crap though

only funny thing has been the mangina guy

TRaney - 22 Feb 2018 22:32:32 (#192 of 365)

It’s not growing into itself or whatever

xbod72 - 22 Feb 2018 22:35:11 (#193 of 365)

The mangina?

Arjuna - 22 Feb 2018 22:36:38 (#194 of 365)

The mangina bloke was utterly absurd, amusing enough to watch him destroy himself with some great prompting from Desiree but why the need to hammer it home with all those stats?

GyratingTrampoline - 22 Feb 2018 23:56:46 (#195 of 365)

I like it, purely because its so rare to see any overt leftwing content on the telly.

TRaney - 22 Feb 2018 23:58:39 (#196 of 365)

It’s a humour show not a political show. And it’s not funny.

GyratingTrampoline - 23 Feb 2018 07:07:34 (#197 of 365)

If the beeb recategorised it as "political show with elements of humour" would you like it then?

Half of the time its not even trying to be funny, like the last episode when Nish talked about how shit brexit is, or the thing about snowflakes.

SunkenTreasures - 23 Feb 2018 07:53:22 (#198 of 365)

The Last Leg does it all much better.

xbod72 - 23 Feb 2018 08:41:27 (#199 of 365)

I don't like that show, Widdecombe gets on my nerves. And the other guy on the sofa with him likens every situation to some game on the Playstation. The host is very good, though.

barafundle - 24 Feb 2018 11:38:35 (#200 of 365)

Try Unspun XL with Matt Ford on Dave. It is a similar sort of show but does it so much better.

Very amusing interview this week with Alastair Campbell.

There are two versions of the show, the short one and the long one (XL).

Arjuna - 24 Feb 2018 11:43:44 (#201 of 365)

Its a bit worrying when a show is in the sub Dave category

Bribaba - 24 Feb 2018 11:59:38 (#202 of 365)

Not as bad as QI but then what is?

SinnerBoy - 26 Feb 2018 12:39:59 (#203 of 365)

barafundle -

Try Unspun XL with Matt Ford on Dave.

I watched that last night, just gave it a try. I haven't heard of it before.

I enjoyed it.

barafundle - 27 Feb 2018 14:36:29 (#204 of 365)

Sinner - glad you enjoyed it.

Definitely better than Mash Report IMHO

frantastic - 27 Feb 2018 15:04:52 (#205 of 365)

I'd watch that if it weren't for Matt Ford(e) who I find irritating.

xbod72 - 27 Feb 2018 16:23:31 (#206 of 365)

Yes, he's the reason I haven't bothered with it thus far.

xbod72 - 12 Jul 2018 16:04:59 (#207 of 365)

Ch4 has a thing called News Crack on 11pm tonight, another topical comedy. Title, perilously close to Radio 4 Extra's 'Newsjack'.

Arjuna - 12 Jul 2018 16:08:55 (#208 of 365)

perfectly timed for more Trump and Brexit gags

xbod72 - 12 Jul 2018 22:56:37 (#209 of 365)

I've started a thread for Crack.

https://justthetalk.com/media/44585/news_crack___y
et_another_topical_comedy_show__ch4_

xbod72 - 26 Oct 2018 16:59:34 (#210 of 365)

New series of Mash Report starts tonight. Wasn't on Friday before, was it.

So that now means THREE topical comedies from the BBC on a Friday, which seems a bit of an odd scheduling decision.

YogiMeerfield - 26 Oct 2018 17:23:19 (#211 of 365)

HIGNFY makes two. What's the third?

GyratingTrampoline - 26 Oct 2018 17:24:36 (#212 of 365)

Glad they're doing another series, I enjoyed the 1st

xbod72 - 26 Oct 2018 17:25:38 (#213 of 365)

Yogi, The News Quiz on Radio 4.

xbod72 - 26 Oct 2018 17:26:24 (#214 of 365)

I have my bugbears with Mash but, yes, glad to see it back.

YogiMeerfield - 26 Oct 2018 17:29:03 (#215 of 365)

Ah, radio. Must admit I've gone off both TNQ and HIGNFY. Both seem a bit stale these days.

xbod72 - 26 Oct 2018 17:34:35 (#216 of 365)

I find I look forward to both each week and then don't enjoy them as much as I hoped. I think there is some staleness but I think, also, just after so many years of tuning in it's a matter of slowly having become over-familiar with them. So it's both them and me working in concert to feel a sense of diminishing returns.

Arjuna - 26 Oct 2018 17:54:01 (#217 of 365)

Mash was a bit mixed last time round but the BBC are great believers in letting shows iron things out ina sexond run, lets hope its improved.

My only worry is that some bits like that token tory were running a bit thin last time round.

whitbreadtrophy - 27 Oct 2018 12:59:21 (#218 of 365)

My only worry is that some bits like that token tory were running a bit thin last time round.

I think there was a wish on the part of the programme makers to have a genuinely funny right-winger on the show. The trouble is that, regardless of his politics, Geoff Norcott is a crap comedian.

Otherwise I enjoyed last night's show.

moto748 - 28 Oct 2018 15:20:37 (#219 of 365)

So did I. I even laughed at their Corbyn gag.

frantastic - 28 Oct 2018 15:43:28 (#220 of 365)

The news reports are the best bits.

Vendor - 28 Oct 2018 15:55:46 (#221 of 365)

Anything with Ellie Taylor is a highlight, to be fair.

Verdigris - 28 Oct 2018 16:04:37 (#222 of 365)

The news reports are the best bits.



I had to go for a pee when one of them was on. It seemed to be getting the best laughs. I suppose I'll have to i-player to find out.

ChankNolen - 30 Oct 2018 10:25:40 (#223 of 365)

Uneven, to say the least. I normally like the Rachel Parrish bits but the back and forth with Nish really didn't work this time and the section with the Irish comedienne talking about immigration was painfully crap.

uranrising - 30 Oct 2018 11:10:36 (#224 of 365)

I agree about the Parris (!) bits. She was better when coming out with her afterthought punchlines in a semi-mutter.

frantastic - 30 Oct 2018 20:30:59 (#225 of 365)

"Woman who received dick pic still laughing."

Ebadlun - 15 Nov 2018 00:15:36 (#226 of 365)

Is it me or is it a bit more polemical this series?

Which I welcome, my abiding dislike of UK satire (vs the US version) is that's it's all about cheap laughs rather than actually calling out wrongness.

GyratingTrampoline - 15 Nov 2018 08:43:08 (#227 of 365)

When it was just a satirical news website I didn't notice any political slant at all.

I too am very happy to see left wing ideas being forcefully expressed on the telly for once. Hasn't been anything comparable since Mark Thomas who was also not particularly funny.

Ebadlun - 15 Nov 2018 09:47:45 (#228 of 365)

Also Rory Bremner, but there was always something rather insufferable about him.

SheikYerbouti - 15 Nov 2018 09:52:08 (#229 of 365)

The less 'calling out' the better in all walks of life.

GyratingTrampoline - 15 Nov 2018 12:54:44 (#230 of 365)

It's it the specific terminology "calling out" that you don't like? Or are you calling out the underlying meaning?

SheikYerbouti - 15 Nov 2018 13:06:14 (#231 of 365)

Picking people up on bad behaviour is a legitimate enterprise. 'Calling out' sits alongside worrying about 'optics' and the weaselly construction 'could be seen as' as a trend to eliminate all nuance or context in conversation or on social media. I find it depressing.

Ebadlun - 15 Nov 2018 13:33:34 (#232 of 365)

So what's the line between 'picking up on' and 'calling out'?

GyratingTrampoline - 15 Nov 2018 13:35:44 (#233 of 365)

I avoid the term "call out" myself because it sounds a bit twee, but when I hear others use it I assume it just means saying that something is shit for progressive or leftwing reasons.

Arjuna - 15 Nov 2018 13:50:36 (#234 of 365)

To my ears 'calling out' sounds judgmental, 'picking up on' sounds like an argument is being constructed.

moto748 - 15 Nov 2018 14:43:00 (#235 of 365)

Which was Sheik's point, I guess.

moto748 - 08 Dec 2018 14:53:56 (#236 of 365)

I've generally been enjoying this, but this week's seemed a bit flat and below par. Especially if it's the last of the series. Good work at the grinning goons at food banks, though.

xbod72 - 08 Dec 2018 15:14:09 (#237 of 365)

I didn't see all of it but I liked that they had the quote from a teacher talking about children being sickly through poverty and not making a joke about it because - as they intimated - it's just too shitty a thing to be happening.

xbod72 - 12 Sep 2019 22:20:02 (#238 of 365)

Stewart Lee once said something on stage to applause and then he said something like "yes, that's right! You'll go home and people will ask you if the show was funny and you'll go 'no, but I agreed the fuck out of it'."

That's kind of my feeling about it most of the time. I just get a mild pleasure out of people I don't like being lambasted but I don't laugh much.

TRaney - 12 Sep 2019 22:23:16 (#239 of 365)

Yeah they seem to put the opinion first then tack on the humour instead of the other way round.

xbod72 - 12 Sep 2019 22:25:47 (#240 of 365)

I quite liked "Pound drops to one Nectar point". Those snappy headlines are the best bits usually, in my opinion.

TRaney - 12 Sep 2019 22:26:36 (#241 of 365)

That's closest to its website origins.

The singing bits are awful

moto748 - 13 Sep 2019 01:11:37 (#242 of 365)

Have there been two now? I watched the first new one, and thought it nowhere near as strong as the last series.

xbod72 - 13 Sep 2019 09:00:39 (#243 of 365)

I think two, aye.

Arjuna - 13 Sep 2019 09:37:45 (#244 of 365)

The satire never seems to bite, they all seem a bit too nice, it's like being savaged by a dead sheep.

I think most great satirists need to be at least a bit of a bastard.

FrankieTeardrop - 13 Sep 2019 09:39:45 (#245 of 365)

"Yeah they seem to put the opinion first then tack on the humour instead of the other way round."

Overtly political bands seem to have the same approach. Opinion first, tack tune on afterwards.

TRaney - 13 Sep 2019 09:40:32 (#246 of 365)

And they keep having that Tory boy on. I'm not opposed to tory comedians, but he's shit

Arjuna - 13 Sep 2019 09:41:16 (#247 of 365)

one trick pony

FrankieTeardrop - 13 Sep 2019 09:41:58 (#248 of 365)

"I'm not opposed to tory comedians"

Why not?

HouseOfLametta - 13 Sep 2019 09:42:03 (#249 of 365)

I'm sure there are some funny Tories.

TRaney - 13 Sep 2019 09:42:52 (#250 of 365)

Why not?

I lack moral fibre

HouseOfLametta - 13 Sep 2019 09:51:10 (#251 of 365)

I mean, there must be.

xbod72 - 13 Sep 2019 10:07:40 (#252 of 365)

There's that guy who does the R4 series called something like "In The Market". Grey beard. He's all right. In two senses.

xbod72 - 13 Sep 2019 10:08:05 (#253 of 365)

It must be '[Guy's name] goes to Market'.

Vendor - 13 Sep 2019 10:18:03 (#254 of 365)

Simon Evans, isn't it?

I've taken to watching TMR up to Norcott coming on, then firing up the Sky+ and watching Threads for a bit of comic relief.

carterbrandon - 13 Sep 2019 10:22:47 (#255 of 365)

Northcott is just doing Ricky Gervais's act way back from The 11 O'Clock Show, with Nish standing in for Iain Lee. And not nearly as well. Even got the same Brylcreem and t-shirt.

MrPurple - 13 Sep 2019 10:36:32 (#256 of 365)

The singing bits are awful



That's true of every comedy program, radio or TV. I wish they wouldn't do that.

TRaney - 13 Sep 2019 10:38:57 (#257 of 365)

Except for Richard Stilgoe. He was brilliant. And probably a Tory.

TRaney - 13 Sep 2019 10:40:42 (#258 of 365)

Wow, Stilgoe isn’t dead!

TRaney - 13 Sep 2019 10:40:52 (#259 of 365)

Hence the name I guess

HouseOfLametta - 13 Sep 2019 10:41:15 (#260 of 365)

That's the funniest thing he's ever done.

FrankieTeardrop - 13 Sep 2019 10:42:47 (#261 of 365)

I have vague memories of a children's tv programme he hosted, a quiz which involved using the International Radiotelephony Spelling Alphabet - A for Alpha, F for Foxtrot.

TRaney - 13 Sep 2019 10:46:03 (#262 of 365)

Surely B comes before F

xbod72 - 13 Sep 2019 11:08:49 (#263 of 365)

"there's a feeling of love that comes into being when we meet someone whose nature and morals are compatible with ours, for we think we see integrity and virtue burning brightly in them."

~ Cicero

TRaney - 13 Sep 2019 11:18:12 (#264 of 365)

It’s easy to make principles from our prejudices

SinnerBoy - 13 Sep 2019 11:27:39 (#265 of 365)

TRaney -

I lack moral fibre

Have you tried 365 Organic Bran Flakes?

TRaney - 13 Sep 2019 11:28:10 (#266 of 365)

It comes out of you at all angles?

SinnerBoy - 13 Sep 2019 11:29:18 (#267 of 365)

No, it's morally acceptable fibre.

xbod72 - 13 Sep 2019 11:58:52 (#268 of 365)

It’s easy to make principles from our prejudices



That's covered by "we think we see." :)

TRaney - 13 Sep 2019 12:02:51 (#269 of 365)

I know, I was just offering a more succinct version than that old windbag Tully.

xbod72 - 13 Sep 2019 12:47:39 (#270 of 365)

Ha ha! :)

xbod72 - 13 Sep 2019 19:15:23 (#271 of 365)

There's a channel 4 topical thing tonight at 10pm. I think it's the first ever episode but not at all sure. Rob Rinder something something.

barafundle - 13 Sep 2019 20:11:36 (#272 of 365)

I keep trying to watch that Judge Rinder thing and even though he has interesting witty guests on, it all seems to fall rather flat. I don’t think his delivery is very convincing. Usually end up turning it off half way through.

Moschops - 13 Sep 2019 20:15:41 (#273 of 365)

I think it's the first ever episode but not at all sure. Rob Rinder something something

Been on a couple of weeks now. Awful.

xbod72 - 13 Sep 2019 21:37:37 (#274 of 365)

Oh, bugger. I like good topical comedy and now I'm led not to expect it.

moto748 - 13 Sep 2019 22:23:21 (#275 of 365)

It's not brilliant, but perhaps the criticism is a little harsh. We certainly need something like this on TV.

I did like Corbyn and Watson on Love Island, though.

xbod72 - 19 Sep 2019 22:16:28 (#276 of 365)

Why did he give cuts in two figures as percent and the third as a raw figure?

xbod72 - 19 Sep 2019 22:19:24 (#277 of 365)

I liked the "Man sorts out a thing and wants a fucking medal for it" bit.

Ebadlun - 20 Sep 2019 01:51:32 (#278 of 365)

I did three things today. Yes THREE. Two emails, and I got a new resident's parking permit.

I don't want a major award, obviously, a CBE will be fine.

Ebadlun - 20 Sep 2019 02:04:26 (#279 of 365)

I'm still liking this, but I think it falls short of its US models - John Oliver and before him Jon Stewart were actually journalists working through the medium of comedy, whereas this is still comedy first.

John Oliver will happily do a 20-minute segment on US infrastructure or Turkmenistan, with a mind-blowing combination of holy-shit-is-this-for-real and belly laughs. I can't see Nish, or anyone else, doing that in the UK.

uranrising - 20 Sep 2019 04:23:51 (#280 of 365)

Alexie (sp?) Sayle

Catspyjamas17 - 20 Sep 2019 05:37:16 (#281 of 365)

I like this, laughed a lot last night.

Not a fan of Oliver or Stewart anyway, appreciate and usually agreed with what they are saying but as a viewing experience it was like being repeatedly hit over the head. 15 minute mansplaining.

FrankieTeardrop - 20 Sep 2019 07:37:32 (#282 of 365)

That's how I feel about Jonathan Pie

Tenesmus - 20 Sep 2019 07:50:33 (#283 of 365)

#279 sounds familiar...

Ebadlun - 03 Aug 2017 23:36:53 ( #85 of 282)

I think it's really found its feet and started to feel like the website.

No really informative John Oliver-type factifying (as they did for a bit last week with Trump's support). I would like to see that more.

I'm preferring John Oliver these days over the Daily Show, even if he does go overboard milking the gags, just because he's really on a mission to inform, and dig dirt on how the US really operates.

xbod72 - 20 Sep 2019 08:53:52 (#284 of 365)

I much prefer John Oliver to The Daily Mash and would be grateful to see something like that here.

donttellhimpike - 20 Sep 2019 08:56:35 (#285 of 365)

I hate this.

Hate.

Hate.

Hate.

Hate.

Hate.

Hate.

FrankieTeardrop - 20 Sep 2019 08:57:10 (#286 of 365)

I'm guessing it suffers from smugness. Am I right, pike?

donttellhimpike - 20 Sep 2019 09:01:26 (#287 of 365)

Well yeah but smugness is part of the formula, they get that from the shows they are aping, Daily Show, Colbert, John Oliver etc.m Mostly though I dislike it because they do the same fucking joke over and over. Newsreader woman shuffles papers, looks up into camera and says in serious voice "this report just in, women are great" pauses, turns to other camera "men are shit" cue peals of laughter.

Also, I bet every fucking one of them went to a posh school. comes from a posh family, or secretly votes tory.

FrankieTeardrop - 20 Sep 2019 09:07:28 (#288 of 365)

Heh

I have a weird antipathy to the kind of faux-London accent that only certain political comedians seem to have, sounds like it was learned by listening to interviews with 70s punk bands.

xbod72 - 20 Sep 2019 09:27:07 (#289 of 365)

I think there's a lot more art in the newsreader headlines than "women are great" allows for.

whitbreadtrophy - 20 Sep 2019 11:09:33 (#290 of 365)

John Oliver and before him Jon Stewart were actually journalists working through the medium of comedy, whereas this is still comedy first.

No, like Nish Kumar they were stand-ups first and last until they got their respective shows. What they probably have is a bigger research team (including journalists) to ferret out the facts behind issues.

xbod72 - 20 Sep 2019 12:00:56 (#291 of 365)

Probably a bigger writers room for the comedy bits too.

TRaney - 20 Sep 2019 12:06:19 (#292 of 365)

I'd rather have an original British satirical show than try to ape the American ones.

TRaney - 20 Sep 2019 12:07:04 (#293 of 365)

My problem is it feels inessential. It's OK to have on, there might be the odd funny bit, more annoying bits, but none of it seems like you need to make a point of watching it.

carterbrandon - 20 Sep 2019 12:48:24 (#294 of 365)

Do the American ones still get the drummer to play a rim shot on the punchline, Partridge style? I thought that was a cheesy 1950s thing, but then I saw David Letterman do it, not so long ago.

FrankieTeardrop - 20 Sep 2019 12:53:54 (#295 of 365)

Stephen Colbert has musical punctuation in his monologues.

xbod72 - 20 Sep 2019 14:12:41 (#296 of 365)

I think Colbert was much better on The Daily Show than on his own thing.

SinnerBoy - 20 Sep 2019 16:40:11 (#297 of 365)

FrankieTeardrop - #288

Yes, whatever happened to Ben Elton?

YogiMeerfield - 20 Sep 2019 18:18:43 (#298 of 365)

Currently doing a stand-up tour, I believe.

whitbreadtrophy - 20 Sep 2019 18:25:47 (#299 of 365)

I have a weird antipathy to the kind of faux-London accent that only certain political comedians seem to have

Kumar's from Croydon. How is he supposed to sound?

TRaney - 20 Sep 2019 18:26:28 (#300 of 365)

apologetic

FrankieTeardrop - 25 Sep 2019 16:30:43 (#301 of 365)

I wasn't referring to Kumar, I can't auralise his accent.

xbod72 - 26 Sep 2019 22:14:56 (#302 of 365)

The gay woman's top... is that like a comedy blouse?

TRaney - 26 Sep 2019 22:15:39 (#303 of 365)

IIJM or was that sketch laboured as fuck?

xbod72 - 26 Sep 2019 22:19:08 (#304 of 365)

It went on too long, I thought.

xbod72 - 26 Sep 2019 22:19:33 (#305 of 365)

But it wasn't aimed at Catholics.

TRaney - 26 Sep 2019 22:20:51 (#306 of 365)

I'm not a catholic

TRaney - 26 Sep 2019 22:22:34 (#307 of 365)

Oh christ not this cunt

xbod72 - 26 Sep 2019 22:23:08 (#308 of 365)

Aren't you!? Oh. Sorry. I don't know where I got that idea. I thought you'd said so on that anniversary of The Reformation or something.

xbod72 - 26 Sep 2019 22:23:50 (#309 of 365)

I do find I zone out a lot while this is on, but my concentration is poor overall, I suppose.

TRaney - 26 Sep 2019 22:28:09 (#310 of 365)

Do schoolkids stay up to watch this and repeat bits of it the next day?

SharkPatoo - 26 Sep 2019 22:50:08 (#311 of 365)

Of course not, it's rubbish!

solomongursky - 26 Sep 2019 22:50:42 (#312 of 365)

Richard Pictures was funny.

SharkPatoo - 26 Sep 2019 22:52:31 (#313 of 365)

Richard Pictorial woulda been funnier.

moto748 - 28 Sep 2019 01:17:17 (#314 of 365)

For all he was mocked, it's not really as good as Mike Yarwood (incidentally, just reading MY's wiki page, that's a sad story; I didn't know). That said, I still think we need a programme like this, and obviously it's not easy to be topical and funny in short order. Maybe they should bring Marina in as a writer?

moto748 - 28 Sep 2019 01:17:58 (#315 of 365)

And I did think, about the dick pic piece, well, if it stops one guy...

moto748 - 28 Sep 2019 01:18:37 (#316 of 365)

Public service television at its best, there!

frantastic - 28 Sep 2019 13:42:22 (#317 of 365)

Pubic Service Television.

GyratingTrampoline - 28 Sep 2019 14:35:22 (#318 of 365)

They say they're gonna make a new series of spitting image, I hope it retains some of the spirit if the orig

GyratingTrampoline - 28 Sep 2019 14:35:28 (#319 of 365)

They say they're gonna make a new series of spitting image, I hope it retains some of the spirit if the orig

donttellhimpike - 28 Sep 2019 14:40:40 (#320 of 365)

Spitting Image was very much of its time, I can't see a new version being anything but a disappointment.

frantastic - 28 Sep 2019 15:11:35 (#321 of 365)

We are beyond satire now.

uranrising - 29 Sep 2019 19:02:45 (#322 of 365)

Satirist Bruce Jay Friedman thought we already were, back in the early 70s, after an American officer was reported as saying, "The village had to be bombed to be saved."

GyratingTrampoline - 29 Sep 2019 20:34:39 (#323 of 365)

I thought satire was supposed to be dead since Kissenger won the nobel peace prize. Hasn't stopped the various satirists in the years since

whitbreadtrophy - 30 Sep 2019 13:50:54 (#324 of 365)

For those of you preoccupied with a lack of right-wing comics I believe your prayers may have been answered.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/comedy-unleashed-at-conservative-conference-tickets-70269773785?utm-medium=discovery&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&aff=escb&utm-source=cp&utm-term=eventcard&mc_cid=fd7c6ac85c&mc_eid=cc
0b9bad4b

Ebadlun - 04 Oct 2019 02:01:58 (#325 of 365)

Assuming this is now the generic satire thread - Chris Morris interviewed on Channel 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liV5wKAihh8

Ebadlun - 04 Oct 2019 02:12:50 (#326 of 365)

I liked his line about satire that placates the court - pretty much all UK satire right now.

Satire that pokes fun at Corbyn's anti-semitism, rather than the absurdity of Corbyn being considered anti-semitic, and the story behind it, for example.

FrankieTeardrop - 04 Oct 2019 10:40:47 (#327 of 365)

I don't think I've ever seen him be interviewed before. Quite strange seeing him out of character.

xbod72 - 08 May 2020 22:32:15 (#328 of 365)

I liked the joke about Trump being a person of colour. I suspect it's a joke that's been out on Twitter for yonks but I'd not previously heard it.

HouseOfLametta - 08 May 2020 22:34:47 (#329 of 365)

This guy has worse teeth than me.

moto748 - 08 May 2020 22:45:12 (#330 of 365)

Must be the heroin.

Verdigris - 08 May 2020 22:46:18 (#331 of 365)

What am I watching? Fell asleep at the end of MR.

TommyDGNR8 - 08 May 2020 22:49:14 (#332 of 365)

Norcott is the sort of right wing comedian that makes you long for the days of Manning and Davidson. He's fucking rubbish.

moto748 - 08 May 2020 22:57:19 (#333 of 365)

*Is* Norcott a 'right-wing comedian? I mean, I dunno, it's an act, a persona, is it anything more than that? I know nothing about the guy (I didn't even assume that it was his real name) other than what I've seen on the Mash report.

Verdigris - 08 May 2020 22:58:42 (#334 of 365)

Was Norcott on tonight? I think I may have nodded off before the end.

moto748 - 08 May 2020 23:03:00 (#335 of 365)

Tonight's a repeat, isn't it? I thought they said the last one with other day. I don't think he was, actually.They had that Italian (?) guy on for quite a while.

Verdigris - 08 May 2020 23:07:55 (#336 of 365)

I hadn't seen it before. Are you watching on i-player?

Norcott was on last week.

moto748 - 09 May 2020 01:34:05 (#337 of 365)

No, on the TV.

TommyDGNR8 - 09 May 2020 09:11:20 (#338 of 365)

If Norcott's schtick is an act, then he keeps it up offstage.

whitbreadtrophy - 09 May 2020 13:27:58 (#339 of 365)

*Is* Norcott a 'right-wing comedian?

Yes, he genuinely is. It's the old Auberon Waugh schtick of the shitstain reactionary pretending to be a shitstain reactionary.

moto748 - 09 May 2020 14:53:25 (#340 of 365)

OK, fairy nuff.

Tenesmus - 14 May 2020 01:04:36 (#341 of 365)

What does a right wing comedian joke about? Poor people, immigrants and pooves?

xbod72 - 14 May 2020 01:28:27 (#342 of 365)

Well, that has been the longstanding thought about right wing comedy: it can only punch down. And people, especially the denizens of a board like this - including me, feel that's not on.

Verdigris - 14 May 2020 08:17:21 (#343 of 365)

What does a right wing comedian joke about? Poor people, immigrants and pooves?



To be fair to Norcott, I can't recall him sinking to that level of "humour".

Arjuna - 14 May 2020 08:38:47 (#344 of 365)

he just jokes about left wing comedians

Vendor - 14 May 2020 08:43:27 (#345 of 365)

I wouldn't know. Nish gets as far as 'Geoff...' and that's my cue to switch off/over.

GyratingTrampoline - 14 May 2020 09:27:44 (#346 of 365)

His last bit was having a pop at Biden for being an old establishment white male with sexual harassment allegations

Ginmonkey - 14 May 2020 09:36:42 (#347 of 365)

I thought he was pretty spot on there. The Democrats are never going to beat Trump if they keep coming up with tired, lame candidates.

I don't share a lot of his politics but he is quite thoughtful and interesting. It is never good to seal yourself into an echo chamber.

hailesaladdie - 14 May 2020 10:28:28 (#348 of 365)

Simon Evans often gets labelled as a right wing comedian, and his material is pretty good - the "Goes to Market" series on R4 was excellent listening. He later did a piece on what it was to be considered a right wing comedian.

Norcott suffers from just being a weak observationalist.

Ginmonkey - 14 May 2020 10:29:52 (#349 of 365)

I like Simon Evans a lot. He can be a bit provocative but that's ok - since when did we watch comedy just to agree with it?

Verdigris - 14 May 2020 11:45:37 (#350 of 365)

Yep. Evans is ace.

Milton Jones is RW and a bit Christian. He is wise to stick to the punnage.

xbod72 - 14 May 2020 12:31:22 (#351 of 365)

I really like Milton Jones' stand-up. There's a few albums on my Google Play music streaming service so they may be on Spotify as well.

Arjuna - 14 May 2020 12:39:21 (#352 of 365)

Simon Evans really isn't that right wing

Verdigris - 14 May 2020 12:41:45 (#353 of 365)

Simon Evans really isn't that right wing



More of an LD that understands economics.

carterbrandon - 14 May 2020 12:45:17 (#354 of 365)

He can't understand it all that much; too sympathetic to Brexit.

Arjuna - 14 May 2020 12:45:38 (#355 of 365)

Whenever an article is written about the dearth of “Right-wing comedians” on television or radio, my name tends to crop up. It’s easy to see why: for my stage act, I speak in an enhanced, BBC Received Pronunciation, and inhabit the persona of a man slightly out of touch with the modern world (that part isn’t entirely an act). Though I appreciate that in the metropolitan, Left-leaning mainstream comedy landscape, I don’t quite conform. So it’s reassuring to learn that one isn’t entirely isolated, at least among audiences

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/brexit-has-made-harder-stand-up-comedian-ha-ha/

guigal - 14 May 2020 12:46:07 (#356 of 365)

Thank God for Nish and the team. It's not 'a new comedy show'. It's been going on for years, though.

Verdigris - 14 May 2020 12:47:10 (#357 of 365)

too sympathetic to Brexit



Is he? Can't say I got that impression but it has been a long time since the last Goes to Market series.

AlanII - 14 May 2020 12:48:03 (#358 of 365)

Perhaps he's getting more right wing with age.

Ginmonkey - 14 May 2020 13:16:22 (#359 of 365)

I think he is less sympathetic than more of the view that it isn't the worst thing since the bubonic plague.

AlanII - 14 May 2020 13:26:18 (#360 of 365)

Which, of course, it isn't.

Arjuna - 14 May 2020 13:29:10 (#361 of 365)

worse than that?

AlanII - 14 May 2020 13:44:05 (#362 of 365)

The Black Death, no, Brexit is not worse than that. It is, however a self inflicted wound and, sets up the most challenging set of international interaction for the UK since WWII. Thank God the electorate have seen fit to elect a Government that's clearly up to any such task.

Arjuna - 14 May 2020 14:00:40 (#363 of 365)

The comedian sets out his vision for Brexit, including a ban on overseas holidays.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p05fhp7j

Verdigris - 14 May 2020 14:06:43 (#364 of 365)

Clearly a skit from somebody who thinks Brexit is a stupid idea.

Arjuna - 14 May 2020 17:58:56 (#365 of 365)

I think its a case that there were people there to be made fun of, the Brexiteers were the protagonists in the argument and many exremely vocal. The anti Brexit case had no figures like Boris or Nigel to take the piss out of, it was largely made by mainstream politicians making the weak argument that the EU wasn't that bad.

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