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Started by darkhorse on Apr 13, 2018 7:14:04 AM
BBC under fire over Enoch Powell 'rivers of blood' broadcast

The BBC has come under fire over plans to air a full recitation of Enoch Powell’s infamous “rivers of blood” speech, with a Labour peer writing to Ofcom about the broadcast and one contributor saying she regrets taking part.

The 50th anniversary broadcast on Saturday will feature the actor Ian McDiarmid reading the full text of Powell’s incendiary speech, interspersed with analysis and criticism. If it goes ahead it will be the first time the speech has been broadcast in full on British radio.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/apr/12/bbc-to-air-reading-of-enoch-powells-rivers-of-blood-speech

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darkhorse - 13 Apr 2018 07:17:49 (#1 of 260)

Up or down with this kind of thing etc?

As a crashing snob, I assume Radio 4 listeners are adult enough to contextualise the speech in a programme about its impact, which is of course a legitimate topic for a documentary.

But happy to discuss alternative views. Should we spurn the horrible old sod and his rhetoric these days? Is it that the doc is just overdoing the re-enactment, and the recitation of the whole speeech is excessive and potentially inciendary as it was at the time?

machiavelli - 13 Apr 2018 07:20:21 (#2 of 260)

interspersed with analysis and criticism

So not broadcast without context or challenge. It's part of history and I'm not of the view that we should only examine the bits that accord with current mores.

upgoerfive - 13 Apr 2018 07:20:28 (#3 of 260)

"Like the Roman, I seem to see the message boards foaming with much froth ..."

Shadrack22 - 13 Apr 2018 07:25:08 (#4 of 260)

I will be interested to hear the programme, but is there any particular reason for broadcasting the full speech? Is there a precedent? Or is it a bit of a stunt? Suspect it is ‘over-doing the re-enactment.’

browserbutton - 13 Apr 2018 07:28:23 (#5 of 260)

No doubt Enoch would be a UKIP pin-up boy if he was around today.

'Thousands of workers staged strikes and marches in support of Powell’s views. In 1974 he left the Conservative party in opposition to Heath’s plan to join the European Union.'

machiavelli - 13 Apr 2018 07:29:25 (#6 of 260)

By that simple logic, so would a good deal of the PLP at the time.

Shadrack22 - 13 Apr 2018 07:31:10 (#7 of 260)

The long view:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n05/peter-clarke/i-am-a-classical-scholar-and-you-are-not

A shame Tangent isn’t around to add his thoughts.

machiavelli - 13 Apr 2018 07:33:11 (#8 of 260)

Why did Tangent decamp? Too much ment and shit-flinging, or did he just find something better to do?

SharkPatoo - 13 Apr 2018 07:38:16 (#9 of 260)

In 1974 he left the Conservative party in opposition to Heath’s plan to join the European Union.'

He’d be fairly mainstream nowadays.

TRaney - 13 Apr 2018 07:42:42 (#10 of 260)

I didn’t realise he was really called John. I wonder if he’d have been as famous if he hadn’t changed to the more unusual name.

RosyLovelady - 13 Apr 2018 06:45:53 (#11 of 260)

He evidently didn't think so.

TRaney - 13 Apr 2018 06:46:48 (#12 of 260)

Will the Football Lads Alliance be huddled round the wireless?

popstar7 - 13 Apr 2018 07:45:26 (#13 of 260)

I'd never read it before. I wouldn't say it was much good as a speech or as a prophecy -

http://endchan.net/.media/cf2004d2db2a1cab725f3ca1
8da989e5-applicationpdf.pdf


I think Corbyn might have nicked his 'I have a letter here from Mandy in Wolverhampton' PQT routine from it.

Peacock - 13 Apr 2018 07:47:18 (#14 of 260)

The original is on YouTube.

Rendered - 13 Apr 2018 07:47:44 (#15 of 260)

This is an absolute disgrace, devoting so much air time to the useless Amol Rajan.

darkhorse - 13 Apr 2018 07:56:54 (#16 of 260)

For somebody apparently pedantic and obsessed with accuracy, seems Enoch Powell was rather credulous and selective when it came to anecdotal evidence.

darkhorse - 13 Apr 2018 08:01:06 (#17 of 260)

Re Amol Rajan, because his voice is uncannily similar to Jack Dee, I keep expecting dry deadpan witticisms.

RosyLovelady - 13 Apr 2018 08:01:53 (#18 of 260)

Investigative journalists (there used to be such a thing) never did find the terrified old lady, did they?

Rendered - 13 Apr 2018 08:02:11 (#19 of 260)

He has the overbearing manner of a phone shop wanker.

TRaney - 13 Apr 2018 08:02:22 (#20 of 260)

The letter in response to the LRB piece suggests they did

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