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Started by RankBajin on Oct 29, 2011 2:57:01 PM
Sir Jimmy Savile dies aged 84


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  • All of the above?

solomongursky - 27 Oct 2021 15:09:26 (#17081 of 17198)

Very little of the humour in that was what you might call affectionate.

The Thai characters were nakedly racist.

moto748 - 27 Oct 2021 15:10:15 (#17082 of 17198)

Or the worse sin of never being funny?

carterbrandon - 27 Oct 2021 16:13:55 (#17083 of 17198)

They presumably thought they could operate the 'we're urbane post-alternative comedians, not like that Bernard Manning' defence.

Trouble is, David Walliams is patently a sleazy, Presidents-Club-compereing, nasty piece of work.

FrankieTeardrop - 27 Oct 2021 15:17:32 (#17084 of 17198)

It is odd how Vic and Bob still seem to get a pass for the Otis and Marvin sketches.

Perhaps it is the fact the sketch was affectionate, or, they were dressed up to look like specific people, rather than generic "black people" - a bit like drawing lines on the face to look like Lovejoy.

Whether they should've got away with it is another matter - I wonder if they regret the sketches now?

BasilSeal - 27 Oct 2021 16:49:09 (#17085 of 17198)

Sadly it's not right though. It wasn't their risk to judge, and it only works on the basis that NO ONE except marginalised weirdos held overtly racist beliefs. This is plainly not the case. They just went quiet for a while.

they went quiet for a while but they're making up for it now.

I tend to agree with Carter that the little britain stuff was just nasty, they had a go at many marginalised groups, but the trans Thai character was the nadir.

AlanII - 27 Oct 2021 16:16:12 (#17086 of 17198)

Yes, it's amazing how almost all of that has dated so quickly.

solomongursky - 27 Oct 2021 16:19:30 (#17087 of 17198)

Laughing at people simply for being different, which is what I hear Walliams' children's books are like.

Oldbathrobe1 - 27 Oct 2021 17:31:27 (#17088 of 17198)

Vic and Bob stopped blacking up and did Otis and Marvin with just the hair and puppet bodies.

BasilSeal - 27 Oct 2021 18:22:05 (#17089 of 17198)

Laughing at people simply for being different, which is what I hear Walliams' children's books are like.

Jack Monroe had a go at them for just this reason on twitter a while back with predictable results.

There was a greater acceptance then of comedy that punched down, i remember watching it at the time and while it seems quite obviously offensive now i confess i didn't see it so much then, i remember my girlfriend at the time watching it with me and saying 'isn't this just making fun of poor and disabled people?', and me not being able to say much in it's defence because, well, it was.

AdonisBlue - 27 Oct 2021 20:36:48 (#17090 of 17198)

Hated most of Little Britain, especially the later stuff with the fat suit women. It was just lazy, crap comedy.

But I would fight for people's right to make crap, even offensive comedy. This tendency amongst the new left to censor is not only deeply disturbing it is a major reason they aren't in power in many countries anymore.

HouseOfLametta - 27 Oct 2021 20:40:15 (#17091 of 17198)

<the new left siren>

pmcblonde - 27 Oct 2021 20:42:19 (#17092 of 17198)

I never liked Bo Selecta, Little Britain, League of Gentlemen etc - not a fan of the grotesque

AdonisBlue - 27 Oct 2021 21:04:26 (#17093 of 17198)

#17091 Attempt to censor siren

Ebadlun - 27 Oct 2021 21:10:50 (#17094 of 17198)

It's all people talk about on the doorstep.

Zugunruhe1 - 27 Oct 2021 21:22:19 (#17095 of 17198)

I loved the first two series of League of Gentlemen. Little Britain was shit and kind of played up to the tabloid narrative of the time regarding the so-called feckless and undeserving poor.

moto748 - 27 Oct 2021 22:58:10 (#17096 of 17198)

I never liked Bo Selecta, Little Britain, League of Gentlemen etc - not a fan of the grotesque

Likewise. And that comes with the obvious caveat that I haven't seen a great deal of any of them. But enough, I think, to decide they weren't for me. I'm not going to campaign to have them thrown off the air, though. Is anyone?

Ebadlun - 28 Oct 2021 00:38:06 (#17097 of 17198)

The first series of LoG was brilliant, when they had actual jokes, but after that they seemed to be going for the grotesque over the funny.

Bo Selecta was literally aimed at pissed students.

Harry and Paul was a rather curious mishmash of brilliant (especially when parodying earlier eras with impressive attention to detail) and embarrassing - and their Benefits sketch was really punching down, a charmless reworking of Wayne and Waynetta Slob.

thePiMan - 28 Oct 2021 08:54:39 (#17098 of 17198)

Paul Whitehouse was the talent in that pairing, Harry Enfield is just a charmless twat.

AdonisBlue - 28 Oct 2021 09:17:08 (#17099 of 17198)

I'm not sure I'd lump in League of Gentlemen's early stuff with Little Britain. As said above layer it became crap though.

Leigh Frances I've never been a fan of and it's great to see him relugated to TV bettings adverts.

Sabacious - 28 Oct 2021 08:24:58 (#17100 of 17198)

Little Britain had its moments, mostly the more grotesque the better, but it has to be done carefully. League of Gentlemen did it very well. I’m not sure the format is ideal though, it’s not a touch on the unsettling mad grotesque spectacle of a Tiger Lillies performance.

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