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Started by RankBajin on Oct 29, 2011 2:57:01 PM
Sir Jimmy Savile dies aged 84

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16099015

So:

  • Kiddly fiddler?
  • Corpse toucher?
  • Other? (please specify)
  • All of the above?

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FleurDuMal - 29 Oct 2011 14:57:37 (#1 of 17115)

Ah, a eulogy!

WilyCoyote - 29 Oct 2011 14:58:00 (#2 of 17115)

In many ways, he touched us all.

FleurDuMal - 29 Oct 2011 14:58:34 (#3 of 17115)

Speak for yourself! He never got his paws on me!

RankBajin - 29 Oct 2011 14:58:37 (#4 of 17115)

He's in heaven now with Michael Jackson.

FleurDuMal - 29 Oct 2011 14:59:05 (#5 of 17115)

Heaven?

tstaddon - 29 Oct 2011 14:59:30 (#6 of 17115)

Ok, who else here didn't get Jim to fix it?

RankBajin - 29 Oct 2011 14:59:55 (#7 of 17115)

Well, he was a devout Catholic.

Make of that what you will.

FleurDuMal - 29 Oct 2011 15:01:35 (#8 of 17115)

I'm sure if he was a devout Catholic, he didn't do any of those things you suggest in the thread header.

Piscineaste - 29 Oct 2011 15:02:01 (#9 of 17115)

< Whistles Nolan Sisters tune >

RankBajin - 29 Oct 2011 15:02:32 (#10 of 17115)

No Catholic would ever do such a thing.

Anyway, he will be remembered by many. Often with a shudder.

RankBajin - 29 Oct 2011 15:06:12 (#11 of 17115)

Remember him this way

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00740/S
NN2501Asutcliffe_740914a.jpg

RankBajin - 29 Oct 2011 15:08:20 (#12 of 17115)

Or touching up a 14 year old Coleen Nolan on TOTP in front of millions of viewers.

Piscineaste - 29 Oct 2011 15:09:44 (#13 of 17115)

Guess it made a change from touching up corpses of 14 year olds.

JollityFarm - 29 Oct 2011 15:12:44 (#14 of 17115)

I was surprised to hear this, it seemed like he was going to live forever.

Anyway, I await badtouch rumours from places on the internet other than here. Might be a couple of hours.

CaptainBlack - 29 Oct 2011 15:12:56 (#15 of 17115)

He was one of those people who always seemed to be the same age his entire life.

breakfast - 29 Oct 2011 15:14:04 (#16 of 17115)

I only have a second hand experience of Sir Jimmy (thank god). My mum took my grandma to a Leeds hospital for her appointment about a cataract operation. Sir Jimmy was in the waiting room and my mum felt that he was decidedly creepy. However the old ladies there seemed to enjoy his presence and being entertained by him.

That's a bit of a rubbish story isn't it.

Oh well.

MorningCloud - 29 Oct 2011 15:14:27 (#17 of 17115)

He raised around £40 million for charity over the years. Which is a lot more than I'm likely to do. About £40 million in fact...

Not that it excuses the "alleged" stuff, but still.

RunnyBabbit - 29 Oct 2011 15:15:30 (#18 of 17115)

He was very quiet in recent years.

Phone broke?

Sim'll fix it.

MorningCloud - 29 Oct 2011 15:15:41 (#19 of 17115)

I was surprised to hear this, it seemed like he was going to live forever.

The witch refused to share her blood.

Bensawbridge - 29 Oct 2011 15:16:49 (#20 of 17115)

I once saw him eating a fuddruckers burger with his mother

PrimePaon - 29 Oct 2011 15:17:12 (#21 of 17115)

Has anyone fucked him yet?

breakfast - 29 Oct 2011 15:17:35 (#22 of 17115)

Your mum.

MadamZsaZsa - 29 Oct 2011 15:17:54 (#23 of 17115)

His mum.

CaptainBlack - 29 Oct 2011 15:18:39 (#24 of 17115)

He and the Duchess can be together again at last.

MorningCloud - 29 Oct 2011 15:22:03 (#25 of 17115)

On twitter:

FilmFan1971 @hankinshaw My thoughts are with you at this difficult time.

@Hankinshaw I am going to drink until I puke

Piscineaste - 29 Oct 2011 15:23:24 (#26 of 17115)

Mate, you might want to delete the RL names there.

Piscineaste - 29 Oct 2011 15:24:00 (#27 of 17115)

Aah, you already did.

MorningCloud - 29 Oct 2011 15:27:02 (#28 of 17115)

#26 yeah, quickly realised i'd pasted them.

Another post on Twitter:

RIP SirJim A great man with nothing but love in his body.

JollityFarm - 29 Oct 2011 15:27:43 (#29 of 17115)

No organs or blood or stuff?

Electro - 29 Oct 2011 15:28:52 (#30 of 17115)

Now then, now then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WSsyfjytJA

tstaddon - 29 Oct 2011 15:29:28 (#31 of 17115)

This on Twitter:

Thank you for the tracksuits. An archive to be proud of.

Jacob_Richter - 29 Oct 2011 15:31:12 (#32 of 17115)

He was devoted to his mum.

RosyLovelady - 29 Oct 2011 15:33:19 (#33 of 17115)

Just like the Krays.

RosyLovelady - 29 Oct 2011 15:33:38 (#34 of 17115)

And Mark Thatcher.

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 15:34:52 (#35 of 17115)

D'you remember back in the 60's when he made that record "Ahab the Arab"? That suddenly came back to me

was he really a corpse toucher?

urbanspacemonkey - 29 Oct 2011 15:35:09 (#36 of 17115)

He claimed to have been the first DJ to use twin turntables, the entire hiphop community is in his debt.

Electro - 29 Oct 2011 15:36:12 (#37 of 17115)

He was a staunch supporter of Margaret Thatcher and spent 11 successive New Years with the former prime minister at Chequers!

http://gu.com/p/332vt/tw

RosyLovelady - 29 Oct 2011 15:39:29 (#38 of 17115)

I remember Ahab the Ayrab, LadyDi. It was a very stupid song, with racial stereotyping which was offensive even in those far-off times.

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 15:39:41 (#39 of 17115)

Wasn't he called in to talk to Charles and Di and try and stop them from divorcing?

I'd have jumped out of the window

MorningCloud - 29 Oct 2011 15:42:42 (#40 of 17115)

Wasn't he called in to talk to Charles and Di and try and stop them from divorcing?

It takes some imagination to think of SirJim as the answer to a failing marriage. Or perhaps we've misjudged him.

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 15:47:51 (#41 of 17115)

Perhaps the Queen misjudged him?

urbanspacemonkey - 29 Oct 2011 15:48:31 (#42 of 17115)

He fought over one hundred professional wrestling bouts losing nearly every one of them

MorningCloud - 29 Oct 2011 15:49:21 (#43 of 17115)

Let it all out, LadyDi. Tell us what really went on.. ;)

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LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 15:52:18 (#45 of 17115)

Oh I wish I knew. I hope no cigars were involved

Tenesmus - 29 Oct 2011 15:57:32 (#46 of 17115)

I want a sinister charabanc.

mabrouka - 29 Oct 2011 15:59:35 (#47 of 17115)

He was devoted to his mum.

As a mum, I find it sad that this is so often the sign of someone odd. Somehow it shouldn't be.

1OffManMental - 29 Oct 2011 16:00:08 (#48 of 17115)

What is this sinister charabanc business?

urbanspacemonkey - 29 Oct 2011 16:01:08 (#49 of 17115)

It's bit odd when you're 80 and she's dead

mabrouka - 29 Oct 2011 16:02:19 (#50 of 17115)

GPWM

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 16:05:38 (#51 of 17115)

GPWM?

He kept all his mum's clothes in the wardrobe after she died and left her bedroom exactly as it was. That's a bit odd.

kokolores - 29 Oct 2011 16:07:19 (#52 of 17115)

So that means <does some maths> that back in 1967, the Summer of Love and the Beatles and Top of the Pops and all, Jimmy was already 40. Phew!

1OffManMental - 29 Oct 2011 16:08:03 (#53 of 17115)

Grief does strange things to people.



Wearing his mum's clothes and keeping her corpse exactly as it was would be a bit odd.

Electro - 29 Oct 2011 16:08:49 (#54 of 17115)

GPWM GOOD POINT WELL MADE

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 16:16:58 (#55 of 17115)

Thanks Electro

StakludKar - 29 Oct 2011 16:23:02 (#56 of 17115)

Within minutes, MINUTES of the news breaking on Sky @ 3pm there were fulsome tributes from Dave Lee Travis.

What more epitaph would you want. And Diddy David Hamilton has just been on.

Its the main damn story on there. Suppose they're trying to make up for not going big on the death of Betty Driver the other saturday.

Sky man Ashish Joshi has said, "There was really no bad stories about him At All", a universally kind and loved man, then.

Although Nick Highams on BBC in the pre-packed obit does mention that Jimell was mysterious and essentially a bit odd.

Colleen Nolan did actually appear with him when he was a guest on Loose Women a few months back. Not awkward at all.

oohbetty - 29 Oct 2011 16:23:08 (#57 of 17115)

Let's not forget internet poster TheP (RIP)'s friend who snorted a line of coke from Saville's engorged member.

StakludKar - 29 Oct 2011 16:30:16 (#58 of 17115)

Will it get menioned on Have I Got News For You?



Leeds poice were called to his flat @ midday, and have announced there were no suspicious circumstances to Jimells death.

The cops always announce this whenever a much loved Octegenarian celebrity dies

TommyDGNR8 - 29 Oct 2011 16:32:11 (#59 of 17115)

Fare thee well, Sir Jimmy.

You really wound up some people just by being you.

For that, and your charitable work

I salute you.

Leftie - 29 Oct 2011 16:43:41 (#60 of 17115)

I bet The Guardian are relieved they closed The Talk. It'd be a nightmare having him die at the weekend with no moderators.

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Brunothecat - 29 Oct 2011 16:49:56 (#62 of 17115)

Dead person ≠ lawsuit shirley.

urbanspacemonkey - 29 Oct 2011 16:50:00 (#63 of 17115)

Colleen Nolan did actually appear with him when he was a guest on Loose Women a few months back. Not awkward at all.

she probably figured that she's safe now she's no longer 14

FleurDuMal - 29 Oct 2011 16:52:23 (#64 of 17115)

Heh!

oohbetty - 29 Oct 2011 17:25:25 (#65 of 17115)

I bet these two had loads to talk about:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/gallery/2011/oct/29/j
immy-savile-life-in-pictures?picture=381150919

quartus - 29 Oct 2011 17:32:37 (#66 of 17115)

telling juxtaposition here:

http://youtu.be/jAedzGq8ou4?t=2m26s

kokolores - 29 Oct 2011 17:34:07 (#67 of 17115)

He was a Mensa member and had an IQ of 149.

That's higher than Shakira!

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SlasherBindman - 29 Oct 2011 18:39:35 (#70 of 17115)

Garrick

What about that video in which Auberon Waugh denounces Sir Jimmy? (Or am I misremembering)

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Electro - 29 Oct 2011 18:51:14 (#73 of 17115)

Where from? JB Sports.

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FleurDuMal - 29 Oct 2011 18:52:26 (#75 of 17115)

I don't see why he can't still use it.

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Brunothecat - 29 Oct 2011 18:57:10 (#78 of 17115)

I wonder if someone will go as gadaffi with a stick up the jacksy?

DorianJKHawkwack - 29 Oct 2011 18:58:10 (#79 of 17115)

Something very wrong with Jimmy Savile.

My ex was a nurse at Leeds General, and lived in Roundhay not far from him. She said the rumours about him and cadavers were rife, and nobody trusted him. He worked as a porter (voluntary) but he gave everyone the creeps.

I spent one boring day on a train with him up to Glasgow and back filming a BR ad back in the 80s. He was someone who couldn't hold a conversation at all. All he did was talk: either about himself, or make some naff joke. What a tedious, tedious old twat he was.

Narcissist, too close to his mother, worked around dead bodies and children, never married (or had a lover), kept a shrine to his mother (had all her clothes dry cleaned once a year for Chrissakes!)...AND a disc jockey.

One of the weirdest fuckers ever to make it onto the telly.

Everyone has a sexual outlet. I dread to think what his must have been.

Looking forward to the TV film of his life. My bet is it'll outshine Kenneth Williams and Frankie Howard as all the dirt comes out at last...

Electro - 29 Oct 2011 19:00:00 (#80 of 17115)

He claimed to have invented the disco.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15507863

deadmanwalking23 - 29 Oct 2011 19:00:01 (#81 of 17115)

ITV news described him as a loner, says it all.

JohnIlly - 29 Oct 2011 19:01:20 (#82 of 17115)

ITV news described him as a loner

That's nearly as bad as the neighbours saying "He kept himself to himself".

DorianJKHawkwack - 29 Oct 2011 19:10:08 (#83 of 17115)

Why is it so many male celebrities (esp lonely, fucked up ones) have such strange relationships with their mothers?

Electro - 29 Oct 2011 19:14:54 (#84 of 17115)

I blame Oedipus.

MCShufflesLastJourney - 29 Oct 2011 19:17:11 (#85 of 17115)

Has there ever been a good media week for loners?

JohnIlly - 29 Oct 2011 19:19:31 (#86 of 17115)

I wonder whether, given Sir Jim's sterling work at St James's in Leeds, someone will sing St James Infirmary Blues at his funeral:

I went down to St. James Infirmary,

Saw my baby there,

Stretched out on a long white table,

So cold, so sweet, so fair.

shadwell - 29 Oct 2011 19:56:14 (#87 of 17115)

Radio presenter Paul Burnett told Sky News...

'He did a lot of work as a porter in the hospital that he collected money for. He would go there at night and work as a porter and I think he loved the people that he worked with

chardonnay - 29 Oct 2011 20:06:36 (#88 of 17115)

Physically

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 29 Oct 2011 20:07:26 (#89 of 17115)

heh.

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 20:08:09 (#90 of 17115)

Oh dear. Didn't he do a lot at Stoke Mandeville too?

I'm conjuring up some awful thoughts here

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 29 Oct 2011 20:10:03 (#91 of 17115)

He went to Stoke Mandeville after being asked to leave the Leeds hospitals. Where, apparently, they kept a VERY close eye on him.

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 29 Oct 2011 20:12:22 (#92 of 17115)

When my son was in Leeds General we spent a lot of time there with him, and one of the nurses on his ward told us a few tales about wonderful man-of-the-people Jimmy Savile.

54321wibble - 29 Oct 2011 20:13:20 (#93 of 17115)

http://twitpic.com/77lw5x

Apparently Savile had an injunction preventing this picture apparently of him with children at a Jersey care home being published.

Tenesmus - 29 Oct 2011 20:13:40 (#94 of 17115)

All this innuendo is shocking. Doesn't anyone have any reliable links to show he really bummed corpses, or something?

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 29 Oct 2011 20:14:43 (#95 of 17115)

'A' Jersey care home, or 'the' Jersey care home?

54321wibble - 29 Oct 2011 20:17:40 (#96 of 17115)

That I don't know (but my first thought was the Jersey care home)

There surely can't be that many care homes on Jersey

arbitrary - 29 Oct 2011 20:19:05 (#97 of 17115)

A quick google reveals:

"I once interviewed Larry Grayson for a local radiostation. After the interview, Larry says to me 'Doyou know the truth about XXXXXX XXXXXX? All that workhe does at the hospitals - well it's all a front.The real reason he's happy to help the hospitalporters is because he likes to fuck the dead.'

"At which point Larry Grayson does an impersonationof XXXXXX fucking a dead body, while repeatingthe words 'fucks the dead, fucks the dead'

"Larry then sits down leans over to me and says 'hewon't be able to fucking fix that if it ever gets out!'"

WilyCoyote - 29 Oct 2011 20:19:14 (#98 of 17115)

Bronski Beat and The Communards won't be the same without him.

arbitrary - 29 Oct 2011 20:20:07 (#99 of 17115)

I think we can all now fill in the Xs without fear of libel.

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 20:20:42 (#100 of 17115)

Is it possible to fuck someone who's dead? I would have thought rigor mortis would be a bit of barrier

54321wibble - 29 Oct 2011 20:20:52 (#101 of 17115)

Vendor - possibly the care home

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t507589/

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 29 Oct 2011 20:22:58 (#102 of 17115)

Not clicking on a fascist link, I'm afraid.

54321wibble - 29 Oct 2011 20:24:52 (#103 of 17115)

Sorry - hadn't looked where the link went

Try this

http://www.thelawyer.com/jimmy-savile-turns-to-fox-hayes-for-action-against-the-sun/131780.article

Leeds-based firm Fox Hayes has commenced legal action against The Sun newspaper on behalf of TV personality Jimmy Savile.

Savile, the star of children’s television favourite Jim’ll Fix It, decided to start proceedings against the Rupert Murdoch paper after a series of articles linked the former Radio One DJ with Jersey children’s home Haut de la Garenne.

The police are currently investigating the care home after human remains were found at the residence where children were allegedly tortured and sexually abused.

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 20:25:11 (#104 of 17115)

I'd be more willing to believe it was true if they called Wilfred Bramble by his real name, Wilfred Bramwell (I think but it's def not Bramble). As he was arrested for importuning (lovely word) in gents toilets, it seems likely he prefers men to little boys

didn't realise it was fascist until I read it

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 20:27:40 (#105 of 17115)

But didn't it turn out that the "human remains" didn't actually exist? I was listening to something about this on Radio 4. The whole thing was either made up or a big cover up

rafibrown - 29 Oct 2011 20:27:50 (#106 of 17115)

I'd only heard of him vaguely and I can't find much on the net about these rumours at all. But here is an interview with him, in which he denies all biblical knowledge of corpses and kids.

http://www.independent.ie/unsorted/features/kids-cant-be-kidded-they-smell-the-truth-511693.html

urbanspacemonkey - 29 Oct 2011 20:27:59 (#107 of 17115)

He claimed to have invented the disco.

In the 40s and 50s, the musicians union was very sniffy about people playing records in public without hiring musicians, Jimmy Saville solved the problem by hiring bands and not bothering to let them play.

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 29 Oct 2011 20:30:20 (#108 of 17115)

And he was the first 'dance hall' DJ to use two decks so he could segue records smoothly. But he fucked corpses, so it's a bit 'good news / bad news' really.

mancurse - 29 Oct 2011 20:37:32 (#109 of 17115)

Macman told me the sad news with the words: "Guess who's found himself face down on the slab tonight?"

I went to see Jim'll Fix It being recorded on a school trip when I was about 14.

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 20:38:35 (#110 of 17115)

Is there a doctor on the forum? Back to my question:

Is it possible to fuck a dead person?

In the You will Die thread, yumyum says that dead people groan etc and expel a lot of body fluid. Then I think rigor mortis sets in PDQ

Sabacious - 29 Oct 2011 20:41:32 (#111 of 17115)

Rigor mortis peaks a few hours after death and then gradually wears off over about 2 days.

Odd things can happen soon after death as motor nerves spontaneously fire. Sitting bolt upright in bed is not uncommon, and plenty of noises.

MadamZsaZsa - 29 Oct 2011 20:41:39 (#112 of 17115)

Rigor wears off again though, you can't keep a stiffie forever.

so to speak

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 29 Oct 2011 20:41:57 (#113 of 17115)

From notoriously reliable Wikipedia; Rigor mortis (Latin meaning "stiffness of death") is one of the recognizable signs of death that is caused by a chemical change in the muscles after death, causing the limbs of the corpse to become stiff and difficult to move or manipulate. In humans it commences after about 3 hours, reaches maximum stiffness after 12 hours, and gradually dissipates until approximately 72 hours (3 days) after death.

(my bold)

so, pot of lube and you're in.

mancurse - 29 Oct 2011 20:42:45 (#114 of 17115)

Of course it's possible to fuck a dead person. Dead people sigh rather than groan, in my experience, but that's a perfectly valid response when your corpse is being fucked by a creepy old man.

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 29 Oct 2011 20:42:50 (#115 of 17115)

erm, apparently.

< rattles jewellery >

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 20:46:11 (#116 of 17115)

I didn't realise rigor mortis wore off. Heck!But doesn't decompostion start pretty quickly?

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 29 Oct 2011 20:48:28 (#117 of 17115)

Not in a mortuary setting, I wouldn't imagine. But keeping bodies in cold storage will obviously slow the rate at which rigor wears off.

I'm thinking about this too much, aren't I?

54321wibble - 29 Oct 2011 20:48:42 (#118 of 17115)

Apparently he sat with his mother's corpse for several days after she died. I have really bad thoughts going through my head now. Thanks threadsters!

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 29 Oct 2011 20:49:13 (#119 of 17115)

It's a service we provide, Wibbs.

JollityFarm - 29 Oct 2011 20:50:31 (#120 of 17115)

He insists it was because the ground was too frozen immediately after her death to dig a grave.

I'm not going to comment, I know nothing about these things.

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54321wibble - 29 Oct 2011 20:52:32 (#122 of 17115)

Sexy?

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rafibrown - 29 Oct 2011 20:53:18 (#124 of 17115)

hahaha

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urbanspacemonkey - 29 Oct 2011 21:04:23 (#126 of 17115)

And he was the first 'dance hall' DJ to use two decks so he could segue records smoothly

and many rappers have copied his garish tracksuit and 'bling' jewelry image, he virtually invented hip hop

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VendorOfQuackNostrum - 29 Oct 2011 21:05:46 (#128 of 17115)

- liven things up

+ be the last straw for many posters

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Leftie - 29 Oct 2011 21:13:47 (#131 of 17115)

Going back, it's not about libel. I do know the law. It's just if it involves other people - which it could well end up doing - the paper would have had their work cut out.

I'm tempted to have another Mail invasion to see what they do.

SlasherBindman - 29 Oct 2011 21:23:03 (#132 of 17115)

GU Rock Lives

Opaz – 01:55pm Jun 12, 2001 BST ( #16 of 17)

It’s last at night in a fashionable area of downtown (sorry, Spon) Leeds, well-dressed people out on the town scurrying about on their way to expensive French restaurants. A slender leg is emerging from the open door of a black cab, we realise that the leg belongs to Poobie, whose face we can just make out in the gloom of the cab’s interior. She is wearing a long luxurious fur coat and a diamond necklace and is holding a cigarette in a holder in one hand. There’s a man in the back of the cab whose face is entirely in shadow, although tendrils of long white hair are just visible, as is his arm stretched over the back of the seat, holding a large cigar. We realise it is Jimmy Savile. Across the street, Shadrack lurks in a shadowy doorway, looking as if he might have been sleeping rough the last few nights, his dark suit rumpled and stained, a bottle of beer in his hand. The driver of the cab appears to be Boog, wearing a sinister smile.

MysteryDate - 29 Oct 2011 21:26:31 (#133 of 17115)

From comments on the DM:

About 6 years ago, my wife and I were having a weekend away in Scarborough.... bumped into Sir Jimmy in an Italian Restaurant on the seafront.......he joined us for dinner (we picked up the bill!!) He told us stories of his life which will probably have never been mentioned or published....... greatly memorable experience..... hugely eccentric and direct..... a truly wonderful character in every way. Very sad to hear of his passing today. RIP Sir Jimmy. God Bless.

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54321wibble - 29 Oct 2011 21:32:43 (#135 of 17115)

I'm guessing charities will benefit a lot from his will

shadwell - 29 Oct 2011 21:32:49 (#136 of 17115)

From comments on the DM

I think Abdullah Ibrahim Mohammed al Saleemi Bisha Mohammad's warm tribute said it for all of us:

Nice to see ya to see ya!!!

MysteryDate - 29 Oct 2011 21:34:01 (#137 of 17115)

Not the first time today that Sir Jim'll has been confused with Brucie.

Tight old bastard, what a rotten trick to play. He was loaded.

Yep. I thought so too.

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FleurDuMal - 29 Oct 2011 21:42:01 (#139 of 17115)

Only slightly? I've just ruined my keyboard.

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LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 22:13:57 (#141 of 17115)

I just watched BBC News at 10 and "a fan" placed some flowers outside his house.Just the one fan (middle aged woman)

deadmanwalking23 - 29 Oct 2011 22:36:54 (#142 of 17115)

I saw that too, noticed they said he was one of Britain's "well known celebrities" as opposed to "much loved" which is how they refer to Brucie.

rafibrown - 29 Oct 2011 22:38:51 (#143 of 17115)

Celebrities are well-known by definition, no?

deadmanwalking23 - 29 Oct 2011 22:40:22 (#144 of 17115)

They may have said entertainers

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ChachaChazz - 29 Oct 2011 22:51:28 (#146 of 17115)

He will haunt the dreams of children forever.

toffle - 29 Oct 2011 22:55:34 (#147 of 17115)

In what way was Savile entertaining?

The same way a particularly nasty horror film is.

ChachaChazz - 29 Oct 2011 23:00:12 (#148 of 17115)

About 99.8% of children worldwide would draw a picture of Jimmy Saville if asked to draw a picture of "the nasty man".

Piscineaste - 29 Oct 2011 23:04:09 (#149 of 17115)

I bet it wasn't just the combination of roller-coaster motion and sticky fairground fare that was discomfiting those Boy Scouts.

mancurse - 29 Oct 2011 23:04:12 (#150 of 17115)

I wrote in to Jim'll Fix It when I was a girl, asking to ride showjumper Eddie Macken's horse Boomerang, or possibly Pele, anyway whichever one it was who kept winning everything at the time. I wanted of course to make him (Eddie, not Jimmy) fall in love with me and make me his wife. My only other hope of being Mrs Macken was to become a successful showjumper myself.

I didn't get on Jim'll Fix It and I didn't get to marry Eddie Macken.

Antimatter - 29 Oct 2011 23:08:37 (#151 of 17115)

#149 - I know the feeling mancurse. (it was Boomerang).

mancurse - 29 Oct 2011 23:10:43 (#152 of 17115)

Pele was great too though.

mancurse - 29 Oct 2011 23:12:10 (#153 of 17115)

Did you love Eddie too, Anti? I learned much later that he was a right one for shagging around - we probably could have had him, you know.

Antimatter - 29 Oct 2011 23:15:24 (#154 of 17115)

I grew up in Aylesbury too, and my mum was an occupational therapist at Stoke Mandeville. She met JS on many occasions, and said he was a very difficult person to talk to, but the children really loved him. He just didn't seem able to relate to adults, well, live ones anyway.

No mention of necrophilia, but then MaA is someone who doesn't believe in blow jobs either.

LadyDi - 29 Oct 2011 23:18:49 (#155 of 17115)

Anti, he sounds like Micheal Jackson, not being able ie living in a child's world

I dont' like Brucie either

JohnIlly - 29 Oct 2011 23:19:22 (#156 of 17115)

MaA is someone who doesn't believe in blow jobs either.

That raises just too many questions.

mancurse - 29 Oct 2011 23:23:51 (#157 of 17115)

A friend of mine worked at Stoke Mandeville for a while. She says Savile had a room there, for which he paid no rent, and he worked as a volunteer porter.

ChachaChazz - 29 Oct 2011 23:24:41 (#158 of 17115)

When I used to go over to Norn during the school hols to stay with my peasant cousins I frequently lied to them in an attempt to come across like some supercool cat telling them I had been on Jim'll Fix It. My tales spanned the full romantic gamut of going on a rollercoaster and eating shit loads of ice cream sundaes (i.e. lots of exotica unheard of and unseen in Norn) and meeting John Conteh and Norris McWhirter et al. I even fashioned a Jim'll medal out of a bar of Shield soap, tinfoil and some ribbons using a pen knife and flashed it out of a bathroom window to the congregation of gullible ginger cuz-tards below who all worshipped me as "oldest cousin".

ChachaChazz - 29 Oct 2011 23:28:16 (#159 of 17115)

In reality I was far far too working class and savvy around paedos to ever get near Jimmy Saville's rape chair.

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JohnIlly - 29 Oct 2011 23:34:15 (#161 of 17115)

HIGNFY got quite interesting. I wonder whether this will ever feature on an outtakes show: http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/rogerb/jokes/HIGNFY.
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ChachaChazz - 29 Oct 2011 23:37:47 (#163 of 17115)

Meeting Norris McWhirter was like touching the spear of destiny when you were 8.

JohnIlly - 29 Oct 2011 23:49:11 (#164 of 17115)

Has someone hacked The Sun again or are they just making things up as usual?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/38
45491/TVs-Sir-Jimmy-Savile-is-fixed-in-hospital.html


TELLY legend Sir Jimmy Savile was last night in hospital recovering from a bout of pneumonia.

The 84-year-old former Jim'll Fix It star and Top Of The Pops presenter was taken to Leeds General Infirmary, where he has often done voluntary work

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JohnIlly - 29 Oct 2011 23:54:21 (#166 of 17115)

Ah. Google said it was updated 2 hours ago and the date shown at the top is Sat, 29 Oct 2011.

poorsod - 30 Oct 2011 01:28:23 (#167 of 17115)

Gosh. On the BBC website, nearly 50% of the comments posted have been deleted by the mods for one reason or another.

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Cavewoman - 30 Oct 2011 01:09:36 (#169 of 17115)

garrick - OK, watched the link. What are you saying?

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ChachaChazz - 30 Oct 2011 01:21:46 (#171 of 17115)

The ringed fingers in the bath splishing splashing. Eeeek!

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ChachaChazz - 30 Oct 2011 01:24:03 (#173 of 17115)

He was hot wired into hell.

Tonedeaf - 30 Oct 2011 01:28:16 (#174 of 17115)

The young Jimmy Saville looks quite normal. Clearly either gay or a dabbler, but I certainly wouldn't have him down as a corpse-fucker with his own room in a hospital.

This thread is disturbing. I used to think it was all just, rather dark, GU japery. Now I don't know what to think. Could charity man Sir Jimmy really fuck corpses? I mean, who fucks corpses? That's just fucked up. Is it a Satanic ritual thing? Does he love Satan too?

Only the internets knows for sure.

Cavewoman - 30 Oct 2011 01:29:07 (#175 of 17115)

Seriously weird. My comment on garrick's link now predates his posting of the link. Go figure.

CaptainBlack - 30 Oct 2011 01:29:26 (#176 of 17115)

Sir James on his mother from the Guardian Obit:

"When she died she was all mine. She looked marvellous. She belonged to me. It's wonderful, is death."

Shudder

raymie - 30 Oct 2011 07:28:48 (#177 of 17115)

my girlfriend's story; when she was a glasgow busdriver in the 80's, she met jimmy saville. he took her hand and she thought he was going to kiss it, but he licked it! she mentions his rings, too

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ChachaChazz - 30 Oct 2011 08:33:49 (#180 of 17115)

Great Sun comments...

aufdeutsch

Why hasn't he ever married and had kids?...its not normal is it?

Maybe because he looked after his mother "The Duchess" There isn't a law (unless Labour Slipped it in somewhere) that says everyone should get married and have children

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FleurDuMal - 30 Oct 2011 09:25:45 (#183 of 17115)

Jim'll Fuck it?

chardonnay - 30 Oct 2011 09:30:55 (#184 of 17115)

To give him credit, no one can say he was one of those who took advantage of his celebrity status by shagging everything that moves.

diomu_II - 30 Oct 2011 09:31:33 (#185 of 17115)

References to "Savile" and "necrophilia" on places like David Icke and other nutters. Maybe it's not true at all...

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 30 Oct 2011 09:31:47 (#186 of 17115)

Fucking wow. To CQ with that one, I reckon!

chardonnay - 30 Oct 2011 09:34:31 (#187 of 17115)

Why thank you

ChachaChazz - 30 Oct 2011 10:03:23 (#188 of 17115)

According to a few swivvel eyed webmongs Sir Jim seems to have some unsavoury links to everyone's favourite black Tory Derek Laud.

feckless - 30 Oct 2011 10:10:53 (#189 of 17115)

Have any of the Sunday papers printed any sordid details of his alleged etc?

chardonnay - 30 Oct 2011 10:12:18 (#190 of 17115)

Give them a week to get a decent feature together...

Maybe an opinion piece by Louis Theroux on the bits they couldn't use from filming the documentary...

ChachaChazz - 30 Oct 2011 10:16:43 (#191 of 17115)

God I wished I'd never started looking into Saville's touching. All manner of mouth breathing websites written by ex care leavers in blue comic sans are now begging to be read and Hollyoaks is on.

slimpickins - 30 Oct 2011 10:21:53 (#192 of 17115)

HIGNFY script largely fake according to this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2000/jul/21/i
nternetnews.theguardian

urbanspacemonkey - 30 Oct 2011 11:00:33 (#193 of 17115)

An ex girlfriend of mine met him on a school trip when she was about 14, although none got the Coleen Nolan treatment she said the considered opinion of her classmates was that he was a right old pervert.

ChachaChazz - 30 Oct 2011 11:27:16 (#194 of 17115)

No one died.

Leftie - 30 Oct 2011 11:29:00 (#195 of 17115)

Whatever you think of anyone, this is the most strange comment I've ever read.

"Why hasn't he ever married and had kids?...its not normal is it?"

Shall we do a quick poll straw and see how many people we know who aren't married and/or don't have children? Is it really that freaky?!

And it's it's you twat.

sevdalinke - 30 Oct 2011 11:35:37 (#196 of 17115)

All this bad stuff about Jimmy Savile is unsubstantiated internet gossip. Amazing how some people love indulging in it.

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quartus - 30 Oct 2011 11:40:02 (#198 of 17115)

to be played at his funeral? I don't think so ...

http://youtu.be/NBJgY4u9EtE?t=1m9s

sevdalinke - 30 Oct 2011 11:41:03 (#199 of 17115)

because Savile was such a creepy nonce

Did you read that somewhere? The internet, perhaps?

dreams99 - 30 Oct 2011 11:42:11 (#200 of 17115)

All this bad stuff about Jimmy Savile is unsubstantiated internet gossip

The gossip predates the internet.

BasilSeal - 30 Oct 2011 12:42:36 (#201 of 17115)

It doesn't mean it's true though, does it? He did appear to be a bit odd, but being a bit odd doesn't automatically make him a toucher, just as keeping yourself to yourself and being a bit of a loner doesn't automatically make one a serial killer, although obviously, it helps.

Brunothecat - 30 Oct 2011 12:44:21 (#202 of 17115)

Keeping a dead mum in the living room? I wouldn't have fancied showering in his motel.

54321wibble - 30 Oct 2011 12:46:22 (#203 of 17115)

Mother's not herself today...

whitbreadtrophy - 30 Oct 2011 12:58:53 (#204 of 17115)

I just had a look at the Icke forum and by page 9 it's fully established that he was a murdering paedo nonce with senior connections to the CIA, FBI, Mossad, The Knights Templar, The Illuminati (natch) and virtually ran the BBC. He got away with his crimes against children, nurses, animals and fashion because HE WAS JUST TOO POWERFUL!!

JohnIlly - 30 Oct 2011 12:59:17 (#205 of 17115)

The stuff about not being able to bury his mother because the ground was frozen doesn't ring true.

That might happen in Siberia where the ground freezes deep down but I don't think that cemeteries in the UK rely on a bloke with a shovel to dig graves.

LittleMissMuffet - 30 Oct 2011 12:59:54 (#206 of 17115)

To give him credit, no one can say he was one of those who took advantage of his celebrity status by shagging everything that moves

Pure fucking gold - bravo! Bravo!

StakludKar - 30 Oct 2011 13:07:49 (#207 of 17115)

He was made a Papal Knight, mind.

Oh God, Play It Safe. That scared me WAY more than Government safety films or Dr Who.

It was all reconstructions of terrfying accidents possible from everyday objects.

The woman whose toddler drowned in the bath while she answered the phone or those kids scalded for life within seconds.

---The uncle of a workmate ended up in stoke Mandeville after colapsing at home. He was unconscious for several weeks, and when he finally came round, was amazed to see Sir Jimmell in the canteen. "Now then Now Then Owsabout" routine ensues. Ailing uncle thinks this is hilarious and a real tonic.

The next day Jimell is also in the canteen and does the same thing again like clockwork.

And again.

And again.

Every day he was in hospital, for about 2 months.

whitbreadtrophy - 30 Oct 2011 13:15:42 (#208 of 17115)

Every day he was in hospital, for about 2 months.

Or perhaps, just perhaps, he was very socially awkward and all the charity and fundraising stuff filled a gap for someone unable to relate to people on any level other than "Now then, goodness gracious, it was Showaddywaddy".

quartus - 30 Oct 2011 13:16:31 (#209 of 17115)

This from the Daily Mail,(just for the record, and JohnIlly)

"Grieving families are being forced to wait more than a month to bury their dead as Britain struggles to cope with the worst winter in 13 years.

Undertakers say the number of unburied bodies has risen sharply since the start of the cold snap - and is expected to grow.

The sub-zero conditions and snowstorms have triggered a surge in deaths and left the ground too frozen to dig up across much of the UK.Digging in: A woman near Aviemore where temperatures fell to -18c

Digging in: A woman near Aviemore where temperatures fell to -18c

Despite the growing crisis, local councils are refusing to clear the backlog of bodies by opening up cemeteries on Saturdays and Sundays. Most still allow weekend burials only for Muslims and orthodox Jews.

According to the latest official figures, funeral directors and registrars are struggling to cope with the bodies of more than 54,113 who have died so far this year.

The figure is almost 6,000 higher than in previous years, with thousands of deaths still to be registered for January and the first week of February.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1140322/Deadly-cold-snap-led-months-delay-funerals.html

chardonnay - 30 Oct 2011 13:24:04 (#210 of 17115)

Yeah but she died in August

chardonnay - 30 Oct 2011 13:24:36 (#211 of 17115)

Okay I made that up

DavidT999 - 30 Oct 2011 13:26:04 (#212 of 17115)

I met the lovely Piscineaste yesterday and when the news came through we instantly fretted about what was to become of someone grieving in pain for this man..

Our cherished Hankinshaw now has lost an output for his venom. We agreed that Eamonn Holmes needs to watch out now.

54321wibble - 30 Oct 2011 13:34:25 (#213 of 17115)

What was winter 1973 like? Was it particularly cold?

(I spent 73 split between cot and pram, so I wouldn't know!)

StakludKar - 30 Oct 2011 13:38:50 (#214 of 17115)

Those twitter tributes in full:

@Lord_Sugar Lord Sugar Sad news on the death of Jimmy Savile very funny man and did loads of work for charity RIP

@Herring1967 Richard Herring Oh Jimmy Savile has died. I am torn between feeling sad and wanting to make a very inappropriate joke. I will be sad for now



@serafinowicz Peter Serafinowicz RIP Jimmy Savile. May your fat spirit live on as Boris Johnson.

@Schofe Phillip Schofield Deeply saddened by the death of Sir Jimmy Savile. He was so generous with his time and advice to me when I was starting out. So long Jim :(20 hours ago

and a tribute from Louis Theroux

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/10/30/jimmy-savile-dead-louis-theroux-pays-tribute-to-one-off-mate-115875-23526241/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=tw
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CheBoludo - 30 Oct 2011 13:44:43 (#215 of 17115)

I don't know if this internet tittle-tattle is correct. He was certainly an odd character. But great things come from oddness.

RIP Sir Jimmy. The dancers from planet Earth appreciate your brilliant idea of using two record decks.

quartus - 30 Oct 2011 13:53:45 (#216 of 17115)

Here's a pic to remember him by:

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/oct2011/6/3/imag
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toffle - 30 Oct 2011 13:55:08 (#217 of 17115)

He was creepy, though. Even for a DJ.

quartus - 30 Oct 2011 13:59:09 (#218 of 17115)

From the Graun's interview in April 2011

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,178381,0
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Savile rises from the bed to tell an anecdote from his book-reviewing days. "After a couple of weeks I said, 'I want to expose a book. It's for children and it's dreadful; there's this girl who's well underage and she takes up with a geezer who's yonks old and eventually they schlep off together.' "

What's the book?

"Wait a minute because you're the audience now," Savile chides. "Now bear in mind this was live TV, and I'm saying, personally, I don't think it's a good thing because I don't think an underage girl should be exhorted by her parents to strike up a relationship with a guy five, six, seven times older than she is. And the book - Peter Pan! I got the sack for that." He loves the story, laughs himself silly and hops back on to bed.

kokolores - 30 Oct 2011 13:59:55 (#219 of 17115)

using two record decks

Also, he was doing bling before most of the gangsta-rappers were born. The Daddy of Bad Taste, in a kind of Liberace way.

urbanspacemonkey - 30 Oct 2011 14:01:02 (#220 of 17115)

and wearing garish tracksuits, he invented hip hop

toffle - 30 Oct 2011 14:01:53 (#221 of 17115)

Pity he didn't invent the drive-by shooting while he was at it.

54321wibble - 30 Oct 2011 14:01:58 (#222 of 17115)

#213 - it's a clean pic - he's endorsing 2 soap powders!

urbanspacemonkey - 30 Oct 2011 14:02:12 (#223 of 17115)

He was made a Papal Knight, mind.

and a Knight of Malta

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ChachaChazz - 30 Oct 2011 14:07:03 (#225 of 17115)

@ChrisJefferiesCanyngRoad He taught me all he new about perfecting the platinum bob and dealing with media intrusion.

quartus - 30 Oct 2011 16:19:14 (#226 of 17115)

#213 - it's a clean pic


whatever "Jim's daily dozen" might mean ...

Electro - 30 Oct 2011 16:26:20 (#227 of 17115)

@ChrisJefferiesCanyngRoad He taught me all he new about perfecting the platinum bob and dealing with media intrusion.

ChachaChazz so funny!

quartus - 30 Oct 2011 18:14:09 (#228 of 17115)

More from that Graun interview:

"I once said to a girl, 'I'm older than your grandfather.' And she says, 'Well I love him as well.' I say, 'Good-oh, but I'm still too old for you', and she says, 'No, you're not because you're ageless, you're you.' Now that didn't come from me, it comes from someone else. So when people say to me, 'Don't you think you're too old to do this?', I say I'm doing what I'm doing cos I'm having a good time and why don't you piss off to leave me to do it."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,178381,0
0.html

quartus - 30 Oct 2011 18:21:50 (#229 of 17115)

omigod, there's more:

The creepiest moment in the documentary occurs late at night when he thinks the camera is off, and he talks about the dancehall days. "I wouldn't stand for any nonsense whatsoever. Ever, ever. I never threw anybody out. Tied them up and put them down in the bloody boiler house until I was ready for them. Two o'clock in the fucking morning... We'd tie em up and then we'd come back and I was the judge, jury and executioner. If a copper came and said 'You were a bit heavy with those two guys', I'd say 'Your daughter comes in here, she's 16, she's not supposed to come into town. Presumably you'd like me to look after her. If you don't want me to look after her, tell me and I'll let them dirty slags do what they want to her.' "

SlasherBindman - 30 Oct 2011 19:15:45 (#230 of 17115)

#225

An early example of 'zero tolerance'.

DavidT999 - 30 Oct 2011 19:31:35 (#231 of 17115)

From his Telegraph obit:

This led to Savile’s becoming a Mecca dance-hall manager, and by the late 1950s he was responsible for the entertainment at 45 Mecca ballrooms across the country. At that time, Musicians’ Union regulations stipulated that entertainment in dance-halls should be provided by live bands, with records played only in the interval between performances. Realising that the records were invariably more popular than the band, Savile would circumvent the rules by paying the musicians not to perform. His policy of what he described as “zero tolerance” towards drunks and troublemakers revealed him in a somewhat less benevolent light. In later years, he admitted that they would be taken to the boiler-room, tied up and left for a few hours to reflect on their misdemeanours.

and it closes with:

"....a man who regarded it as his duty to brighten everybody’s day, collaring passers-by to whom he was at best a distant memory and regaling them with his jokes and catchphrases, making a beeline for anybody in a wheelchair.

A man who divided opinion without ever appearing to care much what anyone thought of him, he was simply an odd chap. "

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toffle - 30 Oct 2011 19:38:51 (#233 of 17115)

Not being able to stop is quite a serious problem if you're in a wheelchair.

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Electro - 30 Oct 2011 20:00:55 (#236 of 17115)

Jim fixed it.

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popstar7 - 30 Oct 2011 20:25:17 (#239 of 17115)

How come it never kicked off, at the time, when he groped 14 year old Coleen Nolan on TotP?

You'd think their Dad would have wrung Savile's scrawny neck for that. But perhaps he was too guilt-ridden/compromised by sexually abusing his eldest daughter, Anne, to notice.

http://tinyurl.com/mzvxb8

ArchieSwert - 30 Oct 2011 20:28:44 (#240 of 17115)

He got to meet Brian Jones and Julie Driscoll. Wish I had.

JerkinMcGherkin - 30 Oct 2011 22:03:41 (#241 of 17115)

Has there been any solid evidence of Savile being anything other than an oddball? Or were any public accusations made while he was alive (as was the case with Cyril Smith)? I ask because "he's a bit odd - must be a nonce" has been the cause of one or two miscarriages of justice in living memory.

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ChachaChazz - 30 Oct 2011 22:19:06 (#244 of 17115)

Well he's dead now and we can say waht we want about the corpse buggering nonce.

Leftie - 30 Oct 2011 22:20:57 (#245 of 17115)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/oct/30/jimmy-savile-top-of-pops-dead

JerkinMcGherkin - 30 Oct 2011 23:31:59 (#246 of 17115)

#238 - Well he was presenting a children's TV programme.

urbanspacemonkey - 30 Oct 2011 23:46:13 (#247 of 17115)

I think there's a lot of bitterness from those who didn't get replies to their letters to Jim'll Fix It

SlasherBindman - 31 Oct 2011 08:44:21 (#248 of 17115)

garrick92 - 01:50pm Sep 21, 2005 BST ( #47 of 52)

The really amusing thing about it is the number of pre-recorded obits for TV news that various talking heads have done over the years, referring directly to Savile's behaviour and expressing their revulsion and disbelief (over him never getting nabbed for it). I saw Auberon Waugh's a few years back and it is well worth the wait (assuming it is ever broadcast).

Right. When are these going to surface?

MaisonLazlique - 31 Oct 2011 09:23:04 (#249 of 17115)

I think there's a lot of bitterness from those who didn't get replies to their letters to Jim'll Fix It



Auberon Waugh?

MaxGogarty - 31 Oct 2011 09:26:12 (#250 of 17115)

This thread is disgusting and ridiculous. Either substantiate your absurd claims or be quiet and respect the dead. You are making yourselves look ignorant and childish.

Savile did more for charity than nearly anyone else in the country and did more good for this country than the people who smear his name would even conceive of. You are small, mean and insignificant. He was a magnificently generous English eccentric. Respect due.

EdibleDormouse - 31 Oct 2011 09:36:06 (#251 of 17115)

Are you the Max Gogarty from 'Dad'll Fix It'?

Brunothecat - 31 Oct 2011 10:08:11 (#252 of 17115)

Savile did more for charity

It never seems quite the same when people turn it into a circus and make as much public fuss as possible. There is no law of nature which makes it impossible for someone who puts in work for a charity to still be a wrong 'un.

JohnIlly - 31 Oct 2011 10:16:14 (#253 of 17115)

I am reminded of an episode from The Sopranos where Paulie ensures he donates plenty of money to the church to reduce his time in purgatory for all the murders he has committed. With discounts he reckons 600 years before he gets to heaven. "I could do that standing on my head."

MaxGogarty - 31 Oct 2011 10:20:21 (#254 of 17115)

'It never seems quite the same when people turn it into a circus and make as much public fuss as possible.'

who gives a fucking shit as long as the vulnerable are being helped

Brunothecat - 31 Oct 2011 10:22:34 (#255 of 17115)

who gives a fucking shit as long as the vulnerable are being helped

Saville might have achieved more pressurising Government into improving services rather than becoming a professional fundraiser.

MaisonLazlique - 31 Oct 2011 10:23:04 (#256 of 17115)

"Helped"

col2001 - 31 Oct 2011 10:25:06 (#257 of 17115)

who gives a fucking shit as long as the vulnerable are being helped

I do. I fucking hate 'charity'.

  • It absolves the state from meeting its responbilities to the vulnerable.


  • The poor contribute disproportionately.


  • Decisions on who and how to help are made through a vile combination of marketing and OPR and donor preference. So, cash is not allocated according to need but according to fashion and promotion.


  • There is insufficient scrutiny of charities compare to statutory agencies.


  • Charity itself is a dodgy term - viz the fucking private schools.


Mindless support of 'charity' is pathetic. It's even worse when it is used to excuse or compensate for dodgy behaviour.

Cavewoman - 31 Oct 2011 10:30:24 (#258 of 17115)

Hear, hear! I do support various charities, as it's the only system we've currently got, but I totally support the points above.

JohnIlly - 31 Oct 2011 10:30:49 (#259 of 17115)

Atlantic Bridge was a charity.

dreams99 - 31 Oct 2011 10:31:38 (#260 of 17115)

What a pathetic argument.

BlankChank - 31 Oct 2011 10:33:37 (#261 of 17115)

Hmmmm....think you are a little off the mark with some of that Col.

It's perfectly possible to support a high level of state provision of essential services while still wanting to make additional contributions to causes about which one has a strong personal link, particularly if that is going to longer term research which may be difficult to justify on a strict cost-benefit basis. Cancer research, for instance.

col2001 - 31 Oct 2011 10:34:51 (#262 of 17115)

And because I am in full-on frothing mode. here's two numbers that make me mad:

Children In Need 201 broadcast fund raising total: £18 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_Need

In 2011-12 ... Councils are set to cut about £337m of children’s social care services through gross budget reductions of 5 per cent.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b43fe1b2-5e32-11e0-b1d8-00144feab49a.html

A telethon will make people feel better. Actually, political lobbying would achieve a great deal more.

Charity is fine in principle. But.

col2001 - 31 Oct 2011 10:37:05 (#263 of 17115)

Blank - yes, charity can be fine. (I won't debase the discussion by itemising the specific charities I support and the personal reasons why.)

But the kind of charity-fundraising you describe is a small part of the 'charity' narrative.

SlasherBindman - 31 Oct 2011 10:37:58 (#264 of 17115)

Papal Knight Sir Jimmy Savile entertains the nation for decades, is a style pioneer and man ahead of his time, invents the discotheque, lives frugally in the Leeds suburbs, donates 90% of his income to worth causes, works as a hospital porter and selflessly helps the needy. Yet he is pilloried by internet self-soilers and pedlars of mistruths. What a travesty of natural justice.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

doctorsyntax - 31 Oct 2011 10:45:46 (#265 of 17115)

Col2001:

You missed out giving madcap funsters the opportunity to be wacky in the workplace. Bastards.

luckyempty - 31 Oct 2011 10:45:56 (#266 of 17115)

#253 This.

col2001 - 31 Oct 2011 10:48:54 (#267 of 17115)

wacky in the workplace.

Wacky? Yes.

And of course, the trusty old Pay for My Holiday routine:

Hi - I hear you like hillwalking. I'm doing the 3 Peaks Challenge soon, ruining the whole thing for people like you and royally pissing off people around Scafell. I'm really looking forward to it! Can you lend me some of your kit? And will you sponsor me? It's for chariiiiiddddddeeeeeeeee...

JohnIlly - 31 Oct 2011 10:51:37 (#268 of 17115)

I have never understood the logic of sponsored walks.

"Will you give some money to charity?"

"No."

"Will you give some money to charity if a legless ex-serviceman walks to the North Pole?"

"Certainly. Help yourself to my wallet,"

Bensawbridge - 31 Oct 2011 10:54:58 (#269 of 17115)

I do. I fucking hate 'charity'.

pathetic

•It absolves the state from meeting its responsibilities to the vulnerable.

No it doesn't. The state should help the vulnerable. why blame charities and people if they also want to help. why should I not donate to the red cross or MSF if they are helping flood victims? why should people die just because you hate the word charity?

•The poor contribute disproportionately.

do you have any evidence?

•Decisions on who and how to help are made through a vile combination of marketing and OPR and donor preference. So, cash is not allocated according to need but according to fashion and promotion.

please explain. can you appy, this to cancer research, MSF, red cross, plus children's charities?

•There is insufficient scrutiny of charities compare to statutory agencies.

maybe, but why attack charities in general and attack good people who want to help others? Is this a reason to let flood victimes die?

•Charity itself is a dodgy term - viz the fucking private schools.

maybe. however you give yourself away here as a heavily chipped person. you don't like private schools so you lump all charities together and say they are evil. do you really not see all the NET overall good that charities do? do you think most people are so stupid that they cannot recognize that contributing to charities helps people out in general?



Mindless support of 'charity' is pathetic. It's even worse when it is used to excuse or compensate for dodgy behaviour.

BlankChank - 31 Oct 2011 10:57:07 (#270 of 17115)

'But the kind of charity-fundraising you describe is a small part of the 'charity' narrative.'

Well it is the part of the 'narrative' that is relevant to an appraisal of Jimmy Savile, as he was (amongst other things) a major fundraiser for Cancer Research UK.

Brunothecat - 31 Oct 2011 11:01:07 (#271 of 17115)

•It absolves the state from meeting its responsibilities to the vulnerable.

Its the publicity which distracts from the damage government is doing behind the scenes, charity in private (where genuine obviously, not Atlantic Bridge type crookedness) is a useful contribution.

popstar7 - 31 Oct 2011 11:02:20 (#272 of 17115)

This thread has suddenly become very dull.

col2001 - 31 Oct 2011 11:03:04 (#273 of 17115)

No it doesn't. The state should help the vulnerable. why blame charities and people if they also want to help. why should I not donate to the red cross or MSF if they are helping flood victims? why should people die just because you hate the word charity?

Moral blackmail of the most naive kind.

please explain. can you appy, this to cancer research, MSF, red cross, plus children's charities?

It's perfectly clear. You may have missed the thirty-year-old cultural meme about the relative cuddliness of different good causes.

do you think most people are so stupid that they cannot recognize that contributing to charities helps people out in general?

'People' are indeed too stupid to see that charity is too often cover for state and society not doing what it can and should do.

You need to do a lot more thinking about politics and society before you get involved in a debate like this.

Brunothecat - 31 Oct 2011 11:05:58 (#274 of 17115)

Its a fair point.

Enduring some godawful children in need telethon and chucking £24 million in the pot achieves little if we then elect a government which cuts £ 240 million from the budget allocated to those children.

col2001 - 31 Oct 2011 11:08:40 (#275 of 17115)

Anyway, doubt if anything new will come out of this little excursion.

As you were.

Speculating on Jimmy Savile's curious life, I believe?

WilyCoyote - 31 Oct 2011 11:12:19 (#276 of 17115)

This was a disgraceful, puerile, childish and innuendo-laden thread. And that was how it should be.

We don't want it sullied by UK News type wibbling thanks.

oohbetty - 31 Oct 2011 11:19:13 (#277 of 17115)

Yeah, more nonce allegations please.

WilyCoyote - 31 Oct 2011 11:24:25 (#278 of 17115)

All the allegations seem to be along the lines of "I heard off someone....."

Having firmly believed he was a wrong'un for years, I'm now leaning towards him just being odd.

Albeit very, very odd.

I am slightly disappointed.

Wombat - 31 Oct 2011 11:27:09 (#279 of 17115)

Val McDermid wrote a book about a celebrity who helped out in a hospital, was chummy with all the porters, and used his freedom in the hospital to dispose of the bodies of his young victims in the furnace.

I'm saying nothing.

BawbagMcWimoweh - 31 Oct 2011 11:29:46 (#280 of 17115)

Sir Jimmy had long hair before the likes of Morbid Angel and Carcass. So, he basically inspired death metal. If you think about it.

kokolores - 31 Oct 2011 11:30:33 (#281 of 17115)

This thread needs more allegators!

SlasherBindman - 31 Oct 2011 11:30:59 (#282 of 17115)

#275

If true it will surely appear in the tabloids within the week. A pint for Mr Garrick if any of this turns out to be true.

whitbreadtrophy - 31 Oct 2011 11:38:37 (#283 of 17115)

Sir Nowthennowthen didn't invent disco shocker:

http://www.scaruffi.com/history/cpt12.html

"When the occupying German troops shut down Paris' dance halls (which were guilty of promoting Jewish and Black music), private clubs began playing dance records for their customers. "La Discotheque" opened in 1941 to play the jazz music that was banned in dance halls: since it could not hire jazz musicians, it was only playing records."

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urbanspacemonkey - 31 Oct 2011 11:47:47 (#285 of 17115)

So, he basically inspired death metal.

by dying?

carterbrandon - 31 Oct 2011 11:52:10 (#286 of 17115)

Three Peaks? Skydiving? Pfft. We've had people coming round to our desks begging money to do the Inca Trail.

urbanspacemonkey - 31 Oct 2011 11:52:27 (#287 of 17115)

Sir Nowthennowthen didn't invent disco shocker:

but did the French Resistance have twin turntables and a microphone?

Bensawbridge - 31 Oct 2011 11:57:57 (#288 of 17115)

You need to do a lot more thinking about politics and society before you get involved in a debate like this.

I don't think you have thought through your rant at all. Are you saying that because you have a chip on your shoulder about private schools that all charities are bad and do not help good causes?

BasilSeal - 31 Oct 2011 11:58:22 (#289 of 17115)

Having firmly believed he was a wrong'un for years, I'm now leaning towards him just being odd.



Same here.

The allegations, rather than being based on actual facts or events, seem to be extrapolations based on some of his more creepy mannerisms and comments.

He was certainly odd, but i do wonder if he suffered from something akin to aspergers that made social interaction difficult for him. Hence the completely over the top persona, all the 'now then now then, how's about that then?' affectation covers up the fact that he has no social skills and can't judge how to interact with people. Perhaps some of the off colour comments and odd behaviour are down to him trying to be funny and eccentric but not being able to perceive what is acceptable and what isn't?

Obviously just ill-informed idle speculation on my part, but that's what the internet's for, after all.

whitbreadtrophy - 31 Oct 2011 11:59:11 (#290 of 17115)

but did the French Resistance have twin turntables and a microphone?

Mere detail.

MaisonLazlique - 31 Oct 2011 11:59:38 (#291 of 17115)

I don't think you have thought through your rant at all. Are you saying that because you have a chip on your shoulder about private schools that all charities are bad and do not help good causes?



KER- ZINGGGGG!

urbanspacemonkey - 31 Oct 2011 12:01:37 (#292 of 17115)

It hardly takes a genius to come up with the idea of playing records in a dance hall. The reason that people didn't do it for so long was that the musicians union was so powerful.

oohbetty - 31 Oct 2011 12:08:03 (#293 of 17115)

Not sure about your angle, Basil. Lots of people cope with Asbergers in their own way without brokering a meeting between Frank Bruno and the Yorkshire Ripper.

Cavewoman - 31 Oct 2011 12:13:49 (#294 of 17115)

Momentary return to dullness - sorry. As just one example, before the Welfare State, healthcare for the poor was dependent on patronage by the rich. The NHS has made a good job of providing healthcare for all, as a state responsibility. I should perhaps modify my endorsement of col's post by saying that the state should provide core services for those who need them, but there'll always be scope for charity as well.

As you were - back to scurrilousness, please.

col2001 - 31 Oct 2011 12:16:23 (#295 of 17115)

I'll start a News thread for wibbling.

BasilSeal - 31 Oct 2011 12:31:21 (#296 of 17115)

This is true betty, perhaps it's being unfair to aspergers sufferers.

What i mean is, was it that he had some sort in built problem with social interaction, which accounts for his completely over the top mannerisms and persona? surely the 'now then now then' stuff was an affectation he adopted for some reason? Perhaps he was just painfully shy?

whatever, the speculation about him seems to be based, rather than on actual evidence, on people saying 'look at this inappropriate comment he made, he must be a corpse fucker'. Well, maybe he is, but then again maybe he just said inappropriate things because he lacked the necessary social skills to judge the nuances of what is acceptable and what isn't.

That's just ill-informed idle speculation on my part, but then again it's not different than saying 'he was a bit odd, he must be a nonce.'

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Cavewoman - 31 Oct 2011 12:37:17 (#298 of 17115)

They said the same about Chris Jefferies, of course, his main crime being to enthuse about Christina Rossetti.

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JerkinMcGherkin - 31 Oct 2011 12:39:52 (#300 of 17115)

"No smoke without fire" is the perennial cry that goes up from the credulous whenever someone's let out of prison after being wrongfully convicted (or wrongfully arrested, as in Colin Stagg).

Cavewoman - 31 Oct 2011 12:42:53 (#301 of 17115)

No, Synth, I've never said anything of the kind, but plenty of newspapers and commentators did, or rather, hinted at it, which is why Jefferies is now, or soon will be, minted as a result of libel actions.

stemwinder - 31 Oct 2011 12:47:23 (#302 of 17115)

Chris Jefferies does have Jimmy Savile hair, though.

Cavewoman - 31 Oct 2011 12:48:31 (#303 of 17115)

No he doesn't - it's blue.

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WilyCoyote - 31 Oct 2011 14:36:25 (#305 of 17115)

Aye, not enough nonce jotting.

Brunothecat - 31 Oct 2011 14:40:26 (#306 of 17115)

I thought it was cadaver cuddling that was the suggestion.

TheExcession - 31 Oct 2011 15:05:31 (#307 of 17115)

When I first heard that the Sir Jim'll had become a corpse, my first thought was that he could go and fuck himself.

SlasherBindman - 31 Oct 2011 15:18:39 (#308 of 17115)

He almost died from pneumonia when just five months old but miraculously recovered after his mother, whom he always referred to as the redoubtable "Duchess", went out to the local church to pray to a deceased Scottish nun.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/29/jimmy-savile-obituary?newsfeed=true

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carterbrandon - 31 Oct 2011 15:20:08 (#310 of 17115)

pray to a deceased Scottish nun.

Praying to a live one would be a massive heresy.

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BawbagMcWimoweh - 31 Oct 2011 15:24:46 (#312 of 17115)

Has anyone actually checked whether she is a genuine Duchess or not?

oohbetty - 31 Oct 2011 15:33:35 (#313 of 17115)

RE: The Duchess. Did he keep her in the house right after she died before handing her over when he saw fit, or in a coffin post-embalming as is the custom is some places?

It's really none of my business, but y'know.

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Bensawbridge - 31 Oct 2011 17:26:48 (#315 of 17115)

Let's face it, he was a good man. A little odd but a good man.

kokolores - 31 Oct 2011 17:33:42 (#316 of 17115)

Let's have more scuttlebutt, you butt scuttlers!

urbanspacemonkey - 31 Oct 2011 17:33:49 (#317 of 17115)

My main objection to him was that he regularly ruined TOTP and "Jim'll Fix It" was shit - fully of drippy BBC friendly kids who needed a slap rather than have their pathetic dreams fulfilled. The only one I was remotely jealous of was a kid who got to be Adam and the Ants' third drummer.

TheExcession - 31 Oct 2011 17:41:27 (#318 of 17115)

At the hospital Christmas party, Jim'll really enjoyed the buffet. I hear he could often be found sampling a selection of cold meats at the NHS's expense.

JollityFarm - 31 Oct 2011 17:43:00 (#319 of 17115)

The trouble with rumours on the internet is that there's so much utter crap typed up by losers that one really needs to be non-committal in either direction until there is proof positive. Of course, plenty of people don't really care whether it's true or not, they just enjoy the sick jokes.

JohnIlly - 31 Oct 2011 18:29:08 (#320 of 17115)

they just enjoy the sick jokes

Yep. We've had some crackers.

whitbreadtrophy - 31 Oct 2011 19:45:16 (#321 of 17115)

My main objection to him was that he regularly ruined TOTP and "Jim'll Fix It" was shit

He was completely shit and like DLT he gave the impression of having absolutely no interest in music. And Jim'll Fix It belongs in the same cess pool of Saturday Night light entertainment hell occupied by Billy Cotton, Val Doonican, The Black & White Minstrels and Rolf On Saturday OK!

Sure he did a lot for Stoke Mandeville and Leeds General but he'd have done a lot more if he'd poisoned his mate Thatcher's tea while she was PM.

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LadyInGreen - 31 Oct 2011 20:46:14 (#323 of 17115)

My homophobic grandad* used to shout 'he's one of them ' at the telly in apoplectic rage when Saville was on. Since I was 5, I didn't know many of them , but now I am older and do know many of them , I think I am happy to say that they would't have had him.

* racist too - good old the 70s

urbanspacemonkey - 31 Oct 2011 20:47:36 (#324 of 17115)

Dear Jim,

could you fix it for me to have my tits groped by a vile middle aged DJ on TOTP



Coleen (aged 14)

MaisonLazlique - 31 Oct 2011 21:01:22 (#325 of 17115)

He wouldn't get within a giant cruising lounge of TheGays with that hair.

oohbetty - 31 Oct 2011 22:45:05 (#326 of 17115)

#317

Don't dis Rolf. Just don't.

schamachameleon - 31 Oct 2011 23:06:39 (#327 of 17115)

Or Val Doonican. Paddy Mc Ginty's Goat, Delaney's Donkey and Agricultural Irish Girl are fucking class.

chardonnay - 31 Oct 2011 23:07:55 (#328 of 17115)

I bet Thatch is thanking her lucky stars that her mate Jim'll died before her. Eh?

Maybe that is what has made her hang on for so long.

Piscineaste - 31 Oct 2011 23:17:03 (#329 of 17115)

To be fair, while Rolf was and is a top bloke, Rolf On Saturday was indeed shite.

tstaddon - 31 Oct 2011 23:30:26 (#330 of 17115)

I saw Rolf at Butlins (Bognor Regis) once; he did a two hour set for the kids, then a fairly normal family friendly set, and then told some jaw-droppingly rude jokes for the adults. All original jokes too.

That guy is a fucking legend.

whitbreadtrophy - 01 Nov 2011 00:02:09 (#331 of 17115)

I wasn't dissing Rolf, I was dissing Rolf On Saturday OK.

Val Doonican in that bloody rocking chair on the other hand was shite. And so was Delaney's Donkey.

Someone has to be brave enough to tell the painful TRUTH.

Antimatter - 01 Nov 2011 01:15:05 (#332 of 17115)

Hands off Val Doonican, if you don't mind.

I have just checked with MaA.

JS was great with kids, he used to do stuff like dressing up in a wet suit and snorkel, climbing in through the hospital windows and then eat their flowers. The kids loved him.

He was also great on the male paraplegic wards, especially when they were having difficulty coming to terms with the fact that they were paralysed.

It was just women he had a problem with.

So, maybe, just odd.

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WilyCoyote - 01 Nov 2011 10:41:18 (#334 of 17115)

It's beginning to look like the NTT Nonce Jotter will be unblotted by any jottings on the noncery of Savile unless we get something substantial.

I shall write him down on a post-it note though just in case.

"Savile. Wrong'un? Pending."

Not that I really want to him to have done anything, as that implies somewhere there were victims.

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TheExcession - 01 Nov 2011 11:16:24 (#336 of 17115)

A couple that I'm friends with ran into him in Scarborough. Jim'll was very enthusiastic about meeting them, particularly the woman who he persuaded to sit on his knee with much 'Now then, now then. Why don't you come and sit on Uncle Jimmy's knee then, young lady? UhUHuhUHuhUHuHUHH!'

Brunothecat - 01 Nov 2011 11:18:30 (#337 of 17115)

as that implies somewhere there were victims.

I thought they were already beyond noticing.

urbanspacemonkey - 01 Nov 2011 11:19:42 (#338 of 17115)

I just saw the Louie Theroux documentary, the weirdest thing was that he never really broke out of the inane DJ prattle that appeared to be his natural more of conversation rather than a media act.

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oohbetty - 01 Nov 2011 11:43:38 (#340 of 17115)

That didn't really happen. It was just a sexxxy dream you had, 5hats.

urbanspacemonkey - 01 Nov 2011 11:44:11 (#341 of 17115)

I don't recall that bit in the documentary

BasilSeal - 01 Nov 2011 11:45:42 (#342 of 17115)

It's in the DVD extras.

urbanspacemonkey - 01 Nov 2011 11:47:45 (#343 of 17115)

He's only been dead a couple of days and already gone from being a bog standard paedo to King of the Paedos.

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urbanspacemonkey - 01 Nov 2011 11:51:45 (#345 of 17115)

but do they anoint him as their king?

ArnoldLayne - 01 Nov 2011 13:26:14 (#346 of 17115)

"I just saw the Louie Theroux documentary, the weirdest thing was that he never really broke out of the inane DJ prattle that appeared to be his natural more of conversation rather than a media act."

That is just how they talk in ThatLeeds.

JohnIlly - 01 Nov 2011 13:44:53 (#347 of 17115)

According to the local TV news his body will be on display at the Queen's Hotel in Leeds so that fans can pay their respects.

Make up your own jokes.

Towlie - 01 Nov 2011 13:55:53 (#348 of 17115)

Leeds meet, Queen's Hotel, tonight.

Bring lube.

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shadwell - 01 Nov 2011 15:14:29 (#350 of 17115)

but do they anoint him as their king?

No, but they all sing:

For he is the paedo king!

Hurrah!

Hurrah for the paedo king!

And it is, it is a glorious thing,

To be a paedo king!

...all Gilbert and Sullivan, like.

Towlie - 01 Nov 2011 15:16:40 (#351 of 17115)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-15536935

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JohnIlly - 01 Nov 2011 15:23:10 (#353 of 17115)

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/main-section/jimmy_savile_funeral_fans_to_say_goodbye_1
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popstar7 - 01 Nov 2011 15:24:15 (#354 of 17115)

Paeds United tonight then.

oohbetty - 01 Nov 2011 15:49:32 (#355 of 17115)

It's the North, they do what they like.

54321wibble - 01 Nov 2011 15:56:13 (#356 of 17115)

We don't have as much money as the south - we have to make our own entertainment from what we have.

tstaddon - 01 Nov 2011 15:57:16 (#357 of 17115)

It's like Family Guy except there'll be someone outside selling sticks to poke the dead guy with.

SHIT, that's my idea for Dragons Den up in smoke

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tstaddon - 01 Nov 2011 16:03:13 (#361 of 17115)

Heron. We're not THAT posh.

SlasherBindman - 01 Nov 2011 16:04:03 (#362 of 17115)

er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh

Towlie - 01 Nov 2011 16:05:01 (#363 of 17115)

Are you going to view the coffin then, Slasher?

I bet you are.

WilyCoyote - 01 Nov 2011 16:22:52 (#364 of 17115)

Oh, someone who worked with Sir Jimmell a couple of times has just told me something, but there's no way in hell I am posting it from work.

I will do it when I get home....

RankBajin - 01 Nov 2011 16:24:19 (#365 of 17115)

DO IT RIGHT NOW

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popstar7 - 01 Nov 2011 16:25:09 (#367 of 17115)

We Need To Talk About Jim'll

WilyCoyote - 01 Nov 2011 16:25:22 (#368 of 17115)

I will, I will.

JollityFarm - 01 Nov 2011 16:27:44 (#369 of 17115)

On threads about celebrity gossip, there is little more annoying than someone coming in to tell you they've got the most explosive rumour, but they can't say anything or they'll be killed. Wily had better make good on his after work promise or we'll all know him as a charlatan and a fake forever more.

Brunothecat - 01 Nov 2011 16:48:49 (#370 of 17115)

He will be abducted by aliens on the way home. It is now unavoidable.

JohnIlly - 01 Nov 2011 16:51:21 (#371 of 17115)

I'm sure that the local TV news said that his body would be on display. Perhaps the hotel objected to an open coffin for elf 'n' safety reasons.

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JohnIlly - 01 Nov 2011 16:59:16 (#373 of 17115)

Will there be any of his past lovers throwing themselves into his grave?

toffle - 01 Nov 2011 17:02:49 (#374 of 17115)

They won't be able to fuck him if the coffin lid is closed.

PrimePaon - 01 Nov 2011 17:05:48 (#375 of 17115)

Hopefully there will be a glory hole available.

FergusonPybus - 01 Nov 2011 17:10:20 (#376 of 17115)

"sinister charabanc", with quotes, is a googlewhack.

col2001 - 01 Nov 2011 17:11:46 (#377 of 17115)

As is "righteous charabanc".

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chillisauce - 01 Nov 2011 17:22:09 (#379 of 17115)

Any excuse.

JohnIlly - 01 Nov 2011 17:28:50 (#380 of 17115)

This will cause chaos in the middle of Leeds if queues build up.

WilyCoyote - 01 Nov 2011 17:42:33 (#381 of 17115)

Hello, am home.

Anyway, I showed the link about Sir Jim being in a coffin in Leeds to my colleague, who seemed vaguely upset at the idea of Sir Jim “lying in state”, and then went off on a rant about him for about five minutes and called him a “dirty old fucker.”

In the 80s, my colleague worked for a certain British board game manufacturer, and was responsible for the marketing on their best selling product – a world famous footy-based gamed that involved flicking pieces of plastic about.

However, it was beginning to look a bit tired and video games were becoming more popular, so they wanted to relaunch it to broaden its appeal, particularly to girls.

They brought in a PR company who hit upon the snazzy idea of combining the 40th anniversary of said game with a national campaign involving footballers and celebs going into schools to play kids, particularly girls, at this game. Chief celeb number one was “Jim”, who would visit a number of schools to “fix it” for the girls to be footballers (geddit? It was the 80s………)

The campaign worked brilliantly. There was plenty of press coverage in national and local media, even internationally, and there was even a puff piece on Blue Peter. You possible saw it.

However, after a couple of school visits it became increasingly apparent that “Jim” was an absolute liability when it came to the attention he paid certain young ladies.

The marketing team from the certain British board games manufacturer quickly developed “standing orders” for dealing with “Jim”, namely that:

When on school premises, escort “Jim” everywhere. Particularly during toilet breaks. In case he ends up in the wrong toilet. Again.

Choose girls who look under 13 or over 18 for any up-close stuff. They were apparently “safe”.

Under no circumstance leave “Jim” alone with any female aged from about 14 to 17.

My colleague said there was loads more, but he then had a bit of a wobble about it and wouldn’t say any more.

I shall work on him tomorrow.

That is all.

Brunothecat - 01 Nov 2011 17:45:13 (#382 of 17115)

Well really. All that and dreadful tracksuits.

Ta for that.

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kokolores - 01 Nov 2011 17:50:01 (#384 of 17115)

world famous footy-based gamed

Was that Waddington's Dribble and Shoot?

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urbanspacemonkey - 01 Nov 2011 17:52:14 (#386 of 17115)

An ex-girlfriend of mine had met him when she was 14 on a schooltrip and she said that all her friends thought he was bit pervey. Plus there is the Coleen Nolan incident.

WilyCoyote - 01 Nov 2011 17:53:22 (#387 of 17115)

#380 Aye, that's the one.

kokolores - 01 Nov 2011 17:55:43 (#388 of 17115)

Shoot yer Waddington!

MaxGogarty - 01 Nov 2011 18:00:42 (#389 of 17115)

Even anecdotal evidence that he had a (truly shocking) attraction to fertile young women and lacked the social skills to deal with that appropriately does not excuse the vileness of this thread. It's the same mentality that gleefully smeared Chris Jefferies.

Brunothecat - 01 Nov 2011 18:02:31 (#390 of 17115)

Never heard of him. Do repeat it.

kokolores - 01 Nov 2011 18:07:49 (#391 of 17115)

Come on Max, you know you want to smear Chris Jefferies!

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JollityFarm - 01 Nov 2011 19:22:03 (#394 of 17115)

Thanks for giving us gossip properly (and not being a fake and a charlatan), Wily.

Of course, Wily's friend might be a fake and/or charlatan, so remember to keep your mind a little bit open even while enjoying the sick jokes.

RankBajin - 01 Nov 2011 19:42:17 (#395 of 17115)

Yes, let's all keep our mind open about a creepy fiddlist.

chardonnay - 01 Nov 2011 20:31:25 (#396 of 17115)

Which is worse I wonder, being goosed by Jimell Fixit or married to Shane Richie.

SalfordLad - 02 Nov 2011 02:47:55 (#397 of 17115)

This is developing into a Savile Row.

Suits me.

BigJoe - 02 Nov 2011 02:51:05 (#398 of 17115)

You forgot your coat.

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SalfordLad - 02 Nov 2011 07:57:58 (#401 of 17115)

Looks like I've been collared!

Towlie - 02 Nov 2011 08:09:39 (#402 of 17115)

Fuck off.

CaptainBlack - 02 Nov 2011 09:44:32 (#403 of 17115)

Apparently he's going to be 'lying in state' in Leeds. Necrophiliacs, now's your big chance.

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 02 Nov 2011 09:45:54 (#404 of 17115)

Unless he's dressed in his vest, shellsuit and jewellery, in which case he'll be lying in a state.

Towlie - 02 Nov 2011 09:45:56 (#405 of 17115)

Really? WHO KNEW?

oohbetty - 02 Nov 2011 11:29:04 (#406 of 17115)

Captainblack is rubbish at spoilers these days.

SlasherBindman - 02 Nov 2011 11:59:47 (#407 of 17115)

Will be buried in his track suit and gold jewellery? With votive objects such as a cigar to aid his voyage to the afterlife.

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oohbetty - 02 Nov 2011 13:21:41 (#409 of 17115)

Jewellery jewellery, jinglejangle, nowthennowthen.

PatMcGann - 02 Nov 2011 13:36:17 (#410 of 17115)

Is Savile noncing up the Nolan on Youtube?

urbanspacemonkey - 02 Nov 2011 15:40:40 (#411 of 17115)

For those who aren't ardent fans of the Nolan sisters, it's at 3.30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JygLGzNhiD8

BuddhaPest - 02 Nov 2011 18:38:58 (#412 of 17115)

yuck

chardonnay - 02 Nov 2011 18:41:51 (#413 of 17115)

I take it you'd choose the Shane Richie option

sevdalinke - 02 Nov 2011 19:27:52 (#414 of 17115)

Pretty tame, by any standards. Don't DJs squeeze young girls like, all the time?

chardonnay - 02 Nov 2011 19:28:51 (#415 of 17115)

Like Jonathan King?

sevdalinke - 02 Nov 2011 19:30:15 (#416 of 17115)

Nowadays it's more like ho's and bitches.

JohnIlly - 02 Nov 2011 20:06:47 (#417 of 17115)

Don't DJs squeeze young girls like, all the time?

Very very few of the girls are 14.

MadamZsaZsa - 02 Nov 2011 20:14:12 (#418 of 17115)

That wasn't just a matey squeeze, that was copping a feel.

urbanspacemonkey - 02 Nov 2011 20:31:59 (#419 of 17115)

I'm sure Jonathan King never squeezed any young girls

chardonnay - 02 Nov 2011 20:33:45 (#420 of 17115)

Jimmy Savile would have done well to have followed his example in that regard

toffle - 03 Nov 2011 01:11:42 (#421 of 17115)

Anyway, whether he was a nonce is irrelevant. He was a DJ, and that is a far more serious crime.

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Antimatter - 03 Nov 2011 01:51:07 (#423 of 17115)

I have to ask, what were the reasons that he stopped working at Leeds Royal?

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SalfordLad - 03 Nov 2011 07:28:43 (#425 of 17115)

Perhaps he wanted to take work home with him.

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frantastic - 03 Nov 2011 09:47:44 (#427 of 17115)

Did he feel dead earnest?

shadwell - 03 Nov 2011 11:09:14 (#428 of 17115)

So are the crowds flocking?

54321wibble - 03 Nov 2011 11:15:25 (#429 of 17115)

I don't think that would really be appropriate even if it is what he would have wanted









Oh sorry you said FLOCKing

shadwell - 03 Nov 2011 11:19:23 (#430 of 17115)

Ayethangyew!

MCShufflesLastJourney - 03 Nov 2011 12:03:14 (#431 of 17115)

There was a mortuary attendant in a hospital in West London who, it transpired, had his girlfriend visit him occasionally on his night shift.

He was fired.

oohbetty - 03 Nov 2011 12:04:58 (#432 of 17115)

Cool story, bro.

Luce28 - 03 Nov 2011 13:54:58 (#433 of 17115)

Shamelessly stolen from elsewhere, but this has just made me snigger hugely: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/arts/television/
jimmy-savile-tv-personality-dies-at-84.html?_r=2

MaisonLazlique - 03 Nov 2011 14:01:24 (#434 of 17115)

At Christmastime the children’s present was a trip to a department store to see the toys.

shadwell - 03 Nov 2011 14:22:13 (#435 of 17115)

Mr. Savile never married, though in talking of women he often described himself as a Lothario who could never be trapped into staying all night. “Good heavens,” he said in a 2000 BBC television profile, “anything more than two hours — brain damage!”

Information on survivors was unavailable.

Yike!

Cavewoman - 03 Nov 2011 14:30:20 (#436 of 17115)

From above link:-

The coffin, alas, will be closed.

Class.

Leftie - 03 Nov 2011 16:21:54 (#437 of 17115)

That's a dreaful article and why do the New York Times care?

BuddhaPest - 03 Nov 2011 18:06:49 (#438 of 17115)

Mr. Freeman was one of a rotating cast of co-hosts and guest hosts that over time included Davy Jones of the Monkees and Elton John. This arrangement, Mr. Savile often said, was to avoid overexposing himself.

Bensawbridge - 03 Nov 2011 18:14:20 (#439 of 17115)

I agree. Its a fucking crap article.

solomongursky - 03 Nov 2011 18:18:56 (#440 of 17115)

Bloody Hell, anyone read Popbitch?

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WilyCoyote - 03 Nov 2011 18:32:37 (#442 of 17115)

I read Popbitch. I was going to cut and paste but then the formatting went all weird when I tried to post it in here.

Towlie - 03 Nov 2011 18:32:48 (#443 of 17115)

Yeah!

WilyCoyote - 03 Nov 2011 18:33:29 (#444 of 17115)

Apologies for formatting.

Since Popbitch launched in 2000, we've often been asked which celebrity we'd had most stories about. It's not David Beckham. Nor even Paul Danan. "Jimmy Savile", was always the answer. Among a host of strange rumours is this one, the strangest. It involved Mr Savile, a penchant for necrophilia... and access to the morgue at Leeds General Infirmary which, the story went, he was given in return for his charity work. We've been told this story by probably 100+ people - including two DJs, six journalists and a member of the House of Lords - it was even supposed to be one of Larry Grayson's favourite yarns. But most often it was told to us by a Leeds resident, the Rev Goatboy, late of this parish, who always promised to leave the evidence to support this wild theory with one reliable person, on condition we'd only use it after Savile's death. Sadly, none of us can remember who was supposed to have been the guardian of this evidence. So we have none. We'll have to add this magnificent rumour to the pantheon of apocraphal celebrity stories for now. Unless it's you that has the evidence... (if so: hello@popbitch.com, please)

WilyCoyote - 03 Nov 2011 18:33:42 (#445 of 17115)

Oh, it worked.

Yay!

RankBajin - 03 Nov 2011 18:33:51 (#446 of 17115)

Popbitch basically said they are close to getting corpse fucking proof

MaisonLazlique - 03 Nov 2011 18:39:46 (#447 of 17115)

But they haven't got it.

Towlie - 03 Nov 2011 18:40:24 (#448 of 17115)

Losers.

feckless - 03 Nov 2011 18:42:56 (#449 of 17115)

Bah.

chardonnay - 03 Nov 2011 18:43:35 (#450 of 17115)

Sounds like a dead letter to me

MaxGogarty - 03 Nov 2011 18:44:30 (#451 of 17115)

Maybe there's no proof because it was made up by inadequates.

chardonnay - 03 Nov 2011 18:45:13 (#452 of 17115)

Or because there are no witnesses alive to tell the tale

solomongursky - 03 Nov 2011 18:46:30 (#453 of 17115)

Popbitch also linked to a bonkers page on David Icke's website, I think some of the people mentioned are still alive. Best not link.

urbanspacemonkey - 03 Nov 2011 18:46:48 (#454 of 17115)

I just read that, completely barmy and has actually made me feel quite ill, how does Icke getaway with it?, I'm scared to even utter a word of it.

BlankChank - 03 Nov 2011 19:11:44 (#455 of 17115)

A unifying conspiracy theory that incorporates Jimmy Savile, Lord Rothschild, Margaret Hodge and the Kray Twins certainly can't be described as unambitious in scale.

RankBajin - 03 Nov 2011 19:19:34 (#456 of 17115)

I doubt we will ever get proof that Sir Jinglejangle fucked corpses.

All we have is tittle tattle and heresay.

But, given that he was a corpse fucker, that's enough for me.

feckless - 03 Nov 2011 19:23:26 (#457 of 17115)

If he'd done it at all recently, I'd expect someone to have recorded it on their phone.

Yes - that's right, picture the scene.

chardonnay - 03 Nov 2011 19:24:00 (#458 of 17115)

Dead men don't do kiss and tell

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 03 Nov 2011 19:26:48 (#459 of 17115)

If that nice nurse at the LGI is to be believed, it predated the use of cameras on mobile phones. He was at Stoke Mandeville for about 15 years, wasn't he?

popstar7 - 03 Nov 2011 19:28:35 (#460 of 17115)

Popbitch got nothing. Like Garrick I'm staring to think the weird old fucker didint have anything criminal to hide after all.

Towlie - 03 Nov 2011 19:29:49 (#461 of 17115)

Listen here, popstar, I saw him in the flesh at Otley market once. The shorts he was wearing were obscenely short. The kind a deviant would wear.

So think on.

54321wibble - 03 Nov 2011 19:32:04 (#462 of 17115)

Look - I've never knowingly met a corpse fucker, and I've never knowingly met Jimmy Savile, therefore...

popstar7 - 03 Nov 2011 19:32:41 (#463 of 17115)

Jesus, how long did the nightmares last?

Towlie - 03 Nov 2011 19:35:46 (#464 of 17115)

They are still keeping my therapist in fine wines and foreign holidays.

RankBajin - 03 Nov 2011 19:38:39 (#465 of 17115)

popstar is clearly part of the conspiracy.

popstar7 - 03 Nov 2011 19:41:50 (#466 of 17115)

No, I'm part of a different conspiracy altogether.

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RankBajin - 03 Nov 2011 19:48:56 (#468 of 17115)

Look, I didn't know she was 6ft under, more like.

popstar7 - 03 Nov 2011 19:50:55 (#469 of 17115)

Self-deprecation is a high-risk humour strategy for a suspected corpse-shagger.

FleurDuMal - 03 Nov 2011 19:54:26 (#470 of 17115)

But most often it was told to us by a Leeds resident, the Rev Goatboy, late of this parish

I do not believe that anyone was genuinely called 'the Rev Goatboy'. That has to be made up.

RankBajin - 03 Nov 2011 19:55:17 (#471 of 17115)

Er, yes.

Towlie - 03 Nov 2011 19:55:41 (#472 of 17115)

Fucking hell.

54321wibble - 03 Nov 2011 19:56:42 (#473 of 17115)

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2011/11/03/apoclaypse-now-then/

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oohbetty - 03 Nov 2011 20:08:56 (#475 of 17115)

Towlie, being from Leeds, were your parents acquainted with Mr Savile at all?

Towlie - 03 Nov 2011 20:15:10 (#476 of 17115)

Sadly, betty, I am only an immigrant to Leeds, and not a true Loiner born and bred, so no.

oohbetty - 03 Nov 2011 20:27:35 (#477 of 17115)

Ah right. No chance of him being your real dad then?

FleurDuMal - 03 Nov 2011 20:29:36 (#478 of 17115)

heh!

Towlie - 03 Nov 2011 20:30:31 (#479 of 17115)

Well no, my mum is alive.

BigJoe - 03 Nov 2011 20:40:00 (#480 of 17115)

lol @ Towlie

chardonnay - 03 Nov 2011 20:44:44 (#481 of 17115)

I should hope so. She's only 30 after all.

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Towlie - 03 Nov 2011 20:52:01 (#483 of 17115)

I had a hard paper round.

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JohnIlly - 03 Nov 2011 22:26:47 (#486 of 17115)

I know a nurse who has worked at LGI for many years and she has no gossip, I'm afraid.

urbanspacemonkey - 04 Nov 2011 00:00:29 (#487 of 17115)

I do find it hard to imagine that Jim could regularly roger corpses without anyone noticing, unless he manages to keep them all quiet due to his underworld connections or because they think he's a smashing bloke off the telly.

Leftie - 04 Nov 2011 00:01:25 (#488 of 17115)

Maybe he bribed them with gold and cigars. Or offered them a free dedication on the radio.

urbanspacemonkey - 04 Nov 2011 00:05:10 (#489 of 17115)

or he let them sit in his magic chair and handed out unauthorized Jim'll Fix It medallions

BlankChank - 04 Nov 2011 09:47:29 (#490 of 17115)

Is necrophilia a victimless crime?

shadwell - 04 Nov 2011 11:26:25 (#491 of 17115)

So are there any photos of thousands filing past the coffin yet? All I can find in today's press is this:

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/central-leeds/sir_jimmy_savile_s_commando_training_ordeal_
exclusive_1_3936017


And the only scurrilous insinuation I can draw from it is that Savile was left-handed.

Leftie - 04 Nov 2011 13:18:17 (#492 of 17115)

Clearly that's more evidence right there then.

JohnIlly - 04 Nov 2011 14:02:59 (#493 of 17115)

I think that the Lying in State is on Tuesday. Avoid the centre of Leeds.

FleurDuMal - 04 Nov 2011 14:04:22 (#494 of 17115)

Fortunately I'm not in Leeds on Tuesday.

Towlie - 04 Nov 2011 14:14:26 (#495 of 17115)

I am!

FleurDuMal - 04 Nov 2011 14:20:07 (#496 of 17115)

Well at least you now have something to occupy you at lunchtime.

shadwell - 04 Nov 2011 15:04:16 (#497 of 17115)

I think that the Lying in State is on Tuesday.

Just on Tuesday? Are there not thousands clammering to file past the coffin? Does it really take that long to fit the animatronics?

chardonnay - 04 Nov 2011 15:05:29 (#498 of 17115)

Book of condolence?

oohbetty - 04 Nov 2011 15:09:06 (#499 of 17115)

A Savile book of condolence would make an interesting read.

popstar7 - 04 Nov 2011 15:18:08 (#500 of 17115)

Horrible flashback to the Ayatollah Khomeni's funeral, I just had. Let's hope the people of Leeds don't allow their grief to overcome them in such an undignified manner.

FleurDuMal - 04 Nov 2011 15:19:25 (#501 of 17115)

I'm fairly sure they won't.

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PatMcGann - 04 Nov 2011 15:28:48 (#503 of 17115)

The Ayatollah's funeral was ace.

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urbanspacemonkey - 04 Nov 2011 15:32:01 (#505 of 17115)

There were a fair few corpse touchers in the crowd that day

urbanspacemonkey - 04 Nov 2011 15:36:27 (#506 of 17115)

... and secret close up TV pictures reveal a blonde haired white dude in a gold lame tracksuit starting the disturbance ...

Towlie - 04 Nov 2011 16:03:10 (#507 of 17115)

I might go to view the coffin, if it's not raining, and there's nothing better to do.

crackfox - 04 Nov 2011 16:04:20 (#508 of 17115)

Is there free entry?

Towlie - 04 Nov 2011 16:06:12 (#509 of 17115)

It better be free, I'm not paying.

JohnIlly - 04 Nov 2011 16:06:46 (#510 of 17115)

Surely there be a charidee collection?

BuddhaPest - 04 Nov 2011 16:29:07 (#511 of 17115)

It will be well guarded by the police. You'll need to penetrate the ring of steel.

oohbetty - 04 Nov 2011 16:30:03 (#512 of 17115)

Take pics and comments from the book of condolence.

DO IT.

popstar7 - 04 Nov 2011 16:35:48 (#513 of 17115)

Don't forget to shout out CLUNK-CLICK, YOU KIDDY-FIDDLING WEIRDO as the coffin is loaded into the hearse.

54321wibble - 04 Nov 2011 16:50:14 (#514 of 17115)

Play it safe - shove a stake through his heart

sevdalinke - 04 Nov 2011 16:54:37 (#515 of 17115)

Don't forget to shout

And run after the hearse, banging angrily on the side.

Leftie - 04 Nov 2011 16:55:01 (#516 of 17115)

"Is there free entry?"

Hahahahaha.

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TheExcession - 04 Nov 2011 18:07:58 (#518 of 17115)

All these unkind comments... you know he'll come back and haunt us, particularly those of us who have impressionable teenage daughters. All you'll hear will be the faint jingle-jangling of jewellery in the dead of night and you'll catch a whiff of cigar smoke before the words "How's about that then guys and gals?" appear in blood on the walls.

Leftie - 04 Nov 2011 22:07:44 (#519 of 17115)

Like a perverted Marley.

chardonnay - 04 Nov 2011 22:12:26 (#520 of 17115)

Bob, Jacob or Jennifer Aniston's Labrador?

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Leftie - 04 Nov 2011 22:51:26 (#522 of 17115)

LOL

JessicaEccles6 - 05 Nov 2011 15:30:10 (#523 of 17115)

I am still traumatised by the vision of him climbing through children's hospital windows dressed in a wetsuit.

That's eeven more frightening than Pennywise the Clown.

StakludKar - 06 Nov 2011 16:01:48 (#524 of 17115)

btw,

The thing about Colleen Nolan must be semi-public knowledge.

I posted on it, because the Nolan sisters themselves (on some BBC1 nostalgia documentary about TOTP in its 70's heyday) were recounting (cheerily, which was even more gobsmacking) how they had to form a human shield round Colleen to stop her being chased round by Savile on set.

Euuuugghhhhhh



Colleen wasn't in that actual interview.



Had no idea about the Auberon Waugh obit though. Tried googling it and not come up with anything.

When Cyril Smith died last year there were fawning tributes from all the papers, and I suppose he's still thought of by most people as a kindly fat eccentric. It took Private Eye and Kevin Maguire in the Mirror to point out there were sworn affadvits that he used to abuse boys in the local care home which Smith never sued for libel over.

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StakludKar - 06 Nov 2011 16:15:48 (#526 of 17115)

*returns from googling*

Oh ok maybe she was interviewed after all

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Jim'll+feel+it%3B+FI
X+IT+HERO+GOT+A+TOUCH+FRIENDLY.-a0190508322


Byline: BY PETER ROBERTSON

"THIS is the moment when a normally mild-mannered Nolan sister almost turned nasty.

Coleen Nolan revealed the horror she felt when she was intimately cuddled by TV presenter Jimmy Savile as a young teenager on Top Of The Pops.

Now aged 43 and a panelist on ITV 1s Loose Women, Coleen says Maureen, Anne, Bernie and Linda - performing as The Nolan Sisters - glowered at the then 53-year old Savile as he held Coleen tightly under her right breast. Footage of the incident was shown on a BBC2 documentary We Are Family, which was broadcast on Saturday, December 6.

Coleen, who had been an audience guest on that 1979 edition of TOTP , a year before joining her family's group, said: "I stood next to Jimmy.

"I was 14, and he was all over me.

"I could see my sisters glaring: 'You touch her and we'll kill you!' "And they would have." "

PrimePaon - 06 Nov 2011 16:17:25 (#527 of 17115)

Nah, they wouldn't have.

Bellycat - 06 Nov 2011 16:33:55 (#528 of 17115)

page not found

JohnIlly - 06 Nov 2011 16:49:54 (#529 of 17115)

http://tinyurl.com/d4df4zt

Leftie - 06 Nov 2011 18:13:21 (#530 of 17115)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/fashion/2011/nov/06/jimm
y-savile-fashion-guru-style

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Leftie - 06 Nov 2011 20:22:13 (#532 of 17115)

http://www.people.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2011/11/06/sir-jimmy-saville-set-to-snub-family-in-will-102039-23540984/

His sister had 19 kids?! Have I read that right?

And I mean "had" as in "is the parent of". So no filth!

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Leftie - 06 Nov 2011 20:25:04 (#534 of 17115)

Well yes.

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Leftie - 06 Nov 2011 20:31:23 (#536 of 17115)

I want to go and have a look and check if it really is 45 degrees.

RankBajin - 06 Nov 2011 20:31:40 (#537 of 17115)

Really?

fuck me, but you are odd.

urbanspacemonkey - 06 Nov 2011 20:32:57 (#538 of 17115)

Do you have a large enough protractor?

Leftie - 06 Nov 2011 20:39:50 (#539 of 17115)

Well they shouldn't make claims like that.

chardonnay - 06 Nov 2011 20:46:08 (#540 of 17115)

I would want to ensure there is a stake through the heart to stop him rising again.

RankBajin - 06 Nov 2011 20:46:35 (#541 of 17115)

Oh for the love of shitting fucking Christ.

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

Brunothecat - 06 Nov 2011 20:48:15 (#542 of 17115)

No, whoever started a thread about it must be a right tit.

chardonnay - 06 Nov 2011 20:48:20 (#543 of 17115)

What do you mean it doesn't matter if he rises again? Are you seriously saying you wouldn't care if a zombified Jimell Fixit roamed the Earth? Wont someone think of the children?

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chardonnay - 06 Nov 2011 20:52:20 (#545 of 17115)

The dead's fucker FFS

moto748 - 06 Nov 2011 20:52:48 (#546 of 17115)

Well, he must be pretty set by now.

ChachaChazz - 06 Nov 2011 21:21:01 (#547 of 17115)

I was at a meeting last week in Leeds and got a taxi from the station just outside the Queens Hotel where it is lying in state. I asked the taxi driver if there had been a lot of grief tourists coming in and he said "no one gives a fookin chuff about the old puff".

That's Leeds for you.

Leftie - 06 Nov 2011 21:21:27 (#548 of 17115)

I am not sure why the nephew even wanted to talk to the press. I would have told them to cock off.

chardonnay - 06 Nov 2011 21:23:16 (#549 of 17115)

Well, at least you made the effort to make the journey to Leeds to pay your respect Chaz

toffle - 06 Nov 2011 22:29:01 (#550 of 17115)

I am not sure why the nephew even wanted to talk to the press.

Quite often they offer money.

MadamZsaZsa - 06 Nov 2011 22:30:27 (#551 of 17115)

Well, if it's the only money he's going to get courtesy of Uncle Jim...

Leftie - 06 Nov 2011 22:59:39 (#552 of 17115)

I suppose.

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Leftie - 06 Nov 2011 23:03:35 (#554 of 17115)

This has just appeared on the front page a few mins ago.

Hospital Hands

- Advice 06-Nov-2011 23:00:26 (22 posts, 0 new)

Sir Jimmy Savile dies aged 84

- Media 06-Nov-2011 22:59:39 (548 posts, 0 new)

gumlygumly - 06 Nov 2011 23:18:29 (#555 of 17115)

if jimmy comes back as a zombie he will be a fit as fuck running wrestling cycling zombie,think of the potential plotlines and spinoffs...

Brunothecat - 06 Nov 2011 23:20:01 (#556 of 17115)

Emerging from the pit, breaking in to the nearest cigar shop then off in search of

gumlygumly - 06 Nov 2011 23:31:16 (#557 of 17115)

a moments silence pleas for the funeral march http://youtu.be/dh6wtATgJRs ...

SlasherBindman - 07 Nov 2011 09:06:02 (#558 of 17115)

Savile sings (Very Unlikely, 1962):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWplR88v208

SlasherBindman - 07 Nov 2011 09:07:45 (#559 of 17115)

Jarvis Cocker's tribute to Sir Jimmy Savile begins 50 minutes into this programme:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ptsjd/episodes/
player

frantastic - 07 Nov 2011 10:17:34 (#560 of 17115)

HIGNFY strangely brief on the Jimell issue. Was anyone here at the recording?

Leftie - 07 Nov 2011 10:59:27 (#561 of 17115)

I had no idea he'd made any records I'm ashamed to say.

Not the worst singing I've heard. Certainly nothing more horrible than other singers around that time.

Though the B-side is pretty xenophobic.

ArnoldLayne - 07 Nov 2011 12:18:15 (#562 of 17115)

A Leeds man, xenophobic? Whatever next.

SlasherBindman - 07 Nov 2011 12:35:57 (#563 of 17115)

"City of thicko cavemen", according to trainspotter.

Towlie - 07 Nov 2011 12:37:33 (#564 of 17115)

Isn't he from Castleford or Pontefract or some other BNP armpit town? Because that's a trifle rich.

ArnoldLayne - 07 Nov 2011 13:58:18 (#565 of 17115)

""City of thicko cavemen", according to trainspotter."

My girlfriend loves the song Life On Mars by the David Bowie, particularly because the lines:

See the wrong man beating up the wrong guy

Oh man, look at those cave-men go....

remind her of growing up in Meanwood.

Towlie - 07 Nov 2011 13:58:54 (#566 of 17115)

Cool story, bro.

Brunothecat - 07 Nov 2011 15:04:24 (#567 of 17115)

Meanwood sounds like it should be in GTA San Andreas.

Towlie - 07 Nov 2011 15:05:23 (#568 of 17115)

Fuck off! There's a Waitrose now, and bar with plate glass windows that does platters.

Leftie - 07 Nov 2011 15:07:59 (#569 of 17115)

I read that as "Patters". Which gave me a very funny image of said poster.

JosephPublican - 07 Nov 2011 15:08:36 (#570 of 17115)

Meanwood contained an odd mix of the leafy suburban and grimly proletarian flavours of death when I lived there.

Towlie - 07 Nov 2011 15:11:01 (#571 of 17115)

It's well gentrified now, Yusuf. Even The Primrose has taken down the 'NO DEALING' signs.

FleurDuMal - 07 Nov 2011 15:11:09 (#572 of 17115)

Meanwood is better than a lot of Leeds, to be fair.

SlasherBindman - 07 Nov 2011 15:14:14 (#573 of 17115)

Even The Primrose has taken down the 'NO DEALING' signs.

And the handwritten cardboard sign "STRIPPERS - THURSDAY NIGHT".

ArnoldLayne - 07 Nov 2011 16:13:15 (#574 of 17115)

"There's a Waitrose now, and bar with plate glass windows that does platters."

And an Alfred bar, and right next to that, the infamous "Conny" club, probably the inspiration for that David Bowie song. A suburb of contrasts.

I keep being threatened with a trip to the Conny Club, her dad is a member. It sounds horrible.

PatMcGann - 07 Nov 2011 16:15:50 (#575 of 17115)

What the fuck is the Conny Club?

ArnoldLayne - 07 Nov 2011 16:17:10 (#576 of 17115)

A working men's club, The Conservative Club.

Affiliated, I believe, to the Conservative Party, but I doubt any of its members vote for that, it sounds rough as dog's boots.

Towlie - 07 Nov 2011 16:17:45 (#577 of 17115)

One day, Arnold, do you fancy braving the Conservative Club near us?

Towlie - 07 Nov 2011 16:18:16 (#578 of 17115)

I expect they have a Savile shrine, just to keep this tawdry thread on topic.

ArnoldLayne - 07 Nov 2011 16:18:55 (#579 of 17115)

Not much more than I fancy braving the Meanwood Connie club, although I would like to see if there are photos of Jimmy Savile on the walls of either venue.

ArnoldLayne - 07 Nov 2011 16:19:03 (#580 of 17115)

Snap.

Towlie - 07 Nov 2011 16:19:37 (#581 of 17115)

There's a Savile pic in the Sheesh, if I recall correctly.

ArnoldLayne - 07 Nov 2011 16:20:10 (#582 of 17115)

I'll never touch their raita again.

Towlie - 07 Nov 2011 16:20:29 (#583 of 17115)

And definitely one in Little Tokyo.

'The gyozas look just like a corpse's fingers!'

ArnoldLayne - 07 Nov 2011 16:21:17 (#584 of 17115)

I suspect the photo of him in Meanwood Connie Club is the one with Frank Bruno and Peter Sutcliffe.

SlasherBindman - 07 Nov 2011 17:15:26 (#585 of 17115)

There was a photo of him in the Flying Pizza last time I was there.

Is Marcel's cafe in Meanwood worth a visit?

Towlie - 07 Nov 2011 17:20:04 (#586 of 17115)

Only if Savile went there.

RankBajin - 07 Nov 2011 18:09:44 (#587 of 17115)

As per fucking usual, a perfectly crommulent thread has been given LeedsAIDS.

Stop it right now.

BlankChank - 07 Nov 2011 18:51:36 (#588 of 17115)

Are there any nice bits of Leeds? I've been to the student area, but where do poshos live - Roundhay, Alwoodley?

Meanwood just doesn't sound very pleasant, like Splott in Cardiff.

SlasherBindman - 07 Nov 2011 20:08:27 (#589 of 17115)

Are there any nice bits of Leeds? I've been to the student area, but where do poshos live - Roundhay, Alwoodley?

In the NE suburbs such as Alwoodley, Shadwell and Roundhay, then slightly further out in commuter belt rustic places like Thorner, Wike, Scarcroft, East Keswick and Harewood. A lot of poshos go further and move to Harrogate or beyond. Savile had a flat on the edge of Roundhay Park.

In the NW of the city, places like Rawdon, Guiseley, Weetwood, Adel and West Park. Possibly bits of Horsforth.

Meanwood has its moments, but is probably too full of students to achieve poshness.

South Leeds can be forgotten about.

RankBajin - 07 Nov 2011 20:09:38 (#590 of 17115)

I spent an afternoon in a public house in Leeds in the company of a mardy goth and a sarcastic Northern woman.

I shall not be doing that again.

Good day to you all.

FleurDuMal - 07 Nov 2011 20:09:43 (#591 of 17115)

Basically, north Leeds. The nearer you get to Harrogate, the posher it is.

FleurDuMal - 07 Nov 2011 20:10:10 (#592 of 17115)

mardy goth

You mean Towlie?

RankBajin - 07 Nov 2011 20:10:44 (#593 of 17115)

Pardon?

DavidT999 - 08 Nov 2011 08:12:10 (#594 of 17115)

The world might be going bankrupt but BBC Breakfast covers his coffin being delivered for a lying in state.

Surely he should be lying in a state?

Looks like his coffin is surrounded by Ferrero Rocher.

DavidT999 - 08 Nov 2011 08:14:38 (#595 of 17115)

He's being buried at an angle of 45 degrees so he can see the sea.

That's odd, I would have thought he'd have been buried at an angle of 45 degrees face down in his normal pose.

ArnoldLayne - 08 Nov 2011 08:16:21 (#596 of 17115)

Hustlers Row in Meanwood Park, is lovely, it is like being in the Dales, but with Waitrose and a couple of good bars within five minutes walk, Chank.

ArnoldLayne - 08 Nov 2011 08:17:11 (#597 of 17115)

Harrogate, Pool, Arthington are all very nice, probably the poshest suburbs of Leeds.

SalfordLad - 08 Nov 2011 08:20:44 (#598 of 17115)

I was reading that his final resting place will be kept secret.

Just in case.

shadwell - 08 Nov 2011 09:36:17 (#599 of 17115)

Looks like his coffin is surrounded by Ferrero Rocher.

Free sweets! Get your free sweets!

Towlie - 08 Nov 2011 09:37:48 (#600 of 17115)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-15632264

Shadrack22 will be tweeting live from the Queen's Hotel later on this morning.

Towlie - 08 Nov 2011 11:42:09 (#601 of 17115)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/08/leeds-pays-tribute-jimmy-savile

Shadrack22 there, taking a picture through his tears of grief.

Towlie - 08 Nov 2011 11:42:37 (#602 of 17115)

There will also be a tribute from Broadmoor secure psychiatric hospital where he worked as a volunteer porter.

Oh, mercy.

FleurDuMal - 08 Nov 2011 11:54:13 (#603 of 17115)

Aren't you going to go and pay your respects?

Towlie - 08 Nov 2011 11:59:23 (#604 of 17115)

Dunno, what time are they closing?

Sportinglesbian - 08 Nov 2011 12:00:51 (#605 of 17115)

I'm gonna go and watch the funeral live. You know, as it happens.

Beelzebub71 - 08 Nov 2011 12:02:37 (#606 of 17115)

Hahahahahaha @605

relurks

ottoline07 - 08 Nov 2011 12:04:38 (#607 of 17115)

I was a bit disappointed with the goldness of his gold coffin, although it's possible that my tears have obscured it's shininess.

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solomongursky - 08 Nov 2011 12:25:17 (#609 of 17115)

Can't they wheel him around with

the Olympic Torch so we can all pay our respects? Two birds innit?

JohnIlly - 08 Nov 2011 12:29:34 (#610 of 17115)

A brilliant idea, solomon.

shadwell - 08 Nov 2011 12:31:57 (#611 of 17115)

Indeed. And I still maintain that plastination and animatroncis was the way forward. It's definitely what he would have wanted.

Towlie - 08 Nov 2011 13:23:08 (#612 of 17115)

I have just spoken to someone who lives in noted Savile haunt Otley, and he says that the creepy fucker used to go around Otley town centre poncing food and drink off people, despite being a rich cunt.

SlasherBindman - 08 Nov 2011 13:24:36 (#613 of 17115)

With Sir Jimmy's passing, some of the colour has left Leeds.

Towlie - 08 Nov 2011 13:30:07 (#614 of 17115)

Mate of a mate went to have a look at lunchtime, I am awaiting the pics.

SlasherBindman - 08 Nov 2011 13:38:02 (#615 of 17115)

I thought of doing the same thing, but thought it might be in poor taste. Some of us standards, you know.

ottoline07 - 08 Nov 2011 13:48:46 (#616 of 17115)

So all the rest of the ghouls going to gawp are doing it in good taste?

SlasherBindman - 08 Nov 2011 13:49:28 (#617 of 17115)

News just in:

Please note the following road closures in Leeds City Centre due to arrangements for Sir Jimmy Saville’s funeral tomorrow, Wednesday 9th November 2011.

The roads affected are:

Cookridge Street: Closed between The Headrow and Great George Street for most of the day.

All Parking Bays between Calverley Street and Dudley Way, and Loading Bays between Great George Street and Rossington Street will also be suspended.

St Annes Street: Closed between The Light Car Park Access and Cookridge Street for most of the day.Great George Street: Closed between Calverley Street and Dudley Way, from 1pm to 6pm.

The Loading Bay between Cookridge Street and Dudley Way will also be suspended for most of the day.

Dudley Way: Will become a two-way road for most of the day. The Light car park will remain open, however from 1pm to 6pm vehicles will only be able to leave the car park because of the Great George Street closure.

For information, the funeral cortege will leave the Queen’s Hotel at around 1.30pm and proceed into the Woodhouse area of the city before returning to St Anne’s Cathedral on Cookridge Street between 1.45 and 1.50pm.

Motorists are advised to allow extra time for journeys in and around the city centre during much of the day, particularly during the funeral procession.

ottoline07 - 08 Nov 2011 13:50:38 (#618 of 17115)

It's what Saville would have wanted. Road closures.

chardonnay - 08 Nov 2011 13:52:51 (#619 of 17115)

Just goes to show that this is the age of the train after all.

PatMcGann - 08 Nov 2011 13:54:40 (#620 of 17115)

Leeds has gone mental.

SlasherBindman - 08 Nov 2011 13:55:55 (#621 of 17115)

Our greatest celebrity, after Barry Cryer and the lead singer from Smokie.

ottoline07 - 08 Nov 2011 13:56:42 (#622 of 17115)

I will actually be genuinely a little bit sad when Barry Cryer dies.

ArnoldLayne - 08 Nov 2011 13:57:11 (#623 of 17115)

"Our greatest celebrity, after Barry Cryer and the lead singer from Smokie."

And John Craven.

SlasherBindman - 08 Nov 2011 14:08:44 (#624 of 17115)

Also, Jack Shepherd (lugubrious actor) went to Chapel Allerton Primary.

Towlie - 08 Nov 2011 14:09:41 (#625 of 17115)

What about Mel B, eh? How soon you forget.

Even the skies are weeping for Savile, who will be buried in his Help for Heroes wristband.

Towlie - 08 Nov 2011 14:10:01 (#626 of 17115)

She was the Scary Spice, Slasher.

ArnoldLayne - 08 Nov 2011 14:12:04 (#627 of 17115)

Don't be too saddened at Savile's passing - what with James Martin and Chris Moyles, Leeds will be still well represented in the National Treasure stakes for many years to come!

ArnoldLayne - 08 Nov 2011 14:12:45 (#628 of 17115)

Although no-one will remember who the Kaiser Chiefs were by 2014 - I read that somewhere the other day.

fizzgog - 08 Nov 2011 14:13:39 (#629 of 17115)

Who?

ArnoldLayne - 08 Nov 2011 14:14:35 (#630 of 17115)

It isn't 2014 yet.

ArnoldLayne - 08 Nov 2011 14:15:20 (#631 of 17115)

Ah, this was the article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/oct/27/when-bands-fall-off-cliffs?INTCMP=SRCH

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ArnoldLayne - 08 Nov 2011 14:19:54 (#633 of 17115)

Indeed.

Towlie - 08 Nov 2011 14:26:54 (#634 of 17115)

I will NEVAR FORGET the Runston Parvas.

Towlie - 08 Nov 2011 14:35:48 (#635 of 17115)

I love CiF.

how this government could learn a few things about looking after people from him

Yes, they could. Shame on you, David Cameron.

While some of his antics may have seemed a bit sleazy, somehow you always felt (unlike Gary Glitter, for instance, who always came over as a slimeball), that it was all harmless and perfectly innocent.

All harmless and perfectly innocent.

Late 1960's - my neighbour's in the local bakers with her baby in the pushchair. Jimmy Saville walks in and, while waiting to be served, makes the expected fuss over the baby. Only later on does my neighbour find the five-pound note Saville has tucked into the baby's blanket. I bet you'd find there a lot of stories like this about the man.

Tucked into the baby's blanket. Yes. I bet you would find a lot of stories like that about him.

ArnoldLayne - 08 Nov 2011 14:37:36 (#636 of 17115)

"I will NEVAR FORGET the Runston Parvas."

I bet you couldn't hum one of their "tunes".

Towlie - 08 Nov 2011 14:37:58 (#637 of 17115)

he put back a hell of a lot for a hell of a lot of people (many of whom didn't even know about it).

Oh, this is just too easy.

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ottoline07 - 08 Nov 2011 14:54:52 (#639 of 17115)

Like I said elsewhere, it's raining, it's middle-aged women at a loose end.

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ottoline07 - 08 Nov 2011 14:57:25 (#641 of 17115)

Haha. I must apologise as it seems fans of all ages have turned up to pay their respects.

Fans of all ages with the common unifying characteristic of being unemployed.

Sportinglesbian - 08 Nov 2011 15:05:39 (#642 of 17115)

Apparently, thousands have turned up to file past his coffin.

Is that the Savile Row?

shadwell - 08 Nov 2011 15:14:40 (#643 of 17115)

See (and hear) them flock:

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/central-leeds/video_fans_pay_respects_to_leeds_s_own_sir_j
immy_savile_at_queens_hotel_1_3947000

FleurDuMal - 08 Nov 2011 15:24:40 (#644 of 17115)

Hmmm, call me cynical, but I bet that's going to be used as an excuse for students to be late/absent tomorrow ...

JohnIlly - 08 Nov 2011 15:39:01 (#645 of 17115)

Leeds will be still well represented in the National Treasure stakes for many years to come

Well, Jim will soon be buried treasure.

SlasherBindman - 08 Nov 2011 16:45:24 (#646 of 17115)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/gallery/2011/nov/08/l
eeds-jimmy-savile?picture=381559992

ottoline07 - 08 Nov 2011 16:51:26 (#647 of 17115)

I'm loving the picture of the 5 usual suspects. Is the one in the middle Sutcliffe on community leave?

JohnIlly - 08 Nov 2011 16:53:12 (#648 of 17115)

Which one of the 5 posts here?

SlasherBindman - 08 Nov 2011 17:00:57 (#649 of 17115)

Towlie

TheExcession - 08 Nov 2011 17:29:33 (#650 of 17115)

Maybe they could bury Chris Moyles as well whilst they're at it? The knocking sounds from beneath the earth would stop after a bit.

JohnIlly - 08 Nov 2011 17:31:37 (#651 of 17115)

He must have had that coffin ordered well in advance. Do undertakers keep steel coffins in stock?

HerpDerp - 08 Nov 2011 17:47:06 (#652 of 17115)

Almost christmas too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN2vQtgMk_4

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JohnIlly - 08 Nov 2011 18:26:08 (#654 of 17115)

Being dead was a great career move for Jacko, perhaps Jim saw the opportunity.

shadwell - 08 Nov 2011 22:17:19 (#655 of 17115)

Is the moniker "Sir Jim'll" in the common parlance or was it one of you lot interviewed on the Radio 4 PM programme tonight?

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BigJoe - 08 Nov 2011 23:10:26 (#658 of 17115)

Smokie lead singer .... thought they were from Bradford.

Barry Cryer ... ISIHAC is back next week - hurrah.

5 usual suspects What is that guy wearing on his head? HE sounded embarrassed talking to the cameras on the clip I saw but a white head band? Really?

solomongursky - 08 Nov 2011 23:12:11 (#659 of 17115)

Barry Cryer ... ISIHAC is back next week - hurrah.

Yay! Best laugh in showbizz.

SlasherBindman - 09 Nov 2011 09:04:54 (#660 of 17115)

Smokie lead singer .... thought they were from Bradford

Lived in Bramhope. As did Eddie Waring.

DavidT999 - 09 Nov 2011 10:33:45 (#661 of 17115)

For the first time I am irritated with the Beeb, apparently you can watch the funeral on Beeb website.

Waste of money.

The newsreader also helpfully informed me that Sir Jim was a big donor funding medical research.

I'll let you make your own jokes up at this news.......

JosephPublican - 09 Nov 2011 10:49:17 (#662 of 17115)

He invented many new medicines, including Savilon, an ointment that combines lubricant and embalming properties.

Leftie - 09 Nov 2011 14:01:53 (#663 of 17115)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/nov/09/jimmy-savile-leeds-funeral-mass

A woman this morning was on TV, moaning that the coffin wasn't gold and that was the only reason she went.

WilyCoyote - 09 Nov 2011 14:19:13 (#664 of 17115)

In danger of giving this thread LeedsAIDS again, does The Primrose still have the gammy handed midget and his impossibly large wife running the place?

I lived two minutes up Meanwood Road from there....

AbuLaith - 09 Nov 2011 15:00:31 (#665 of 17115)

My dear parents finding me somewhat tardy in the development stakes sent me to the local school for handicapped children in Brighton from the age of 3 to 6.As a consequence, I was interviewed by the deceased for his Sunday radio show. Happily, I didn't fall into the teen girl category so emerged relatively unscathed, although I recall his breath or body odour was repulsive.Too much charity running I can only presume.

ArnoldLayne - 09 Nov 2011 15:01:20 (#666 of 17115)

This thread doesn't have LeedsAIDS, it has MeanwoodAIDS. Cho.

shadwell - 09 Nov 2011 15:06:22 (#667 of 17115)

#667

bah!

JohnIlly - 09 Nov 2011 15:44:54 (#668 of 17115)

Nothing else of note has happened today in Yorkshire if the local BBC lunchtime news is to be believed.

BlankChank - 09 Nov 2011 16:33:22 (#669 of 17115)

And still the MSM are holding back the copious kiddy fiddler/necrophilia stories. It can only because they have been got at by Margaret Hodge and the Rothschilds.

blummm - 09 Nov 2011 16:49:04 (#670 of 17115)

Did he specify which end his head was to be when they bury the coffin at 45 degrees?

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LadyDi - 09 Nov 2011 20:03:30 (#672 of 17115)

I think his body should have been in state in the local morgue. That would have been more appropriate

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Leftie - 09 Nov 2011 22:10:14 (#674 of 17115)

And it's not even what killed him somewhat ironically.

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Leftie - 09 Nov 2011 22:19:24 (#676 of 17115)

Cunt. I'm don't have an allergy actually.

MadamZsaZsa - 09 Nov 2011 23:06:19 (#677 of 17115)

I giggled when one of his chums was asked if Sirjim was lonely, whereupon he eulogised about all his friends and how he walked with kings. "He was friends with Margaret Thatcher!"

An ok guy then...

Leftie - 11 Nov 2011 14:55:58 (#678 of 17115)

Good grief, despite him being buried in another region, Jimmy's final resting place was on my local news.

They confirmed it is at a 45 degree angle and then Colin Briggs said "ah, how touching".

snigger

ottoline07 - 11 Nov 2011 14:56:45 (#679 of 17115)

I don't understand.

JohnIlly - 11 Nov 2011 15:10:09 (#680 of 17115)

"He'll have a view of the sea."

Apart from being inside a steel coffin, six feet underground and DEAD.

Brunothecat - 11 Nov 2011 15:11:42 (#681 of 17115)

He's underground now, with your dead grannie. A comforting thought.

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Towlie - 11 Nov 2011 15:25:52 (#683 of 17115)

Bloke here is from Scarborough and says he wouldn't be able to see the sea from the cemetry even if he was alive, the stupid dead weirdo.

FleurDuMal - 11 Nov 2011 15:29:20 (#684 of 17115)

I feel sorry for the poor gravediggers - it must be a bugger trying to dig a grave for a coffin at a 45% angle.

Towlie - 11 Nov 2011 15:33:01 (#685 of 17115)

I expect they just lied.

Towlie - 11 Nov 2011 15:33:21 (#686 of 17115)

And robbed all his jewellry and HOPE FOR HEROES wristband.

JohnIlly - 11 Nov 2011 15:33:56 (#687 of 17115)

I've look at GoogleEarth and he would be able to see the sea "If it wasn't for the houses in between".

ottoline07 - 11 Nov 2011 15:34:31 (#688 of 17115)

Is he buried with The Duchess? It's what she would have wanted.

Bellycat - 11 Nov 2011 15:34:48 (#689 of 17115)

buried up the Duchess

shadwell - 11 Nov 2011 15:37:45 (#690 of 17115)

Is he still dead, then?

JohnIlly - 11 Nov 2011 15:39:09 (#691 of 17115)

He didn't appear on the third day so we're awaiting his second coming.

As it were.

54321wibble - 11 Nov 2011 15:43:13 (#692 of 17115)

What I dont understand is is his head 6 feet under or his feet? If it's his feet, his head will be almost sticking out of the top. If it's his feet, the poor gravedigger has had to dig a very deep hole...

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JohnIlly - 11 Nov 2011 15:47:04 (#694 of 17115)

Isn't there some group which already does that so they'll be ready for resurrection, or something?

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popstar7 - 11 Nov 2011 16:03:05 (#696 of 17115)

It's obviously some kind of creepy masonic thing.

Towlie - 11 Nov 2011 16:03:36 (#697 of 17115)

Yeah, I bet he was a mason. Looks the type.

Leftie - 11 Nov 2011 16:08:53 (#698 of 17115)

Stone-dead mason.

Towlie - 11 Nov 2011 16:16:27 (#699 of 17115)

No, a Freemason.

shadwell - 11 Nov 2011 16:18:56 (#700 of 17115)

Any miracles attested yet? It can only be a matter of time.

+700

StakludKar - 13 Nov 2011 14:10:37 (#701 of 17115)

700!!

He even got mentioned on Thought For The Day the other morning, with sanctimonious Clifford Longley opining that Savile was a 'holy fool' who had to bear the cross of jibes about his personal life and alleged rumours whilst he carried out simple acts of charity.

There hasn't been a special tribute prog to Savile yet has there? They normally cut together talking heads and vox pops fairly quickly... unless I missed it and it was on during the One Show

54321wibble - 13 Nov 2011 14:14:59 (#702 of 17115)

There was one before Have I got news for you on Friday

ottoline07 - 13 Nov 2011 14:18:16 (#703 of 17115)

Michael Balls was eugoogilizing him yesterday on R4. Saying he had a disabled actor (?) friend who was stuck out in Foreign and he wrote to Sir Jimmel asking for help to get him back to the UK and Jimmel did indeed fix it for him to be transferred to Stoke Mandeville, where Balls saw him every time he went to visit, being a porter and winding everyone up.

ChachaChazz - 13 Nov 2011 14:22:10 (#704 of 17115)

That's pretty much trafficking.

ottoline07 - 13 Nov 2011 14:23:04 (#705 of 17115)

Hahaha.

Bellycat - 13 Nov 2011 14:30:29 (#706 of 17115)

I can't believe the BBC are resurrecting Jim'll Fix It and are looking for contestants.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/shows/beonashow
/jimll_fix_it

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54321wibble - 13 Nov 2011 14:42:22 (#708 of 17115)

Oh no - it's kids only...

I wonder which Jim they'll get to present it. Jimmy Carr?

ottoline07 - 13 Nov 2011 14:45:07 (#709 of 17115)

Krankie obviously.

chardonnay - 13 Nov 2011 14:50:44 (#710 of 17115)

Jim Davidson, Jim Corr or Jim Kerr.

Or all three.

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ChachaChazz - 13 Nov 2011 14:53:37 (#712 of 17115)

Madeleine McCann?

StakludKar - 13 Nov 2011 17:24:11 (#713 of 17115)

haha!Sorry.

LadyDi - 14 Nov 2011 11:03:35 (#714 of 17115)

I'm interested in his links with the Royal Family. They all seemed to like him a lot ...

Leftie - 14 Nov 2011 11:20:11 (#715 of 17115)

My eyes were assaulted this morning by a picture of Jimmy in a newspaper, with no top on sticking his thumbs in the air.

The actual story involves Jimmy sending a kidney machine by helicopter to a man with learning difficulties who was in hospital.

Good job it wasn't being sent by Noel.

ChachaChazz - 14 Nov 2011 11:34:13 (#716 of 17115)

Again, there is something really creepy about that.

mazylou - 14 Nov 2011 12:15:19 (#717 of 17115)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-15717221

Towlie - 14 Nov 2011 12:16:39 (#718 of 17115)

securely backfill

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shadwell - 14 Nov 2011 12:40:51 (#720 of 17115)

securely backfill

All well and good. But what if he digs his way out through the bottom of the coffin and comes up next to the grave?

FleurDuMal - 14 Nov 2011 12:43:18 (#721 of 17115)

Well he's not going to get much of a sea view through all that then.

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LadyDi - 14 Nov 2011 13:05:34 (#724 of 17115)

Possibly he's radioactive and that would explain the concrete

shadwell - 14 Nov 2011 13:08:47 (#725 of 17115)

It's steel, it should slow him down a bit.

A bit, maybe. But his stomach acid and various other bodily fluids will corrode the metal eventually and he'll be away. He didn't get that green beret by lying around in a coffin.

FleurDuMal - 14 Nov 2011 13:09:34 (#726 of 17115)

I thought Ann Bronte was buried in Whitby?

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FleurDuMal - 14 Nov 2011 13:10:29 (#728 of 17115)

Maybe he wants to avoid post-death buggery?

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surferboogiewhatever - 14 Nov 2011 17:56:50 (#730 of 17115)

I thought Ann Bronte was buried in Whitby?

That's Anne Brontë.

Leftie - 14 Nov 2011 20:51:38 (#731 of 17115)

Chaz, Jimmy had a small pot belly.

Leftie - 29 Nov 2011 09:41:05 (#732 of 17115)

Genuine newspaper headline I read today.

"The day Jim fixed it for the hospice".

SlasherBindman - 29 Nov 2011 10:04:08 (#733 of 17115)

Sometimes I lean out of the car window and do the Jimmy Savile Tarzan noise just to astound pedestrians.

toffle - 29 Nov 2011 11:13:39 (#734 of 17115)

Are you sure it's the noise that's doing the astounding?

And are you sure they're astounded, rather than simply disturbed?

popstar7 - 29 Nov 2011 12:04:13 (#735 of 17115)

Were you driving on the M5 in Somerset the other week by any chance, Slasher?

Leftie - 29 Nov 2011 12:18:26 (#736 of 17115)

Heh.

SlasherBindman - 29 Nov 2011 13:02:11 (#737 of 17115)

er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh

Towlie - 29 Nov 2011 13:03:44 (#738 of 17115)

The disturbing thing is, that having met you, I can now picture you doing that, and it is scaring me.

SlasherBindman - 29 Nov 2011 13:08:52 (#739 of 17115)

Also, shouting in a NE accent "Haway, sooooon!"

JohnIlly - 29 Nov 2011 14:04:09 (#740 of 17115)

Don't do it near a cemetery or you'll be arrested for kerb crawling.

Leftie - 30 Nov 2011 12:18:07 (#741 of 17115)

That's a dreadful impersonation, Slasher.

Leftie - 02 Dec 2011 22:20:34 (#742 of 17115)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2069358/Jimmy-Saviles-secret-lover-The-eccentric-DJs-girlfriend-43-years-talks-frankly-VERY-unconventional-life-together.html

MadamZsaZsa - 02 Dec 2011 22:36:16 (#743 of 17115)

If that's the woman who was with him the day I met him at the LGI, I thought she was his carer!

Leftie - 02 Dec 2011 23:16:50 (#744 of 17115)

Hahahaha.

JohnIlly - 03 Dec 2011 10:16:56 (#745 of 17115)

her romance with ‘Jim’, as she called him

What a wacky person she must be.

Leftie - 14 Dec 2011 14:40:32 (#746 of 17115)

BBC4 biopic on the way, apparently.

No main "star" cast yet though. Suggestions on a postcard.

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oonnell - 14 Dec 2011 14:46:51 (#748 of 17115)

Chris Langham.

Bellycat - 14 Dec 2011 14:51:57 (#749 of 17115)

The Duchess and Princess Diana

Towlie - 14 Dec 2011 18:28:52 (#750 of 17115)

Jerry Sadowitz.

JohnIlly - 14 Dec 2011 20:08:07 (#751 of 17115)

Have they checked with Jim's agent to determine whether he is free for the gig himself?

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Leftie - 15 Dec 2011 00:25:03 (#753 of 17115)

And he's not here to give out cigars.

Steady John. They've spent time putting that coffin at a 45 degree angle. They can't just drag him out now.

RankBajin - 15 Dec 2011 08:29:26 (#754 of 17115)

Things just gelled. Jimmy drove a camper van in those days and it seems he carried Christine out of the cafe caveman-style on the day. And things happened from there.

Hmmmmm

oonnell - 15 Dec 2011 08:34:21 (#755 of 17115)

Clubbed her over the head and dragged her by the hair?

That counts as romance in Leeds I suppose.

JohnIlly - 15 Dec 2011 10:11:38 (#756 of 17115)

Everyone needs a bit of foreplay.

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oonnell - 15 Dec 2011 10:13:44 (#758 of 17115)

Everyone needs a bit of foreplay.

I thought that was when he had her tied up in his camper van and stubbed out his cigars on her?

JohnIlly - 15 Dec 2011 11:27:12 (#759 of 17115)

I'm afraid that this resurrected thread is still displaying the bad taste it started with.

Well done, everybody.

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urbanspacemonkey - 15 Dec 2011 12:32:10 (#761 of 17115)

Indeed, her errant father appearing on telly every week fixing it for all those other kids.

ChiliFiredNappyRash - 28 Dec 2011 18:59:30 (#762 of 17115)

A whole hour of Saville on BBC2 starting right now.

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Leftie - 28 Dec 2011 21:05:48 (#764 of 17115)

He made a remark to an ill woman in hospital about her having a see-through nightie.

Piscineaste - 29 Dec 2011 00:06:57 (#765 of 17115)

I chuckled most at the little girl grooming Sir Jim'll, not to mention the Fixit (title?) footage if him shepherding 3 kids into the back of a car.

SlasherBindman - 03 Jan 2012 20:30:32 (#766 of 17115)

He made a remark to an ill woman in hospital about her having a see-through nightie

Come on. He was just trying to cheer her up.

Honi soit qui mal y pense!

Leftie - 03 Jan 2012 20:31:44 (#767 of 17115)

Come on, you aren't expecting sensible, nice things on this thread are you?

chardonnay - 03 Jan 2012 21:03:57 (#768 of 17115)

Honi soit qui mal y nonce, more like

Leftie - 03 Jan 2012 21:04:12 (#769 of 17115)

Tsk.

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Leftie - 09 Jan 2012 12:25:28 (#771 of 17115)

It's all a bit "they said this" isn't it?

The Mail are claiming something about the BBC who in turn who were apparently going to report something someone else said etc etc.

And whatever the BBC do, they're wrong according to the Mail regardless.

CaptainBlack - 10 Feb 2012 08:46:00 (#772 of 17115)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/
9073142/BBC-buried-Savile-sex-abuse-claims-to-save-its-reputation.html

EchoChamber - 10 Feb 2012 11:51:13 (#773 of 17115)

What do people think about the campaign to rename Leeds Bradford Airport the Sir Jimmy Savile Airport?

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 10 Feb 2012 12:09:33 (#774 of 17115)

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/yep-letters/let_s_fly_with_sir_jimmy_1_2203504

A letter. From 2009. Almost certainly from a mental.

EchoChamber - 10 Feb 2012 12:18:34 (#775 of 17115)

Oh bollocks, I thought it was all my idea.

Leftie - 10 Feb 2012 13:25:04 (#776 of 17115)

Mail at it again.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099141/BBC-shelved-Savile-sex-abuse-investigation-protect-reputation.html

JohnIlly - 10 Feb 2012 14:07:09 (#777 of 17115)

I see that according to Wiki his coffin was later encased in concrete "as a security measure".

Was that to keep people out or keep him in?

DonkeyOT - 10 Feb 2012 15:25:44 (#778 of 17115)

Is this the tip of a very large iceberg, I wonder?

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/bbc-denies-burying-jimmy-savile-sex-abuse-investigation/

JohnIlly - 10 Feb 2012 16:19:02 (#779 of 17115)

It's taken longer than I would have expected to emerge.

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oonnell - 10 Feb 2012 16:24:00 (#781 of 17115)

It's taken longer than I would have expected to emerge.

That'll be due to the concrete surrounding his coffin.

Questicles - 11 Feb 2012 12:05:28 (#782 of 17115)

UhahUhahUhgate?

Electro - 11 Feb 2012 13:49:19 (#783 of 17115)

Now then, now then....

Questicles - 11 Feb 2012 14:07:02 (#784 of 17115)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Saville#Career_
and_personal_life


".. there have been trains and, with apologies to the hit parade, boats and planes (I am a member of the 40,000 ft club) and bushes and fields, corridors, doorways, floors, chairs, slag heaps, desks and probably everything except the celebrated chandelier and ironing board."

It is outrageous that the BBC did not provide chandeliers and an ironing board in the dressing room of such an exeptional performer.

Electro - 11 Feb 2012 14:14:31 (#785 of 17115)

he preferred al fresco...

http://www.radiorewind.co.uk/images/jimmy_saville_
park_frame.jpg

StakludKar - 11 Feb 2012 14:37:17 (#786 of 17115)

whoa, from that Telegraph article:

Reporters on the current affairs programme were also told of claims that two other celebrities, both still alive, sexually abused girls at Television Centre in the 1970s.

Who? Ch**s L****am was working as a bit player in comedies around then. Can you libel someone who's already been convicted of a similar offence?

Questicles - 11 Feb 2012 14:49:33 (#787 of 17115)

Defamation is open season, but perhaps libel is different.

StakludKar - 11 Feb 2012 14:51:25 (#788 of 17115)

Can I just say then that that little factoid about CL working at BBCTV centre was PURELY COINCIDENTAL to the earlier story. Thanks!

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Towlie - 10 Apr 2012 13:23:42 (#790 of 17115)

Who is up for this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-17662363

Towlie - 10 Apr 2012 13:24:47 (#791 of 17115)

The tour has been set-up by local guide Ken Goor

Ken posts on here as SlasherBinderman, by the way.

BlankChank - 10 Apr 2012 16:41:25 (#792 of 17115)

Anyone who has been watching the TOTP reruns knows that DJs goosing frightened teenagers was practically de rigeur in them days.

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BuddhaPest - 10 Apr 2012 19:12:51 (#797 of 17115)

I'm on tenterhooks. Do you think he managed it?

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Towlie - 10 Apr 2012 19:16:48 (#799 of 17115)

The book, priced at £5.99, can also now be bought from Bowness News at Gildersome Green, Morley Market Newsagents, Atkins newsagents, Market Place, Birstall, Howden Clough Self Service Store and the Shoulder of Mutton pub, Bruntcliffe.

SlasherBindman - 10 Apr 2012 19:52:40 (#800 of 17115)

Funnily enough Toil, I once went on a walking tour in Leeds city centre led by this character. It was all about the history of various spit and sawdust pubs like the Scarborough and the General Elliot. One of the group peered through the window of the Duncan and was nearly assaulted by a complete stranger.

Towlie - 10 Apr 2012 20:29:33 (#801 of 17115)

Why am I not suprised?

The Scarborough isn't spit and sawdust, mind.

SlasherBindman - 10 Apr 2012 20:34:48 (#802 of 17115)

The Savile tour should of course take in the Flying Pizza on Street Lane. He used to dine there with his minder.

Towlie - 10 Apr 2012 20:35:44 (#803 of 17115)

Sat under the stairs, so he could gaze up the skirts of teens.

mazylou - 10 Apr 2012 20:36:06 (#804 of 17115)

The Flying Pizza used to be the BBC restrong of choice. Us newsroom girls took Harry Gration and John Thirlwell there for a nice lunch before they got married.

EchoChamber - 10 Apr 2012 21:03:57 (#805 of 17115)

How's your campaign to have Leeds-Bradford airport renamed The Sir Jimmy Savile Airport coming along, Slasher?

Leftie - 10 Apr 2012 21:04:47 (#806 of 17115)

Can you imagine the messages over the tannoy?

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chardonnay - 10 Apr 2012 21:56:30 (#808 of 17115)

It's gay up North

mazylou - 10 Apr 2012 22:41:55 (#809 of 17115)

It's been a long day, and my punctuation and ability to write has gone more awry than usual. They got married to ladies.

RankBajin - 10 Apr 2012 23:26:07 (#810 of 17115)

The Sir Jimmy Savile International Airport would be a wonderful tribute.

Especially if they made school girls go through them full body scanner things.

solomongursky - 10 Apr 2012 23:31:43 (#811 of 17115)

slag heaps

Filth.

tstaddon - 11 Apr 2012 07:04:18 (#812 of 17115)

Would the tannoy go "UhUhUhUh Na then, Na then!"

tstaddon - 11 Apr 2012 07:05:59 (#813 of 17115)

"I have a passenger call for XXXX wot says, UhUhUhUh, D-dear Jim..."

Towlie - 11 Apr 2012 07:24:57 (#814 of 17115)

Brilliant.

RankBajin - 11 Apr 2012 07:33:49 (#815 of 17115)

Aye.

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TheExcession - 12 Apr 2012 11:11:44 (#817 of 17115)

You'd be able to get some wonderful gold chains in the duty free shop.

Jingle-jangle jingle-jangle...

whitbreadtrophy - 12 Apr 2012 13:27:25 (#818 of 17115)

The Sir Jimmy Savile International Airport would be a wonderful tribute.

Just as John Lennon Airport has the tagline "Above us only sky" they can call it, in tribute to his Sunday morning R1 show :

Jimmy Savile Airport

"It was... The Leeds Bradford Inernational Airport and you get no points if you missed out Bradford."

54321wibble - 12 Apr 2012 14:33:31 (#819 of 17115)

Or the letter "t"

whitbreadtrophy - 12 Apr 2012 15:06:43 (#820 of 17115)

Crappy Dell keyboard...

frantastic - 13 Apr 2012 12:59:48 (#821 of 17115)

ell me abou i !

whitbreadtrophy - 13 Apr 2012 15:51:55 (#822 of 17115)

Dell Keyboards: The Norman Collier of computer hardware.

frantastic - 16 Apr 2012 13:04:21 (#823 of 17115)

Sir Jim'll Airport could have a natty slogan like Preswick International's awful "Pure Dead Brilliant" but with a comma after the second word.

andswivel - 16 Apr 2012 13:07:34 (#824 of 17115)

“National treasure my arse. If you knew the reality.” Andy Kershaw

http://patricia1957.wordpress.com/

Bellycat - 17 Apr 2012 09:53:48 (#825 of 17115)

Don't bother clicking the link if you're looking for any more. That is it...

VendorOfQuackNostrum - 17 Apr 2012 10:17:24 (#826 of 17115)

And, as former Radio One DJ and former Ents Sec at Leeds University, Kershaw would have known Saville as well as many.

It's funny how the 'National Treasure' tag has been given by people knowing him from his public persona, whereas people who knew him IRL reckoned he was a sleaze merchant of the first water.

JohnIlly - 17 Apr 2012 15:46:42 (#827 of 17115)

Well, he's now a National Buried Treasure.

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Towlie - 17 Apr 2012 16:00:51 (#829 of 17115)

Yep.

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VendorOfQuackNostrum - 17 Apr 2012 16:01:27 (#831 of 17115)

Yes, he did; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/isle_of_ma
n/7786278.stm

shadwell - 04 May 2012 12:22:05 (#832 of 17115)

This may already have been on the TOTP'77 thread, but...

from 24.54 to 24.57:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01h5j0j/

Don't have nightmares, kids.

Leftie - 04 May 2012 12:28:16 (#833 of 17115)

Savile will no doubt appear on "Britain Beware" on Monday.

Leftie - 14 Jun 2012 13:18:01 (#834 of 17115)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northerner/2012/jun/14/jimmy-savile-leeds-charities-alison-bellamy-yorkshire-evening-post

"Higher-profile issues remain mysterious, notably the truth or otherwise of the claims by Georgina Ray to have been fathered by Savile with a 19-year-old waitress in a camper van parked at the caff on the A5 near Cannock. Her search for 'closure' has held up probate of Savile's generous will."

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oonnell - 14 Jun 2012 13:36:36 (#837 of 17115)

That's my wank bank nicely topped up.

Thank you sir from the bottom of my heart.

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LadyDi - 19 Jun 2012 14:55:22 (#839 of 17115)

now THIS is surreal

FleurDuMal - 19 Jun 2012 15:04:18 (#840 of 17115)

#836 - that is revolting!

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SlasherBindman - 28 Jun 2012 22:06:57 (#842 of 17115)

Place your bids:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2012/jun/28/jimmy-savile-treasures-auction

Leftie - 29 Jun 2012 07:20:16 (#843 of 17115)

No thanks.

SalfordLad - 29 Jun 2012 07:26:02 (#844 of 17115)

I can't imagine wanting to own anything that once belonged to JS.

MrMoth - 17 Jul 2012 11:09:06 (#845 of 17115)

Even THIS:

http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/dreweatts/catalogue-id-2864602/lot-14800346

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FleurDuMal - 17 Jul 2012 11:17:36 (#847 of 17115)

Urgh!

oonnell - 17 Jul 2012 11:18:14 (#848 of 17115)

Just imagine what sort of things that eye has witnessed.

Bellycat - 17 Jul 2012 11:18:26 (#849 of 17115)

That is fabulously creepy

FleurDuMal - 17 Jul 2012 11:19:01 (#850 of 17115)

Just imagine what sort of things that eye has witnessed.

Just when I thought it couldn't get any more revolting ...

MysteryDate - 17 Jul 2012 13:26:18 (#851 of 17115)

"Part of a Top of the Pops outfit"

Brilliant.

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ChachaChazz - 17 Jul 2012 22:55:42 (#854 of 17115)

LOL

JohnIlly - 17 Jul 2012 23:33:21 (#855 of 17115)

a mounted Brazil nut

What's the name for that perversion? Nuxophile?

MrMoth - 18 Jul 2012 00:40:33 (#856 of 17115)

Hank - is this the suit from your on-again-off-again avatar?

http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/dreweatts/catalogue-id-2864602/lot-14800279

MrMoth - 18 Jul 2012 00:44:14 (#857 of 17115)

Love the 'Racist hat' lot.

http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/dreweatts/catalogue-id-2864602/lot-14800483

ChiliFiredNappyRash - 18 Jul 2012 04:11:39 (#858 of 17115)

How accurate are the estimates? They all seem on the high side to me, they reckon they're going to get a ton for three comedy wigs?

DavyHulme - 18 Jul 2012 08:37:59 (#859 of 17115)

Estimates are usually on the lower side to tempt the bidders but with celebrity auctions its a case of anything/everything goes.

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oonnell - 18 Jul 2012 09:20:24 (#861 of 17115)

You'll have to bid for it.

Who knows what sort of a wronger will end up owning it if you don't.

MCShufflesLastJourney - 18 Jul 2012 09:22:25 (#862 of 17115)

wear a track suit to the auction. nobody else will think of that.

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oonnell - 18 Jul 2012 09:43:57 (#864 of 17115)

Who knows, his malevolent spirit might still inhabit some of those items. You could end up being possessed by him.

Towlie - 18 Jul 2012 09:44:25 (#865 of 17115)

I like to think he already is.

oonnell - 18 Jul 2012 09:45:08 (#866 of 17115)

Great stuff. More sordid wank fantasies for me then.

FleurDuMal - 18 Jul 2012 09:45:18 (#867 of 17115)

Now then, now then, now then ...

oonnell - 18 Jul 2012 09:46:10 (#868 of 17115)

That's what I say when I come while imagine Sir Jim'll tongueing a corpse.

FleurDuMal - 18 Jul 2012 09:46:30 (#869 of 17115)

<unsubscribes>

Leftie - 18 Jul 2012 10:34:53 (#870 of 17115)

He'll be jingling and jangling at the front door like old Marley.

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JohnIlly - 23 Jul 2012 10:07:32 (#873 of 17115)

Shouldn't all this stuff have been donated to a Sir Jimmy Savile Museum?

Which could then be burnt down.

Rendered - 23 Jul 2012 10:09:54 (#874 of 17115)

Only buy the sweatshirt if you're planning to re-create that scene, Hank.

oonnell - 23 Jul 2012 10:10:22 (#875 of 17115)

Which could then be burnt down.

Nonsense.

School tour parties would love to be escorted about such a place while minimum wage staff re-enact great moments from Savile's life using all the items in the museum.

FleurDuMal - 23 Jul 2012 10:10:29 (#876 of 17115)

Those links are blocked by our work system. I'm intrigued ...

ChachaChazz - 29 Jul 2012 20:55:56 (#877 of 17115)

How much more like Rillington Place could it look without a Golden Virginia tin of pubes for sale?

http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/dreweatts/catalogue-id-2864602/lot-14800312

On second thoughts, not many pubes to be found in his priest hole.

FGBFGB - 29 Jul 2012 21:58:02 (#878 of 17115)

Who is the Peter Sutcliffe-a-like greeting Frank Bruno?

chardonnay - 29 Jul 2012 21:58:50 (#879 of 17115)

Sutcliffe himself.

FGBFGB - 29 Jul 2012 22:01:46 (#880 of 17115)

Oh, right.

<unsurprised>

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ChachaChazz - 29 Jul 2012 22:10:36 (#882 of 17115)

To a Scandi style loving homo that frilly chandelabra is as close to a 50s sex murderer's garret as you could get.

FGBFGB - 29 Jul 2012 22:13:04 (#883 of 17115)

I imagine Rillington Place as more a bare lightbulb sort of place - maybe a dust-covered cloth job for best.

Bt that just might be the film. After all, Christie was a stickler for respectability, so Chaz might well be right.

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Tonedeaf - 29 Jul 2012 23:10:58 (#885 of 17115)

I laughed at the spade, because I am quite sick. Did you really bid for it, Hank?

Pics or it didn't happen.

xbod72 - 30 Jul 2012 05:38:28 (#886 of 17115)

BBC has a news story about the auction now:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-19043994

DorianJKHawkwack - 30 Jul 2012 06:15:58 (#887 of 17115)

Jimmy Savile. A very strange man.

Can't wait to see the TV bio movie.

Why is it that there are so many strange English entertainers of a certain age who either live with their mothers or have very strange relationships with their mothers?

I wonder who the next generation of them will be?

Or has the strange single man entertainer phenomenon died out along with Jimmy Savile, Frankie Howerd, Bennie Hill, Kenneth Williams and the rest?

pampas - 30 Jul 2012 06:16:45 (#888 of 17115)

<shudder>

Lot 213 is an artificial eye made into jewellery...

xbod72 - 30 Jul 2012 06:39:08 (#889 of 17115)

I guess there's strange mother things throughout society but it's mainly entertainers whose biographies get written, read and made into TV programmes.

But who else are you thinking of, Dorian?

I can only think of Kenneth Williams off the top of me head.

Towlie - 30 Jul 2012 13:21:53 (#890 of 17115)

Lot one - the Highland suit - was bought by a local man.

And I am sure Shadrack22 will look very fetching in it too.

SlasherBindman - 30 Jul 2012 19:45:07 (#891 of 17115)

Up yours, Delors!

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HerpDerp - 30 Jul 2012 20:37:24 (#901 of 17115)

The eye went for 75 quid. Fuck, if I'd known that I would have bid for it

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HerpDerp - 30 Jul 2012 20:49:21 (#906 of 17115)

and Bernie Nolan's eye

54321wibble - 30 Jul 2012 22:52:55 (#907 of 17115)

Jimmy Savile News@JimmySavileNews

Jim'll Fix It: Jimmy Savile's red magic chair just sold for £8,500 estimate was 10-15k. #jimmysavile #savileauction

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ChachaChazz - 31 Jul 2012 10:20:19 (#910 of 17115)

1. Tin of pubes (mothers').

2. Gags- for various ages.

3. The Joy of Sex- Makaton Version

ChachaChazz - 31 Jul 2012 10:21:22 (#911 of 17115)

Anyone on hols today- Jimmy Saville's swivvel eyed love chile on This Mourning.

JohnIlly - 31 Jul 2012 10:42:45 (#912 of 17115)

MrsI on seeing the swivel chair: "That'll be full of his old farts."

ChachaChazz - 31 Jul 2012 10:52:07 (#913 of 17115)

Urghhh. LOL

ChachaChazz - 31 Jul 2012 10:52:07 (#914 of 17115)

Urghhh. LOL

ChiliFiredNappyRash - 31 Jul 2012 12:33:33 (#915 of 17115)

ChachaChazz repulsed? That's got to be a first!

ChachaChazz - 31 Jul 2012 13:07:35 (#916 of 17115)

Everyone has a limit.

DorianJKHawkwack - 31 Jul 2012 15:58:21 (#917 of 17115)

I wonder if it'll ever come out about Jimmy, assuming the rumors have any substance at all.

I know I've heard it from various sources. My ex was a nurse at St. James' in Leeds and she said there was gossip about him at Leeds Infirmary.

The man was that odd you have to wonder, don't you?

I mean, you're a middle aged man, you live with your mum, you dye your hair all colours, you're a radio and TV personality who has a keen interest in children; you're someone who plainly doesn't have girlfriends, your sexuality is undefined, you don't relate to human beings in anything approaching an adult or reasonable way other than some peculiar, affected condescension, and you work part time as an unpaid porter in the local hospital.

Can you get much more weird?

Leftie - 31 Jul 2012 20:49:33 (#918 of 17115)

Well he didn't post in International.

Bellycat - 31 Jul 2012 21:05:45 (#919 of 17115)

they wouldn't let him in as he was too bonkers even for them

HerpDerp - 31 Jul 2012 21:31:24 (#920 of 17115)

Can you get much more weird?

Michael Jackson

DorianJKHawkwack - 31 Jul 2012 22:13:18 (#921 of 17115)

Michael Jackson



Apart from the obvious, I mean...

FGBFGB - 03 Aug 2012 00:14:42 (#922 of 17115)

Does Michael Jackson fiddle with himself now?

Or, indeed, Sir Jim?

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ChachaChazz - 03 Aug 2012 10:29:02 (#925 of 17115)

She's a right dead slut.

oonnell - 03 Aug 2012 13:44:59 (#926 of 17115)

The Duchess.

He's just after telling her how he'll wrap her in polythene and hang her in his wardrobe when she snuffs it.

That's a look of pure terror in her eyes.

ChachaChazz - 03 Aug 2012 19:13:59 (#927 of 17115)

Or lust.

Bellycat - 03 Aug 2012 20:36:13 (#928 of 17115)

I've just had a little sick in my mouth

DorianJKHawkwack - 04 Aug 2012 15:37:20 (#929 of 17115)

When good necrophiliacs go to heaven they are greeted by 72 dead virgins.

ChachaChazz - 04 Aug 2012 19:07:25 (#930 of 17115)

That's old news to Jimmy. Sounds like the boon of a week's volunteering in Leeds General morgue.

solomongursky - 05 Aug 2012 10:32:33 (#931 of 17115)

Documentary claims Jimmy Savile sexually abused teenage girls, including one aged 13, during the Seventies

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2183840/Documentary-claims-Jimmy-Savile-sexually-abused-teenage-girls-including-aged-13-Seventies.html#ixzz22f8yLSL1

JohnIlly - 05 Aug 2012 11:05:44 (#932 of 17115)

the film – which one programme insider said would ‘shock the nation’

I'm shocked it has taken so long to emerge. Lucky that the sale of tat has finished.

oonnell - 05 Aug 2012 14:23:13 (#933 of 17115)

I'm shocked that he tried it on with the pre-deceased.

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ChachaChazz - 05 Aug 2012 18:36:28 (#935 of 17115)

I think all young offenders and care cases should be sent for a country ride with a dangerous well known TV peed. It would solve such criminality and fecklessness in one fell swoop, and take us back to the fabled era of free for all touching that the Gove wants us to know once more.

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chardonnay - 05 Aug 2012 18:57:19 (#937 of 17115)

and Peter Sutcliffe

ChachaChazz - 05 Aug 2012 19:06:04 (#938 of 17115)

and Frank Bruno.

chardonnay - 05 Aug 2012 19:07:20 (#939 of 17115)

They have connections

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ChachaChazz - 05 Aug 2012 19:23:31 (#941 of 17115)

Is Chazza a Pedda? Missed that one. Knew about his poovery.

listens for Tom Daley Police....

xbod72 - 05 Aug 2012 19:42:00 (#942 of 17115)

"I find, yer maj, that if I promise a lass the chance to meet Sooty at the ol' Beeb Centre I have to beat 'em off with a stick, ah-uh-ah-uh-ah-uh."

"Very good, very good. Of course, I have a palace..."

JerkinMcGherkin - 08 Aug 2012 07:51:51 (#943 of 17115)

Will we be getting a documentary about Sir Cyril Smith and his amateur "medical examinations" of young boys too?

JollityFarm - 08 Aug 2012 13:43:55 (#944 of 17115)

I hope so, I find politicians even more interesting.

xbod72 - 24 Aug 2012 01:17:13 (#945 of 17115)

Ch4 as part of their Funny Fortnight just showed an episode of Gervais's short-lived chat show 'Meet Ricky Gervais'.

Savile was a guest. Ricky got him to speak about his time as a miner. JS told about it and explained he had to stop when he broke his back down t'pit.

"Since then, you've been a DJ, host of Top of the Pops, a wrestler and run 128 marathons. Don't you think you're fit to go back to work now?"

ChiliFiredNappyRash - 20 Sep 2012 14:44:07 (#946 of 17115)

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-09-20/itv-to-screen-documentary-claiming-jimmy-savile-sexually-assaulted-teenage-girls

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Leftie - 20 Sep 2012 15:53:06 (#948 of 17115)

The Mail did a big piece about that. And many people wondering why nobody mentioned it earlier if it's true.

BellaFiga - 20 Sep 2012 15:56:43 (#949 of 17115)

I think that a lot of stuff went on in the seventies and perhaps eighties (Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith?) that was highly dodgy, but only very borderline paedy. Mandy Smith looked like a woman but was 13 or 14. Some eyebrows were raised, but Wyman married her when she 18 and sort of legitimised it. I think it really fucked her up though.

There is - or was - a weird liberal seventies hangover attached to sex with youngish women, especially if they were dressing to look older.

Twiggy - back in the sixties - was in a serious relationship with her manager, ten years older, from the age of 15.

I'm not saying it was right, but these things just slipped under the radar.

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BellaFiga - 20 Sep 2012 15:58:23 (#951 of 17115)

Allegedly. I've never read anything to substantiate it.

FGBFGB - 20 Sep 2012 15:58:45 (#952 of 17115)

You're in for it now, Kerebus, attacking the Sainted Peel.

BellaFiga - 20 Sep 2012 15:59:54 (#953 of 17115)

I would imagine that quite a lot of men in the music business took advantage of their positions, one way or another.

YaketyYak - 20 Sep 2012 16:03:10 (#954 of 17115)

I've never read anything to substantiate it.

It's no secret he married a 15 year old, it's in his 'autobiography'.

mancurse - 20 Sep 2012 16:25:50 (#955 of 17115)

Anyway, aren't you all pleased that Sir Jimmy died long before the Paralympics? Otherwise he'd have been all over the telly.

BellaFiga - 20 Sep 2012 16:47:44 (#956 of 17115)

Something else I thought about while walking home...while the seventies were liberal in some ways, there was also this old-fashioned unspoken feeling of "Well if she's dressed up like that, what did she expect?". So a girl would not get a lot of sympathy if she received unwanted attention (or more) from an older man, if she had gone out - as most of us did - looking a good five years older.

I can remember getting into some very tricky situations at parties when I was 13 - fortunately the guys (who were between about 21 and 30) seemed to have a sense of honour or decency, much to my disgust at the time.

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halfnelson - 20 Sep 2012 19:53:37 (#958 of 17115)

I remember the marvellous Julie banging on about the Peel stuff in one of her columns. She had a point, but it tended to get lost in her usual "all male musicians of a certain age are misogynistic dinosaurs and Girls Aloud are the best group EVAH! in the history of recorded music" schtick.

solomongursky - 20 Sep 2012 20:11:18 (#959 of 17115)

Bill Wyman's son married Mandy Smith's mum.

solomongursky - 20 Sep 2012 20:14:06 (#960 of 17115)

Seen Sir Jimmy's tombstone?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/20/article-2206085-151C3E49000005DC-605_634x419.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/20/article-2206085-151C2C07000005DC-838_306x423.jpg

Leftie - 20 Sep 2012 20:25:19 (#961 of 17115)

Friend of Broadmoor...

SlasherBindman - 20 Sep 2012 20:26:29 (#962 of 17115)

"Chieftan" - spelling mistake.

Tut, tut.

xbod72 - 20 Sep 2012 20:29:29 (#963 of 17115)

No comment on "friend of" the "LITTLE SISTERS OF THE POOR"?

solomongursky - 20 Sep 2012 20:31:16 (#964 of 17115)

'I, Sir Jimmy Savile/ Do lie beneath this stone/ From here I view North & South Bay/ And the place that was my home/ The angle that I lie at is a 45 degree/ And that is so I always/ Have a view out to the sea,'Stop, share this view I’ve chosen/ And spend some time with me/ Look down towards the castle/ Which we can also see,'And as you leave I thank you/ That you have spent a while/ And I ask that you remember me/ And always - with a smile.'

chardonnay - 20 Sep 2012 20:34:40 (#965 of 17115)

...PS please don't believe the stuff about me being a paediofile

SlasherBindman - 20 Sep 2012 20:35:28 (#966 of 17115)

William Topaz McGonagall, there !!

JohnIlly - 20 Sep 2012 21:07:30 (#967 of 17115)

That would be expensive to remake to correct the spelling mistake. Still, it will all come out of the estate.

FGBFGB - 20 Sep 2012 22:49:51 (#968 of 17115)

I'd forgotten about this. Pleased to see a good man given his due.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Sir_Jimmy_Saville

JohnIlly - 20 Sep 2012 23:37:48 (#969 of 17115)

I see that they can't spell the name either. Just remember: it ends in "vile".

CarlosFandango - 20 Sep 2012 23:53:55 (#970 of 17115)

Marvelous little piece by Skynews there. The bit that got most of my attention is at the end:

Recommended Stories

Woman Denies Killing Man With Penis Growth Jab

Somehow evokes the perfect combination of surreal, dishonest, weird, violent and scary.

It's how I shall always remember Jim now.

andswivel - 21 Sep 2012 11:50:00 (#971 of 17115)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/John-Peel-Schoolgir-1

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/4/6163438_96599efbb
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SlasherBindman - 21 Sep 2012 13:47:34 (#972 of 17115)

Funeral Director Robert Morphet could not understand how the mistake had happened but said: "It will be put right - whatever it takes."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9557822/Sir-Jimmy-Saviles-headstone-unveiled-with-a-spelling-mistake-etched-in-granite.html

LadyDi - 21 Sep 2012 16:46:03 (#973 of 17115)

retired deputy headmaster Mr Goole



very appropriate

ChachaChazz - 22 Sep 2012 11:51:32 (#974 of 17115)

Those one eyed Mandeville and Wemlock dolls were modelled entirely on Sir Jimmy's lovewand at different states of arousal.

FGBFGB - 22 Sep 2012 15:26:49 (#975 of 17115)

MINDBLEACH!

MysteryDate - 22 Sep 2012 18:48:41 (#976 of 17115)

I will never, never be able to eradicate those images...

TheExcession - 22 Sep 2012 19:54:43 (#977 of 17115)

Or the sound of him going "UHUHUHUHUHUHUHUUUHH!" whilst he brandishes it.

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julietxx - 22 Sep 2012 20:18:13 (#979 of 17115)

I often wonder what was the pervy thinking behind those one-eyed monstrosities, and the Lisa Simpson blow job logo.

Leftie - 26 Sep 2012 13:07:46 (#980 of 17115)

There's a story in last week's Sunday Post. A woman telling them she first met Jimmy when she was 15 and how she spoke "exclusively about their touching relationship".

Without a hint of irony. She met him when he went to buy a tent for going up Ben Nevis, apparently.

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dominoboy - 26 Sep 2012 13:16:46 (#982 of 17115)

#974- DEAR GOD ALMIGHTY, THAT WAS UNCALLED FOR!

xbod72 - 26 Sep 2012 13:31:10 (#983 of 17115)

Looks like Justin Lee Collins is heir to the Savile Wrongmo title:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19730639

solomongursky - 28 Sep 2012 11:56:18 (#984 of 17115)

A string of women have given shocking accounts of how they were allegedly sexually abused by Jimmy Savile when they were young girls, it was revealed today.

The assaults occurred in public places including hospitals, schools and the BBC studios where the children’s TV presenter recorded his family shows, it is claimed.

The explosive accusations, ranging from rape to indecency, are made by up to 10 women who claim that their lives have been “destroyed and devastated” by the late DJ, knighted in 1990.

According to the allegations in a TV documentary screened next Wednesday, Savile abused girls as young as 13 at the height of his fame.

The ITV programme will feature between five and 10 women claiming he was a sexual predator who took advantage of their vulnerablility.

A source who worked with the investigation team told the Standard the show contains “shocking material that really lifts the lid on the icon” and “goes beyond anybody’s comprehension” of what Savile was capable of.

The flamboyant star, who died aged 84 last October, hosted Clunk Click, his 1970s BBC family show, and Jim’ll Fix It, which ran till the mid-Eighties. He also presented the first edition of Top of the Pops in 1964 and the last in 2006.

Some of those who contributed to the documentary are believed to be former pupils of Duncroft Approved School in Staines, Surrey, where Savile was a regular visitor.

Two claimed that he took them for drives in his car and gave them money, cigarettes, records and places in the Clunk Click studio audience in return for “sexual favours”.

In 2007 Surrey Police received a complaint from a woman who said she was indecently assaulted by Savile at Duncroft in the Seventies.

The allegation was investigated but no further action taken.

The documentary — Exposure: The Other Side Of Jimmy — took 12 months to make and the final edit was being done today.

http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/jimmy-savile-sexually-abused-us-as-girls-10-women-tell-tv-expos-8189637.html

SlasherBindman - 28 Sep 2012 13:44:51 (#985 of 17115)

Crikey

FGBFGB - 28 Sep 2012 13:47:23 (#986 of 17115)

The flamboyant star, who died aged 84 last October, hosted Clunk Click, his 1970s BBC family show

I remember his 'clunk click every trip' TV public info ads* but not a show of that name.

  • to get people to use car seatbelts

Leftie - 28 Sep 2012 13:57:53 (#987 of 17115)

"Play It Safe".

As for that programme that's coming on, it's been discussed before. ITV plugged it a while ago.

They were never brave enough to show it whilst he was here of course.

I misread this sentence as "The explosive accusations, ranging from rape to indecency, are made up by 10 women..."

halfnelson - 28 Sep 2012 13:59:20 (#988 of 17115)

Clunk Click was a show he did before Fix It. They showed a few clips of it on the tribute show last year.

Play It Safe was a horrible show. There are about 3 episodes of it on YouTube, and it's unremittingly grim and scary even 30 years later.

SlasherBindman - 28 Sep 2012 14:02:41 (#989 of 17115)

garrick92 - 01:50pm Sep 21, 2005 BST ( #47 of 52)

The really amusing thing about it is the number of pre-recorded obits for TV news that various talking heads have done over the years, referring directly to Savile's behaviour and expressing their revulsion and disbelief (over him never getting nabbed for it). I saw Auberon Waugh's a few years back and it is well worth the wait (assuming it is ever broadcast).

Leftie - 28 Sep 2012 14:15:16 (#990 of 17115)

Oh God this isn't going to end up with the discussion about Jimmy on "Have I Got News For You", which is like the Atlantis of the comedy world.

Bellycat - 28 Sep 2012 14:43:53 (#991 of 17115)

and proven to be fake

xbod72 - 28 Sep 2012 15:39:01 (#992 of 17115)

“goes beyond anybody’s comprehension” of what Savile was capable of.



Ha! Not ours!

xbod72 - 28 Sep 2012 15:40:28 (#993 of 17115)

The HIGNFY thing is a genius bit of writing. I'm surprised I haven't heard of more fake transcripts since as they must be a joy to write.

julietxx - 28 Sep 2012 22:21:18 (#994 of 17115)

There is a photo of Savile with a group of kids at a "care" home in Jersey. He absolutely denied he had been there despite the evidence. His name has been mud among poor shafted care kids for decades.

dottie30 - 28 Sep 2012 22:26:39 (#995 of 17115)

One of the homes was a secure unit.

If this is true it really is disgusting behaviour - similar to Catholic priests in Irish industrial schools. Purposefully choosing the most vulnerable troubled kids - kids who had already been labelled 'bad' and who no-one would believe.

Cavewoman - 28 Sep 2012 23:51:50 (#996 of 17115)

Hence the systematic trawling, by every police force in the country, of adult "care" survivors, following the North Wales care homes abuse scandal. But it was done pretty ham-fistedly, with police offering care survivors financial inducements for revelations of sexual abuse which, damaged as the care survivors were, led to many false allegations and ruined careers of innocent teachers and carers. A nightmare situation, impossible to resolve satisfactorily.

HerpDerp - 29 Sep 2012 00:25:50 (#997 of 17115)

I didn't know the HIGNFY thing was fake.

Disappointed.

ChachaChazz - 29 Sep 2012 01:46:14 (#998 of 17115)

At least he was straight.

Leftie - 30 Sep 2012 09:25:19 (#999 of 17115)

One of the allegations in this programme (according to the Mail) is that he had sex with a 16 year old.

And Rantzen is getting in on the story as well.

bignosebignose - 30 Sep 2012 09:26:11 (#1000 of 17115)

1000

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