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Started by RankBajin on Oct 29, 2011 2:57:01 PM
Sir Jimmy Savile dies aged 84

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16099015

So:

  • Kiddly fiddler?
  • Corpse toucher?
  • Other? (please specify)
  • All of the above?

Brunothecat - 25 Nov 2012 12:23:45 (#8601 of 17320)

You obviously have a lot to learn about the MSM.

The blame game is the only feature of modern society in which the "trickle down" nonsense applied to economics works perfectly.

col2001 - 25 Nov 2012 12:31:50 (#8602 of 17320)

Hah - good point, Bruno.

Lawlsie - 26 Nov 2012 10:36:16 (#8603 of 17320)

Currie is claiming Savile was given keys to Broadmoor long before her time. Says he charmed all politicians including Harold Wilson and Ted Heath!

That seems hard to credit to me. As John says upthread, he wasn't national treasure in the 60s. He was regarded as a bit of a weirdo. His celebrity status became more assured in the 70s with Jim'll Fix It.

Edwina is desperately trying to distance herself from this. It's utterly shameful but not all that surprising.

tasselhoff - 26 Nov 2012 10:38:12 (#8604 of 17320)

It's utterly shameful but not all that surprising.

Let's wait and see what the facts are first.

Lawlsie - 26 Nov 2012 10:41:03 (#8605 of 17320)

It's a fact that he was given keys to Broadmoor in 1988 Tass - I recall a TV programme from that year. It's a fact that he was made head of the taskforce there. It's also a fact that she was the health minister at the time.

tasselhoff - 26 Nov 2012 10:53:54 (#8606 of 17320)

OK, fair enough. Is there any information on who authorised it? I feel some minion may get it in the neck for this.

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Lawlsie - 26 Nov 2012 10:56:53 (#8609 of 17320)

Edwina says she can't remember! Which is odd really because she kept a diary during her time as an MP so strange this seems not to have been recorded or rememebered.

Kenneth Clarke, who was the secretary of state for health at the time, also says he can't remember.

Very odd. You'd have thought putting a celebrity in charge of running a psychiatric hospital housing the most dangerous criminals is something you'd remember doing. I remember the programme and remember thinking it a bit odd. This was a bit before the time of taking people with absolutely no experience of an industry and putting them in charge of it as a way of shaking it up.

Policywatcher - 26 Nov 2012 10:57:05 (#8610 of 17320)

I'd rather wait. There's a story doing the rounds that the instruction to allow it came straight from No 10; if true, it would be a rather more satisfying target.

Lawlsie - 26 Nov 2012 10:57:35 (#8611 of 17320)

Yes I've heard that too Policy but I've no idea if it's true.

CheBoludo - 26 Nov 2012 10:58:58 (#8612 of 17320)

Currie is claiming Savile was given keys to Broadmoor long before her time. Says he charmed all politicians including Harold Wilson and Ted Heath!

He was definitely a mate of Ted Heath. I've read rumours of his friendship with Wilson, but nothing substantial.

Lawlsie - 26 Nov 2012 11:03:30 (#8613 of 17320)

Well whatever, the fact remains that a fairly recent government put a celebrity in charge of running a hospital which housed some very dangerous psychopathic criminals.

CheBoludo - 26 Nov 2012 11:03:53 (#8614 of 17320)

Savile was very popular in Jersey. He considered it his second home. I believe the Duchess lived there for a while. All road leads to Haute de la Garonne.

Savile - Jersey 1969 Childrens Hospital:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj2aFMmKKB4

Leftie - 26 Nov 2012 11:07:18 (#8615 of 17320)

MSM?

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CheBoludo - 26 Nov 2012 11:16:37 (#8617 of 17320)

I don't know if he had the keys to Broadmoor before Currie and CLARKE appointed him to head the task force in 1988, but he was already part of the furniture there. I've even seen suggestions that he was working as a go-between for Ronnie Kray's business interests (including paedophelia rings) on the outside.

Lawlsie - 26 Nov 2012 11:20:08 (#8618 of 17320)

I'm sure he was a regular at Broadmoor before 88 but it was that year he was put in charge of a taskforce for six months to look at ways of overhauling the place.

Clips from the documentary about that were shown on recent programmes about Savile. Be nice if they could find the original and broadcast it.

SyrioForel - 26 Nov 2012 11:25:37 (#8619 of 17320)

"He was definitely a mate of Ted Heath."

What a load of shite. What evidence do you have for this? What exactly constitutes being "a mate"? Being the sort of self-important twat that Savile undoubtedly was - he did anything to meet people in power - and no doubt met Ted Heath - that doesn't mean they were "mates".

"I've seen suggestions...." - from other tin-foil-hatted wingnuts on the internet no doubt.

You're almost as big a perv as old Jimbo. Getting all aroused by the thought of secret paedo rings involving Tory politicians.

CheBoludo - 26 Nov 2012 11:30:12 (#8620 of 17320)

Calm down, sunshine. Heath appeared on one of Savile's shows. I think it was Clunk Click. At the time that was fairly unheard of.

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