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Started by foxybrown on Jun 11, 2019 11:02:06 PM
The Years and Years Thread

Tuesdays bbc one

Come and discuss our near future

Dystopia or utopia?

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foxybrown - 11 Jun 2019 23:04:52 (#1 of 38)

Poor Viktor . The slaphead dad is going to pay next week

NotACloggie - 12 Jun 2019 08:57:45 (#2 of 38)

I hope so.

YogiMeerfield - 12 Jun 2019 11:50:58 (#3 of 38)

Final episode next week, isn't it?

ottoline07 - 12 Jun 2019 14:38:43 (#4 of 38)

Yes. I've watched and loved many things I've watched in the last 6 months, (Succession being probably my favourite) and this is right up there at the top. I hope RTD gets lots of awards for this. It's managed to be funny, scary, pertinent, and most of all get my 17 year old watching TV with me at the same time and then talking about the programme after. This never happens.

ottoline07 - 12 Jun 2019 14:40:31 (#5 of 38)

I'm really hoping trans daughter gets to use her powers for good next week. I think Stephen is a really horrible person, Mr O thinks just a flawed, weak regular ole human being.

carterbrandon - 12 Jun 2019 16:10:01 (#6 of 38)

Before the 'events' he was a rich city boy. He's spent a lot longer being scruple-free than he has being downtrodden. He's just done it at arms length. Now he's doing it up close with his nasty new boss.

ottoline07 - 12 Jun 2019 19:24:52 (#7 of 38)

Yes I agree.

ottoline07 - 12 Jun 2019 19:25:39 (#8 of 38)

We were wondering whether the ending would be hopeful, bleak or uncertain. I'm hoping as I always do for the third option.

kamo33 - 12 Jun 2019 21:02:39 (#9 of 38)

I worry for transhuman daughter. I assume everything she’s seeing and doing is being monitored, why else would the Home Office pay for it? The bleakest ending is probably that the implant is such a success that we’re all forced to have them. For national security purposes and to stop children watching porn on their phones.

ottoline07 - 12 Jun 2019 21:35:35 (#10 of 38)

why else would the Home Office pay for it?

That's what I was wondering.

foxybrown - 12 Jun 2019 22:43:03 (#11 of 38)

I assume everything she’s seeing and doing is being monitored, why else would the Home Office pay for it?

I assumed that too. But maybe it’s like a cycle loan?

And what happened to the friend who had the dodgy eye transplant? Poor cow got forgotten about quick

kamo33 - 13 Jun 2019 00:41:16 (#12 of 38)

A few of the younger characters seem to be glossed over, Celeste’s other daughter is obviously doing well and all we know about Lincoln’s older brother is that he’s either sitting at the kitchen table or skiving off school in the park. I don’t even know those two characters’ names.

I don’t really get a feel for how time is passing or the characters are ageing either - gran was 90 in the opening episode which must mean she’s about to turn 100.

But those are probably the only criticisms I have - it reminds me a lot of Threads, which also followed a working class family as the world went to hell. I wish they’d do an 80s style round table discussion at the end with academics describing how these things could happen and what we can do about them.

Ginmonkey - 13 Jun 2019 10:26:17 (#13 of 38)

Gran seems too young - the adult children are meant to be in their late thirties to mid forties at the start of the programme. The actress who plays gran looks more like she should be the mid seventies mother of early middle aged children than a great grandmother heading for her hundreth birthday.

I assume it was a plot device as they need a family matriarch but also wanted the emotional back story a dead mother and absent father would bring.

foxybrown - 13 Jun 2019 13:23:41 (#14 of 38)

I thought she was the mother until last week.

YogiMeerfield - 13 Jun 2019 14:37:45 (#15 of 38)

I actually like Stephen as a character. He's probably one of the more authentic characters in it - having an affair, being made redundant etc. Also, it's natural to assign blame when you've lost a loved one. It's just while others are blaming themselves, he's lashing out at Victor.

DonaldB - 13 Jun 2019 20:02:33 (#16 of 38)

"why else would the Home Office pay for it?"

I understood it was sponsorship, so she could work for them. That doesn't mean they're not monitoring her as well.

DonaldB - 13 Jun 2019 20:06:06 (#17 of 38)

I've really enjoyed this, though it is painted in pretty broad brushstokes. Also, it reminds me of the Dr Who episode Turn Left (everything that can go wrong in Britain does and we end up with martial rule and concentration camps). But I guess in this one there'll be no timey-wimey at the end to make it all not have really happened.

ShugAvery - 13 Jun 2019 20:59:54 (#18 of 38)

We had exactly the same thought re Turn Left. Mr A said that RTD has written this before.

HouseOfLametta - 13 Jun 2019 21:00:59 (#19 of 38)

Or has he?

carterbrandon - 13 Jun 2019 21:29:27 (#20 of 38)

As opposed to his 'Children of Earth', which Nigel Kneale had written before.

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