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Started by RankBajin on Oct 29, 2011 2:57:01 PM
Sir Jimmy Savile dies aged 84

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16099015

So:

  • Kiddly fiddler?
  • Corpse toucher?
  • Other? (please specify)
  • All of the above?

StakludKar - 15 Oct 2021 01:07:01 (#17001 of 17198)

Popbitch:

As the first pictures of Steve Coogan on set as Jimmy Savile emerge, one Popbitch reader was reminded of the time they attended a Q&A event with Armando Iannucci, around the release of The Death Of Stalin.

They were chosen to pose the final question of the night and, curious about all the inventive insults that characters hurled on The Thick Of It and Veep, asked: "Can you give an example of something that you or the writers came up with that was considered just too far?"

Iannucci replied that The Thick Of It was only censored once by the BBC lawyers. The line they put the kibosh on? Malcolm Tucker saying: "That's inevitable. It's as inevitable as what they'll find in Jimmy Savile's basement after he's dead."

Ginmonkey - 15 Oct 2021 07:49:28 (#17002 of 17198)

Not surprised.

I have a fair few friends who work in the media and dark jokes about Saville were circulating for years. It was hidden in plain sight.

FleurDuMal - 15 Oct 2021 08:54:58 (#17003 of 17198)

Many people in the Leeds area were aware of his behaviour.

One example - at his favourite haunt, The Flying Pizza, he always had the table under the open-tread staircase, so he could look up women’s skirts as they went upstairs.

Staff at the LGI distrusted him thoroughly.

BasilSeal - 15 Oct 2021 09:57:27 (#17004 of 17198)

The ideas that Savile was a paedophile and indulged in necrophilia was widely discussed on GUT. i'd always thought there was an element of truth to them, but they were perhaps exaggerated. there was obviously something a bit wrong about him, you could go to YouTube and watch him sexually assault a 14 year old Nolan sister live on TotP, but fucking dead people? surely just hyperbole?

Of course the irony is that if anything his crimes went beyond even the most lurid things Hank posted about him back in the day. the things being said about him on GUT were actually true, so had to have come from people having spoken to others about what he was doing, people knew, and were unable or unwilling to do anything about it. If people knew, then it stands to reason that he must have been caught doing these things multiple times.

The logical conclusion is that people in authority were told things like 'nurse ***** walked in on Jimmy Savile fucking a corpse in the morgue again' but instead of doing something about it they thought 'yeah, but he does raise a lot of money for charity'

You'd wonder who the fuck would do that, but the answer, apparently, is lots of people.

JohnIlly - 15 Oct 2021 09:35:14 (#17005 of 17198)

he does raise a lot of money for charity

We can add his popularisation of sponsored walks to his crimes.

RosyLovelady - 15 Oct 2021 10:38:09 (#17006 of 17198)

Hear hear.

Of course, his own walking was eased by the helpful presence of a chauffeur-driven car on stand-by.

Tenesmus - 15 Oct 2021 12:45:34 (#17007 of 17198)

The other thing he's done is give The Right (that normally couldn't care less about assaults on women) something to bash the BBC with. Look what our licence fee is paying for!!11!

MysteryDate - 15 Oct 2021 13:53:11 (#17008 of 17198)

Yes, he's caused untold damage to the BBC.

Tenesmus - 15 Oct 2021 12:58:52 (#17009 of 17198)

So has anyone at the BBC actually admitted they knew (not suspected, but knew) what was going on but just kept their heads down?

MysteryDate - 15 Oct 2021 14:01:33 (#17010 of 17198)

Not since the early days after Savile died. I think a few people said they knew (but I don't think they meant they'd witnessed anything, more that they'd heard too many rumours to ignore).

StakludKar - 15 Oct 2021 15:06:17 (#17011 of 17198)

Guy interviewed on the itv prog said he told him what he was doing was wrong and he didn't want to work with him. But said he had no proof of what he did (Savile had bragged about having 3 14 year olds in his campervan that was parked on BBC grounds that morning). It was just his word. So he didn't report it.

Ginmonkey - 15 Oct 2021 15:08:42 (#17012 of 17198)

Thing is Saville's MO, like a lot of abusers was to go for people that society would not believe or worst still did not care about.

whitbreadtrophy - 15 Oct 2021 15:27:41 (#17013 of 17198)

The BBC isn't blameless in this but they are not an executive arm of government. The real damage was done by various people in authority who gave him access to vulnerable people. Or, as with senior police in Yorkshire, had solid evidence but for whatever reason covered it up.

For example, even if the rumours were just that, there was no logical reason for Edwina Currie to personally approve Savile being given a master key and all-area access to Broadmoor. Likewise, the idea even in the early 70s that he is allowed the level access requested to vulnerable girls at Duncroft reform school is still repulsive.

And any senior tabloid hack who was active between 1960 and 2010 who gunned for the BBC over Savile, but still helped promote his career and reported glowingly over his charity work while he was alive, should STFU.

AdonisBlue - 15 Oct 2021 15:29:04 (#17014 of 17198)

Yeah especially that last paragraph.

LemonGrass - 15 Oct 2021 15:36:50 (#17015 of 17198)

Thing is Saville's MO, like a lot of abusers was to go for people that society would not believe or worst still did not care about.

This. See whitbread's comment about Duncroft reform school.

AlanII - 15 Oct 2021 16:23:36 (#17016 of 17198)

Excellent post, Whitbread.

RosyLovelady - 15 Oct 2021 18:17:32 (#17017 of 17198)

I seem to remember Savile appearing on HIGNFY one time, and Paul Merton niggling away at him about what Savile called the "young ladies" of Duncroft.

AdonisBlue - 15 Oct 2021 18:47:27 (#17018 of 17198)

I think that was the fake HIGNFY script.

MysteryDate - 15 Oct 2021 19:14:14 (#17019 of 17198)

#17013 agreed, excellent post whitbread

The amount of access Savile received as a non-professional in the areas he accessed beggars belief. And no amount of 'they were different times' covers it.

In my view and experience, the wrongdoings in these 'different times' were still wrong then, and viewed as such by many. The difference is that the people (men, usually) concerned operated in the belief that they were 'allowed' (owed/entitled) to act in such ways, safe in the knowledge that their conduct would rarely be scrutinised, let alone openly or publicly challenged.

RosyLovelady - 16 Oct 2021 08:11:21 (#17020 of 17198)

I must be a victim of mass false memory syndrome. I have never read any fake HIGNFY script because I haven't read any HGNFY scripts at all unless some Evil Nexus gave it to me to read subliminally.

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