Crikey, when people starting mentioning the Krays, it's getting like a "Hitler" moment.

I think this thread has ended now.

> SyrioForel - 26 Nov 2012 11:25:37 ( #8619 of 8619)

> "I've seen suggestions...." - from other tin-foil-hatted wingnuts on the internet no doubt.

No, pretty sure it will have been a mainstream media article somewhere.

There have been many written on the subject, which makes finding the specific one with the allegation tricky. I leave the conspiracy sites for others.

> You're almost as big a perv as old Jimbo.

FUCK OFF.

> Getting all aroused by the thought of secret paedo rings involving Tory politicians.

I've suggested no such thing - merely that negligence ran from the top.

Your attempt to portray this as conspiracy theory and describing me as "aroused" and "a perv" is libellous.

If you can't take part in this debate without accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being a pervert, tinfoil hatted, and so on, I suggest you find some place where you can whine about how dreadful it is that Labour Types are trying to gain political advantage, without fear of any disagreement. Your local CON club should do fine.

Getting all aroused by the thought of secret paedo rings involving Tory politicians.

Don't be daft. Morrison is linked to the North Wales homes, he was seen there a few times.

As was Savile. But this kind of thing cuts across party lines. The Krays were involved with paedophilia. Boothby, a Tory, was in it it up to his neck. As was Driberg (Labour). The Labour party's lawyers covered for Boothby. And then you have the Liberal Cyril Smith.

"Heath appeared on one of Savile's shows."

So that makes him "a mate"? Crap - it makes him a politician wanting to go on a TV show to try and gain popularity.

Interesting 1997 Channel 4 documentary - Krays Lords of the Underworld:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DB1Kdz28ws

Extraordinary business.

Can it be much longer before one of the protagonists mentions Spiny Norman?

"Your attempt to portray this as conspiracy theory and describing me as "aroused" and "a perv" is libellous."

You really are a comedian aren't you.

"Libellous" - now there's a big word for a moron like you. A real legal eagle. You'll be making legal history - being libelled on an anonymous talkboard - you mentally deficient goatfucker.

You and your fellow fuckwits were clearly on the point of wetting your collective nappies with excitement when McAlpine was being falsely accused, and now you're all driving yourselves into a tumescent frenzy with the thought of pervs in every nook and cranny you can think of. Just the same as McCarthy and his "Reds under the Bed"

Haha. What a tool.

Just what the place needed, another abusive mental defective with a big mouth.

> Brunothecat - 26 Nov 2012 12:07:28 ( #8630 of 8630)

> Just what the place needed, another abusive mental defective with a big mouth.

This one, I have encountered before.

He was nothing but an abusive idiot then, and he's nothing but an abusive idiot now.

The Krays were involved with paedophilia. Boothby, a Tory, was in it it up to his neck. As was Driberg (Labour).

The people mentioned were gay. They probably had sex with youths under the age of consent (which didn't actually exist at the time for homosexuals) but to call them paedophiles is to misunderstand the term.

Its a bizarre thing, though. You would expect any prosecutions to reflect the laws at the time any offences had been committed. So theoretically people could get prosecuted just for being homosexual if it happened long enough ago.

> You would expect any prosecutions to reflect the laws at the time any offences had been committed.

I understand where you're coming from, but it's not what I would expect.

The law generally works that something cannot normally be made retrospectively illegal, and that if something formerly illegal is made legal, no further prosecutions will be brought.

He was nothing but an abusive idiot then, and he's nothing but an abusive idiot now.

Your country expects needs you to do the right thing, pw.

Yes.

Tell him what a cunt he is, then he will think you've given him your attention at which point you pop him on ignore.

Works a treat.

Already done. The last bit, anyway.

Snap.

but it was that year he was put in charge of a taskforce for six months to look at ways of overhauling the place.



Did you watch the second ITV docu, Lawlsie? People keep repeating this, but he wasn't (apparently) 'put in charge' of the task-force at all. In fact his role was never clarified at all, a situation that seemed to suit the Broadmoor top brass (including the hapless big boss, himself put forward for the job on Savile's recommendation), and certainly suited Savile.

The stench of cover up is overwhelming. All this bollocks about Savile being covered because people were fiddling their timesheets looks like a diversion intended to limit scrutiny to junior levels.

The notion that a junior staff member is going to feel confident blowing the whistle on a celebrity appointee with politicians for friends is absurd even if they aren't fiddling their timesheet.