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Started by Natascha on Sep 10, 2017 3:16:10 PM
The Expanse

Seasons 1 and 2 available on Netflix. Season 3 already commissioned.

Spoilers all. Do not read this thread if you want to avoid spoilers.

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Natascha - 10 Sep 2017 15:18:24 (#1 of 289)

I am just over halfway through Season 2.

To be quite honest, I have had to use wikipedia and a series of catch-up videos (links welcomed) to remember what happened in Season 1. A small plot this is not.

However, as soon as I have finished Season 2, I am going to go back and start Season 1 and go through it carefully. There is some massive world-building going on here and I wondered if anyone cared to join me.

TheExcession - 10 Sep 2017 16:24:48 (#2 of 289)

I'm enjoying this a lot. It's proper space opera with no magic rayguns, cute aliens or bumpy forehead of the week, and where space is filled with ways to die quickly and nastily.

Natascha - 10 Sep 2017 18:22:12 (#3 of 289)

And when you actually think about what you are seeing on screen, the CGI is magnificent. There's proper character development set up as well.

Splattsville - 10 Sep 2017 19:01:26 (#4 of 289)

I've watched seasons 1 and 2, plus the books, and have thoroughly enjoyed them. Next book out at the end of October! If they continue long enough there are some great story lines for the TV series to get its teeth into. One of the more realistic things about it is how humans are just a bunch of warmongering pricks - doesn't matter what circumstances, we will just divide ourselves up and fight each other. No bright enlightened future here.

Natascha - 10 Sep 2017 19:02:51 (#5 of 289)

Having said that, I am at the point where Bobby Draper (that's a fantastic character) has escaped the Martian embassy and is trying to find the ocean, and realises that not all Earthers are terrible people.

samesamebutdifferent - 10 Sep 2017 20:57:52 (#6 of 289)

I recently rewatched the first series in anticipation of the second. Just as soon as I finish off Narcos 3...

Natascha - 10 Sep 2017 22:15:30 (#7 of 289)

Well. Have now finished Season 2. I am going to go back and watch Season 1 from the beginning, commenting along the way, in a couple of days. Would appreciate thoughts from other people.

thisonehasalittlehat - 11 Sep 2017 09:47:13 (#8 of 289)

There's a discussion on the netflix / now tv thread. tldr: I thought the first season clearly suffered from a limited budget. The second season I'm halfway through and clearly it's got a bigger budget but it's not really exceeding mediocre for me. They don't have the budget to do justice to the ambition I reckon. I've not read the books and I'm never likely to.

(Also that ship they stole, whatever it's called, the set-up is all a bit Blake's 7!)

This is an slightly unrelated point, but they must teach this in television writing school. I'm now so irritated by the dramatic device of putting two characters who would not normally get along together in a locked room or something for an episode so they can bounce of each other in an interesting way.

Natascha - 11 Sep 2017 09:51:54 (#9 of 289)

I know that there was a discussion on the Now TV thread. I think that The Expanse is big enough and ambitious enough, especially with another season comissioned, to warrant a thread of its own. I wouldn't dismiss it as mediocre. It has its faults, sure, but so does everything.

thisonehasalittlehat - 11 Sep 2017 09:54:32 (#10 of 289)

Yes, I was just pointing you to it because I thought it might interest you not suggesting there shouldn't be a thread!

Anyway as I said over there I'm still watching it so it must have something because I'm not loyal.

Natascha - 11 Sep 2017 10:35:25 (#11 of 289)

Thanks, hatters. I should try harder not to be so prickly.

Tagyourit - 11 Sep 2017 10:43:18 (#12 of 289)

I'm reading (and very much enjoying) the books at the moment, anyone know how closely the TV series follows the novels?

JessicaEccles6 - 11 Sep 2017 10:47:21 (#13 of 289)

I am loving this so very very much at the moment that I am rationing s2. It's just so refreshing to find some proper grown up sci-fi.

I haven't been this content since BSG.

thisonehasalittlehat - 11 Sep 2017 11:19:23 (#14 of 289)

I think BSG might have spoiled me because it was 80% perfect; by which I mean that 8/10ths of it was perfect but then there was a bit that was rubbish a lot of what was to do with studio interference and/or losing control of the plot in the final two seasons plus a bit of irritating running around in the rain on Caprica that seemed to go on forever.

I didn't even mind Starbuck being an Angel; that religious element was such a strong theme of the programme I was surprised that people were surprised that the show was actually taking it seriously!


But there's always rubbishy bits of the best programmes; like the sentimentality of the west wing or the cliched cop stuff in the wire.

JessicaEccles6 - 11 Sep 2017 11:23:17 (#15 of 289)

the only flaw I could find with BSG was the last episode.

SirensOfAcreLane - 11 Sep 2017 11:28:38 (#16 of 289)

I liked Caprica!

thisonehasalittlehat - 11 Sep 2017 11:33:27 (#17 of 289)

the only flaw I could find with BSG was the last episode.

And the acting of boomer.

I don't know why anyone was surprised she wasn't human.

SirensOfAcreLane - 11 Sep 2017 11:34:53 (#18 of 289)

#9 there was a discussion on the Now TV thread

It's also been discussed on the Worldwide telly and SF books threads, so agreed, a thread for this is probably warranted. Reposting this link because it's still purrfect... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivej0OW7WZk THE EXPANSE | Season 1 Recap: With Cats (Recat!)

JessicaEccles6 - 11 Sep 2017 11:38:01 (#19 of 289)

Boomer was terribly pretty tho'

SirensOfAcreLane - 11 Sep 2017 11:40:14 (#20 of 289)

Bobby Draper (that's a fantastic character)

I've gushed (not like that) over the perfect casting of Frankie Adams as Bobbie Draper on another thread. Just reading some fine words about the effort that went into the search: http://www.indiewire.com/2017/02/the-expanse-bobbie-draper-frankie-adams-season-2-casting-1201779336/

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