I don't know if you watched the first season, but unReal is starting again on Lifetime channel. Kind of fun/horrifying, it was written by someone who used to work on scripted reality shows. I wonder if all the good /real material got used up in season 1 though.

Yes I did watch that and not its going to be very edgy next series with a racial edge. I did enjoy it.

I'm now reminded of something I watched where they spoke about seating for daytime audiences in the US, that you were seated according to attractiveness with the less attractive and mostly non white people were put at the back

On holiday I saw the first one and a half episodes of season 16 of Project Runway yesterday, they have a variety of sizes of models this series. One contestant moaned that she'd never dressed a curvy woman before she was a uk 12 at best. The judges were appalled.

Actually now I think about it there was no Nina Garcia, Zac Posen was on the panel

KKR - I've got a couple of episodes of Unreal to watch when I get back but what did you think about it

I'm not sure UnReal actually went anywhere with the racial angle in the end.

Watched allstars.. It was fine, I missed most the seasons these guys were in so had no history and didn't know who to hate. Isaac didn't fancy anyone so the judging was way more sane.

Yes UnReal copped out in the end

Lifetime seemed to miss out about 3 or 4 series of project Runway. I spoilered myself and saw that Dmitry won. I don't think it's fair past winners are in it, they've already won a load of money to start their business

They also need to stop showing that Tim Gunn favourite clips show, I must have seen it about four times

I think I've seen that Ironing in the doorway clip more times than I've ironed a shirt in the last year.

Also, surely we're due another cycle of ANTM? I bet Rita would have cracked it out in half the time.

Poor dumped Rita. I thought she was ok

We'll look back fondly at her once Mama Tyrant is back in the saddle. Google informs me that they are currently shooting the first Tyra cycle. They are keeping the rest of the panel, including bitter little peroxide pixie Drew.

How many RTV shows has our Rita been booted off now?

BINTM is back October 19th.

Also Lifetime are going to Runway 16 next week (current season in the US), after fannying around with filler episodes the past few weeks.

Yes the series nine recap has been on at least once. There's a good few series that lifetime did not show in the uk, instead of repeating stuff, show that .

I saw the first couple of the new season while on holiday. The models are supposedly diverse in size and age

Well the models are diverse compared to the industry norm. I quite like the model commenting on the clothes/design phase.

So far the series is ok - no real personalities to love or hate yet. Admittedly I'd probably stop the twins drinking any coffee to see if they stop running round like demented fraggles.

I did cringe this week when one of them sewed their finger... that was like all my Home Economics lesson nightmares in one place.

BNTM is back this week on Thursday. New male model as judge, and they've possibly binned Hillary.

I don't like those twins. They are damn annoying

I haven't watched much of the last couple of BNTMs, the girls weren't great looking IMO

Mychael Knight, a finalist from the early years of Project Runway has died aged 39

Am I the only one watching BNTM?

http://bntm.co.uk/the_girls/So far I'm liking Ivy (has a Jodie Kidd/Kate Moss vibe in some pictures), Shaunaugh and Cirrah.

How low rent is it though? Having the elimination room upstairs in the model house.

The nits outbreak also adds to the low rent vibe.

Sorry not watching, I can't get the enthusiasm for the British one. Have they really got nits? That's truly a first

Thanks for the heads (haha) up, Mrs T will be pleased to see this on the Sky box.

I can't get the enthusiasm for the British one.

I can see why, it's the worst of all worlds to be honest. Below par girls with below par rewards. At least OZntm has cracking looking sheilas.

Have they really got nits?

Totally awkward moment in their first 'proper' photoshoot in the house when Max (new judge - much less up himself than the last male model) had to say the hair stylists had spotted one girl with nits, so they were all having to have treatment. Much wailing followed.