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Started by MorrisMitchener on Mar 14, 2019 2:06:36 PM
After Life - Gervais

New Ricky Gervais thing on Netflix.

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MorrisMitchener - 14 Mar 2019 14:07:29 (#1 of 88)

I hated this.

Gervais is just cynically exploiting a very serious condition, depression, to justify his usual nasty, mean spirited obsessions. The character here is a hateful, repulsive mean bully to everyone he encounters -

"Yeah, but depression."

No. That's not good enough! Millions suffer from this condition and aren't repulsive shitbags to everyone around them all the time! Gervais simply uses "Yeah, but depression" as a Get Out Of Jail Free card for his character to harass people, often in crap jobs. It's just pettiness. Nothing has changed with Gervais - this is him at his worst, allowing himself to binge on pettiness and nastiness.

People constantly tell him how and lovely and funny he is all throughout the show - despite there being zero evidence for the former and little of the latter.

We see clips of him prior to his wife's death, so we can see what a lovely chap he was! But all we get are clips are of him playing horrid pranks on her! - letting off an airhorn while she's painting or sleeping, chucking a bucket of water on her when she comes home from work! Oh - at one point we see him giving her a puppy, cos that's a lovely gift isn't it!!? - making a huge joint commitment without seeking your partner's consent first!!

If he really wants to challenge himself he should make a programme about body dysmorphia, something he really should be trying to deal with. His seething hatred of fat people (there's oodles of it on display here) is becoming tedious and alarming.

Oh, and I love some of what Gervais does - I even liked the Brent film so I still dutifully trudge through much of his stuff (I draw the line at Derek!)- but this is dreadful and I’m amazed at how well received it’s been. Anyone else seen it - thoughts?

Agaliarept - 14 Mar 2019 14:47:25 (#2 of 88)

Not sure if you hate After Life or Gervais more.

I've only watched the the first two episodes mind but as someone who's had a lifelong companionship with the black dog I wasn't particularly offended.

I'm assuming the whole point of the show will be his redemption at the end of the series. Sure it's not exactly a BBC 4 documentary on coping with grief and loss but if that's what you were expecting maybe you were in the wrong place?

As for the pre death pranks he shared with his partner, that's not exactly uncommon and says more about how much time Gervais spends online watching Youtube and Twitter videos.

It's an ok show from what I've seen so far.

If he really wants to challenge himself he should make a programme about body dysmorphia

Who claimed he really wants to challenge himself? If anything he is the sort of actor/writer that stays very much in his comfort zone.

Oh and I loved Derek so I may not have a clue what I'm on about.

MorrisMitchener - 14 Mar 2019 14:58:22 (#3 of 88)

Yeah, clearly, many like it.

But the constant punching down - he can be better than that: witness Extras - he gets his idol, David Bowie, to be in the show who then composes an amazingly insulting (and catchy!) song about him as he sits there and takes it! That's hilarious, Gervais at his best. There is nothing like that here.

AlanII - 14 Mar 2019 14:58:39 (#4 of 88)

I thoroughly enjoyed both this and Derek, Funny and, in places, quite touching, the two of them.

AlanII - 14 Mar 2019 15:00:01 (#5 of 88)

I'd say Extras was indeed his best work. Many times I was helpless with laughter at that.

Agaliarept - 14 Mar 2019 15:04:52 (#6 of 88)

But the constant punching down - he can be better than that: witness Extras - he gets his idol, David Bowie, to be in the show who then composes an amazingly insulting (and catchy!) song about him as he sits there and takes it! That's hilarious, Gervais at his best.

I get your points, it clearly isn't him at his best but then as Alan says there have been some lovely moments in After Life so far.

No writer will constantly better everything they've done though. We can't expect Extras every time.

FrankieTeardrop - 14 Mar 2019 15:08:59 (#7 of 88)

"Tubby little fat man"

SaffronSunrise - 14 Mar 2019 15:36:01 (#8 of 88)

First 4 really good, last 2 fell away badly.

I really didn't like what happened with the man living in the garage & G character's part in it.

MorrisMitchener - 14 Mar 2019 15:39:35 (#9 of 88)

It's near impossible to identify what Jensen's nurse character could possibly see in him.

Agaliarept - 14 Mar 2019 15:43:11 (#10 of 88)

It's near impossible to identify what Jensen's nurse character could possibly see in him.

I do have to admit, even only 2 episodes in, I'm struggling to buy them as a couple.

I'd put it down to Kerry Godliman being so amazing in Derek and not being able to disconnect her from that role.

Forgot for a minute that it has Joe Wilkinson in it. Love his scenes so far.

MorrisMitchener - 14 Mar 2019 15:48:31 (#11 of 88)

There are a few good supporting turns, Wilkinson is pretty good fun. Tom Basden, creator of the criminally underrated Plebs, is given nothing funny to do though, no fun at all. A waste.

ottoline07 - 14 Mar 2019 22:27:26 (#12 of 88)

I agree with much of what you said Morris and as I said on the Netflix thread I hated it more once I'd got to the end. The 'redemption' is totally unearned and makes no sense (where is the evidence he's good or kind?) all the other 'characters' simply exist as bait to Gervais's obsessions.

Stuart Heritage makes a list;

Here are five things that happen during the first episode of the new Ricky Gervais Netflix series After Life:

He calls a stranger a “fat, hairy, nosy cocksucker”. He calls a child a “tubby little ginger cunt”. He calls his colleague “fat boy”. In a video recorded before her death, his wife calls him a “fat, lazy, self-pitying lump”. Towards the end of the episode, his dead wife pops up again to call him a “fat twat”.

He needs a co-writer otherwise he just runs amok being Gervais on his tedious hobby horses. I have misanthropic leanings, it's not something I'm proud of and he shouldn't be either.

ottoline07 - 14 Mar 2019 22:30:08 (#13 of 88)

And as you said use depression and grief as a cover for his hate.

Arjuna - 14 Mar 2019 22:36:26 (#14 of 88)

I thought that with Derek, Otto but apparently RG isn't too worried about how many people like his stuff any more especially as he now has this mega deal with netflix. I think they mainly want his live shows and aren't minded too much about his hobby horse.

ottoline07 - 14 Mar 2019 22:45:53 (#15 of 88)

So they're just going to take all his crap? I'm just a bit taken aback by how many people seem to love it.

Arjuna - 14 Mar 2019 22:50:54 (#16 of 88)

Ricky Gervais' recent Netflix special, "Humanity," is the first of two specials in a deal the actor-comedian reportedly signed for $40 million.

https://www.businessinsider.com/comedians-netflix-paid-millions-ricky-gervais-new-special-2018-3?r=US&IR=T

After Life doesn't even get a mention. I guess Netflix aren't too worried one way or another about it and it'll probably make enough to cover its costs.

bossab2 - 14 Mar 2019 22:54:02 (#17 of 88)

I thought The Office was pretty dull.

So I doubt he's improved.

Arjuna - 14 Mar 2019 23:04:26 (#18 of 88)

I doubt anything could be as bad as David Brent: Life on the Road

Antimatter - 15 Mar 2019 08:57:26 (#19 of 88)

I liked it. A lot.

Splattsville - 15 Mar 2019 19:30:50 (#20 of 88)

I liked it a lot too.

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