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Started by RankBajin on Oct 29, 2011 2:57:01 PM
Sir Jimmy Savile dies aged 84

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16099015

So:

  • Kiddly fiddler?
  • Corpse toucher?
  • Other? (please specify)
  • All of the above?

CheBoludo - 20 Nov 2012 14:07:03 (#8461 of 17117)

Bercow's closed her twitter account. The last tweet from it suggests her account was hacked (it includes her password). Is this going to be used as a defence?

Bobthebuilder - 20 Nov 2012 14:09:18 (#8462 of 17117)

It seems wrong that McAlpine,once having received his grovelling public apologies and ensured that he has been established as a non-paedophile par excellence in the minds of the Britsh public, should then feel the need to continue and make a fucking killing out of the paedophilia scandal.

breakfast - 20 Nov 2012 14:11:28 (#8463 of 17117)

#8455

That's what I was expecting from the political parties.

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CheBoludo - 20 Nov 2012 14:13:12 (#8465 of 17117)

I get the impression that McAlpine and his lawyer have completely misjudged this. He was initially only going to take a token amount from the BBC. He would have had some sympathy from most people (not me). Now he's blown it.

Lawlsie - 20 Nov 2012 14:14:35 (#8466 of 17117)

Lots of people's Twitter accounts get hacked. I often get DMs telling me there's something horrible about me on YouTube or whatever and when I contact the Tweeter they say their account's been hacked and they never sent me that DM!

Bobthebuilder - 20 Nov 2012 14:15:50 (#8467 of 17117)

I mean isn't there a non-libel clause in the law. What does McAlpine want. People were whispering that he was a paedophile, and now they are screaming and shouting that he isn't one.

There is no longer even the slightest dent in his reputation.

Macpaddy - 20 Nov 2012 14:16:48 (#8468 of 17117)

Every Twitter user he's intent on suing should take it to court and then to the European courts. It would be years before he got a penny.

CheBoludo - 20 Nov 2012 14:21:46 (#8469 of 17117)

That doesn't surprise me, Lawlsie. I worked for a (dodgy) social networking company a few years ago. The techies there could access anybody's Facebook account (including everything they'd deleted) using the standard Facebook developer APIs (software interface) with a few minor hacks.

springplease - 20 Nov 2012 14:47:04 (#8470 of 17117)

I think we can be pretty sure that about 98% of British women aren't.



Nope.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/taboo-tolerance/female-sexual-abuse-the-untold-story-of-societys-last-taboo-1767688.html

Bobthebuilder - 20 Nov 2012 14:53:56 (#8471 of 17117)

Well, 5% of abusers are women according to that article, so lets change that and up it and say that we can be sure that 90% of sexual abusers are men.

Leftie - 20 Nov 2012 15:20:42 (#8472 of 17117)

With regards to that article about women, I think it's part of a bigger picture. Often female crime gets downplayed I think. Or excused. Or accepted but women get lighter sentences.

Coslefacteur - 20 Nov 2012 15:48:24 (#8473 of 17117)

I'm pretty sure that you're completely wrong about female crime being downplayed and, once they appear in court, women are more likely to get a harsher sentence than a comparable man for a comparable crime. Difficult to assess these things of course. Here's a link to be going on with

http://publicpolicyexchange.co.uk/events/CL11-PPE.php

Macpaddy - 20 Nov 2012 15:51:25 (#8474 of 17117)

I think you'll find that Leftie is perfectly correct and that women do, by and large, get lighter sentences.

Coslefacteur - 20 Nov 2012 15:53:10 (#8475 of 17117)

From that link:

Recent research highlights that women and girls tend to be convicted for less serious offences than men, with 44% of women jailed for theft and handling offences compared to 28% of men.

solomongursky - 20 Nov 2012 15:53:48 (#8476 of 17117)

Women killers are treated much harsher by both the press and the courts, I think.

jesjet11 - 20 Nov 2012 16:16:53 (#8477 of 17117)

well in this case....

http://bit.ly/T1tub2

was dangerous and was like a "princess ... who just wants to be 'rescued' by a man

JohnIlly - 20 Nov 2012 16:20:01 (#8478 of 17117)

If 5% of abusers are female then there are 19 times more men than women who are abusers. This means that Bob's guess that 2% of females are abusers is actually rather high.

Unless 38% of men are abusers, of course.

Even if 10% of men are abusers it means that 99.5% of women are not.

springplease - 20 Nov 2012 16:34:20 (#8479 of 17117)

Few people doubt girls and women are capable of theft or even murder, so conviction rates will reflect that.

But until the last decade, most people, including police and judges, thought as Bobthebuilder,that only a very rare few women sexually abused children. With such societal denial, few victims in the past spoke up. Women often abuse very young children. That too has led to it being harder to identify and try.

The result has been a very low conviction rate, That is changing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/oct/04/uk-female-child-sex-offenders

Once almost unreported, even the media has started reporting on female sexual abusers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/80711
40/Female-care-worker-guilty-of-sexually-abusing-baby-in-Colin-Blanchard-paedophile-ring.html


http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-muncie-woman-molesting-baby-police-muncie-woman-arrested-for-molesting-baby-girl-20111202,0,2238956.column

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012
/09/04/mom-sentenced-for-sex-with-baby.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2188333/Mother-29-boyfriend-62-repeatedly-raped-baby-birth-18-months-old.html

CheBoludo - 20 Nov 2012 17:42:56 (#8480 of 17117)

Topical.

Female Lawyer Who Works For Anti-Gay Organization Arrested For Having Sex With Female Minor

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2012/11/female-lawyer-who-works-for-anti-gay.html?m=1

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