http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16099015
So:
- Kiddly fiddler?
- Corpse toucher?
- Other? (please specify)
- All of the above?
Ah, a eulogy!
In many ways, he touched us all.
Speak for yourself! He never got his paws on me!
Heaven?
Well, he was a devout Catholic.
Make of that what you will.
I'm sure if he was a devout Catholic, he didn't do any of those things you suggest in the thread header.
< Whistles Nolan Sisters tune >
No Catholic would ever do such a thing.
Anyway, he will be remembered by many. Often with a shudder.
Remember him this way
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00740/S
NN2501Asutcliffe_740914a.jpg
Or touching up a 14 year old Coleen Nolan on TOTP in front of millions of viewers.
Guess it made a change from touching up corpses of 14 year olds.
I was surprised to hear this, it seemed like he was going to live forever.
Anyway, I await badtouch rumours from places on the internet other than here. Might be a couple of hours.
He was one of those people who always seemed to be the same age his entire life.
I only have a second hand experience of Sir Jimmy (thank god). My mum took my grandma to a Leeds hospital for her appointment about a cataract operation. Sir Jimmy was in the waiting room and my mum felt that he was decidedly creepy. However the old ladies there seemed to enjoy his presence and being entertained by him.
That's a bit of a rubbish story isn't it.
Oh well.
He raised around £40 million for charity over the years. Which is a lot more than I'm likely to do. About £40 million in fact...
Not that it excuses the "alleged" stuff, but still.
He was very quiet in recent years.
Phone broke?
Sim'll fix it.
I was surprised to hear this, it seemed like he was going to live forever.
The witch refused to share her blood.
I once saw him eating a fuddruckers burger with his mother
His mum.
He and the Duchess can be together again at last.
On twitter:
FilmFan1971 @hankinshaw My thoughts are with you at this difficult time.
@Hankinshaw I am going to drink until I puke
Mate, you might want to delete the RL names there.
Aah, you already did.
#26 yeah, quickly realised i'd pasted them.
Another post on Twitter:
RIP SirJim A great man with nothing but love in his body.
No organs or blood or stuff?
Now then, now then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WSsyfjytJA
This on Twitter:
Thank you for the tracksuits. An archive to be proud of.
He was devoted to his mum.
Just like the Krays.
And Mark Thatcher.
D'you remember back in the 60's when he made that record "Ahab the Arab"? That suddenly came back to me
was he really a corpse toucher?
He claimed to have been the first DJ to use twin turntables, the entire hiphop community is in his debt.
He was a staunch supporter of Margaret Thatcher and spent 11 successive New Years with the former prime minister at Chequers!
http://gu.com/p/332vt/tw
I remember Ahab the Ayrab, LadyDi. It was a very stupid song, with racial stereotyping which was offensive even in those far-off times.
Wasn't he called in to talk to Charles and Di and try and stop them from divorcing?
I'd have jumped out of the window
Wasn't he called in to talk to Charles and Di and try and stop them from divorcing?
It takes some imagination to think of SirJim as the answer to a failing marriage. Or perhaps we've misjudged him.
He fought over one hundred professional wrestling bouts losing nearly every one of them
Let it all out, LadyDi. Tell us what really went on.. ;)
He was devoted to his mum.
As a mum, I find it sad that this is so often the sign of someone odd. Somehow it shouldn't be.
What is this sinister charabanc business?
It's bit odd when you're 80 and she's dead
GPWM?
He kept all his mum's clothes in the wardrobe after she died and left her bedroom exactly as it was. That's a bit odd.
So that means <does some maths> that back in 1967, the Summer of Love and the Beatles and Top of the Pops and all, Jimmy was already 40. Phew!
Grief does strange things to people.
Wearing his mum's clothes and keeping her corpse exactly as it was would be a bit odd.
Within minutes, MINUTES of the news breaking on Sky @ 3pm there were fulsome tributes from Dave Lee Travis.
What more epitaph would you want. And Diddy David Hamilton has just been on.
Its the main damn story on there. Suppose they're trying to make up for not going big on the death of Betty Driver the other saturday.
Sky man Ashish Joshi has said, "There was really no bad stories about him At All", a universally kind and loved man, then.
Although Nick Highams on BBC in the pre-packed obit does mention that Jimell was mysterious and essentially a bit odd.
Colleen Nolan did actually appear with him when he was a guest on Loose Women a few months back. Not awkward at all.
Let's not forget internet poster TheP (RIP)'s friend who snorted a line of coke from Saville's engorged member.
Will it get menioned on Have I Got News For You?
Leeds poice were called to his flat @ midday, and have announced there were no suspicious circumstances to Jimells death.
The cops always announce this whenever a much loved Octegenarian celebrity dies
Fare thee well, Sir Jimmy.
You really wound up some people just by being you.
For that, and your charitable work
I salute you.
I bet The Guardian are relieved they closed The Talk. It'd be a nightmare having him die at the weekend with no moderators.
Dead person ≠ lawsuit shirley.
Colleen Nolan did actually appear with him when he was a guest on Loose Women a few months back. Not awkward at all.
she probably figured that she's safe now she's no longer 14
Heh!
I bet these two had loads to talk about:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/gallery/2011/oct/29/j
immy-savile-life-in-pictures?picture=381150919
telling juxtaposition here:
http://youtu.be/jAedzGq8ou4?t=2m26s
He was a Mensa member and had an IQ of 149.
That's higher than Shakira!
Garrick
What about that video in which Auberon Waugh denounces Sir Jimmy? (Or am I misremembering)
I don't see why he can't still use it.
I wonder if someone will go as gadaffi with a stick up the jacksy?
Something very wrong with Jimmy Savile.
My ex was a nurse at Leeds General, and lived in Roundhay not far from him. She said the rumours about him and cadavers were rife, and nobody trusted him. He worked as a porter (voluntary) but he gave everyone the creeps.
I spent one boring day on a train with him up to Glasgow and back filming a BR ad back in the 80s. He was someone who couldn't hold a conversation at all. All he did was talk: either about himself, or make some naff joke. What a tedious, tedious old twat he was.
Narcissist, too close to his mother, worked around dead bodies and children, never married (or had a lover), kept a shrine to his mother (had all her clothes dry cleaned once a year for Chrissakes!)...AND a disc jockey.
One of the weirdest fuckers ever to make it onto the telly.
Everyone has a sexual outlet. I dread to think what his must have been.
Looking forward to the TV film of his life. My bet is it'll outshine Kenneth Williams and Frankie Howard as all the dirt comes out at last...
He claimed to have invented the disco.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15507863
ITV news described him as a loner, says it all.
ITV news described him as a loner
That's nearly as bad as the neighbours saying "He kept himself to himself".
Why is it so many male celebrities (esp lonely, fucked up ones) have such strange relationships with their mothers?
Has there ever been a good media week for loners?
I wonder whether, given Sir Jim's sterling work at St James's in Leeds, someone will sing St James Infirmary Blues at his funeral:
I went down to St. James Infirmary,
Saw my baby there,
Stretched out on a long white table,
So cold, so sweet, so fair.
Radio presenter Paul Burnett told Sky News...
'He did a lot of work as a porter in the hospital that he collected money for. He would go there at night and work as a porter and I think he loved the people that he worked with
Physically
heh.
Oh dear. Didn't he do a lot at Stoke Mandeville too?
I'm conjuring up some awful thoughts here
He went to Stoke Mandeville after being asked to leave the Leeds hospitals. Where, apparently, they kept a VERY close eye on him.
When my son was in Leeds General we spent a lot of time there with him, and one of the nurses on his ward told us a few tales about wonderful man-of-the-people Jimmy Savile.
http://twitpic.com/77lw5x
Apparently Savile had an injunction preventing this picture apparently of him with children at a Jersey care home being published.
All this innuendo is shocking. Doesn't anyone have any reliable links to show he really bummed corpses, or something?
'A' Jersey care home, or 'the' Jersey care home?
That I don't know (but my first thought was the Jersey care home)
There surely can't be that many care homes on Jersey
A quick google reveals:
"I once interviewed Larry Grayson for a local radiostation. After the interview, Larry says to me 'Doyou know the truth about XXXXXX XXXXXX? All that workhe does at the hospitals - well it's all a front.The real reason he's happy to help the hospitalporters is because he likes to fuck the dead.'
"At which point Larry Grayson does an impersonationof XXXXXX fucking a dead body, while repeatingthe words 'fucks the dead, fucks the dead'
"Larry then sits down leans over to me and says 'hewon't be able to fucking fix that if it ever gets out!'"
Bronski Beat and The Communards won't be the same without him.
I think we can all now fill in the Xs without fear of libel.
Is it possible to fuck someone who's dead? I would have thought rigor mortis would be a bit of barrier
Vendor - possibly the care home
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t507589/
Not clicking on a fascist link, I'm afraid.
Sorry - hadn't looked where the link went
Try this
http://www.thelawyer.com/jimmy-savile-turns-to-fox-hayes-for-action-against-the-sun/131780.article
Leeds-based firm Fox Hayes has commenced legal action against The Sun newspaper on behalf of TV personality Jimmy Savile.
Savile, the star of children’s television favourite Jim’ll Fix It, decided to start proceedings against the Rupert Murdoch paper after a series of articles linked the former Radio One DJ with Jersey children’s home Haut de la Garenne.
The police are currently investigating the care home after human remains were found at the residence where children were allegedly tortured and sexually abused.
I'd be more willing to believe it was true if they called Wilfred Bramble by his real name, Wilfred Bramwell (I think but it's def not Bramble). As he was arrested for importuning (lovely word) in gents toilets, it seems likely he prefers men to little boys
didn't realise it was fascist until I read it
But didn't it turn out that the "human remains" didn't actually exist? I was listening to something about this on Radio 4. The whole thing was either made up or a big cover up
I'd only heard of him vaguely and I can't find much on the net about these rumours at all. But here is an interview with him, in which he denies all biblical knowledge of corpses and kids.
http://www.independent.ie/unsorted/features/kids-cant-be-kidded-they-smell-the-truth-511693.html
He claimed to have invented the disco.
In the 40s and 50s, the musicians union was very sniffy about people playing records in public without hiring musicians, Jimmy Saville solved the problem by hiring bands and not bothering to let them play.
And he was the first 'dance hall' DJ to use two decks so he could segue records smoothly. But he fucked corpses, so it's a bit 'good news / bad news' really.
Macman told me the sad news with the words: "Guess who's found himself face down on the slab tonight?"
I went to see Jim'll Fix It being recorded on a school trip when I was about 14.
Is there a doctor on the forum? Back to my question:
Is it possible to fuck a dead person?
In the You will Die thread, yumyum says that dead people groan etc and expel a lot of body fluid. Then I think rigor mortis sets in PDQ
Rigor mortis peaks a few hours after death and then gradually wears off over about 2 days.
Odd things can happen soon after death as motor nerves spontaneously fire. Sitting bolt upright in bed is not uncommon, and plenty of noises.
Rigor wears off again though, you can't keep a stiffie forever.
so to speak
From notoriously reliable Wikipedia; Rigor mortis (Latin meaning "stiffness of death") is one of the recognizable signs of death that is caused by a chemical change in the muscles after death, causing the limbs of the corpse to become stiff and difficult to move or manipulate. In humans it commences after about 3 hours, reaches maximum stiffness after 12 hours, and gradually dissipates until approximately 72 hours (3 days) after death.
(my bold)
so, pot of lube and you're in.
Of course it's possible to fuck a dead person. Dead people sigh rather than groan, in my experience, but that's a perfectly valid response when your corpse is being fucked by a creepy old man.
erm, apparently.
< rattles jewellery >
I didn't realise rigor mortis wore off. Heck!But doesn't decompostion start pretty quickly?
Not in a mortuary setting, I wouldn't imagine. But keeping bodies in cold storage will obviously slow the rate at which rigor wears off.
I'm thinking about this too much, aren't I?
Apparently he sat with his mother's corpse for several days after she died. I have really bad thoughts going through my head now. Thanks threadsters!
It's a service we provide, Wibbs.
He insists it was because the ground was too frozen immediately after her death to dig a grave.
I'm not going to comment, I know nothing about these things.
Sexy?
And he was the first 'dance hall' DJ to use two decks so he could segue records smoothly
and many rappers have copied his garish tracksuit and 'bling' jewelry image, he virtually invented hip hop
- liven things up
+ be the last straw for many posters
Going back, it's not about libel. I do know the law. It's just if it involves other people - which it could well end up doing - the paper would have had their work cut out.
I'm tempted to have another Mail invasion to see what they do.
GU Rock Lives
Opaz – 01:55pm Jun 12, 2001 BST ( #16 of 17)
It’s last at night in a fashionable area of downtown (sorry, Spon) Leeds, well-dressed people out on the town scurrying about on their way to expensive French restaurants. A slender leg is emerging from the open door of a black cab, we realise that the leg belongs to Poobie, whose face we can just make out in the gloom of the cab’s interior. She is wearing a long luxurious fur coat and a diamond necklace and is holding a cigarette in a holder in one hand. There’s a man in the back of the cab whose face is entirely in shadow, although tendrils of long white hair are just visible, as is his arm stretched over the back of the seat, holding a large cigar. We realise it is Jimmy Savile. Across the street, Shadrack lurks in a shadowy doorway, looking as if he might have been sleeping rough the last few nights, his dark suit rumpled and stained, a bottle of beer in his hand. The driver of the cab appears to be Boog, wearing a sinister smile.
From comments on the DM:
About 6 years ago, my wife and I were having a weekend away in Scarborough.... bumped into Sir Jimmy in an Italian Restaurant on the seafront.......he joined us for dinner (we picked up the bill!!) He told us stories of his life which will probably have never been mentioned or published....... greatly memorable experience..... hugely eccentric and direct..... a truly wonderful character in every way. Very sad to hear of his passing today. RIP Sir Jimmy. God Bless.
I'm guessing charities will benefit a lot from his will
From comments on the DM
I think Abdullah Ibrahim Mohammed al Saleemi Bisha Mohammad's warm tribute said it for all of us:
Nice to see ya to see ya!!!
Not the first time today that Sir Jim'll has been confused with Brucie.
Tight old bastard, what a rotten trick to play. He was loaded.
Yep. I thought so too.
Only slightly? I've just ruined my keyboard.
I just watched BBC News at 10 and "a fan" placed some flowers outside his house.Just the one fan (middle aged woman)
I saw that too, noticed they said he was one of Britain's "well known celebrities" as opposed to "much loved" which is how they refer to Brucie.
They may have said entertainers
He will haunt the dreams of children forever.
In what way was Savile entertaining?
The same way a particularly nasty horror film is.
About 99.8% of children worldwide would draw a picture of Jimmy Saville if asked to draw a picture of "the nasty man".
I bet it wasn't just the combination of roller-coaster motion and sticky fairground fare that was discomfiting those Boy Scouts.
I wrote in to Jim'll Fix It when I was a girl, asking to ride showjumper Eddie Macken's horse Boomerang, or possibly Pele, anyway whichever one it was who kept winning everything at the time. I wanted of course to make him (Eddie, not Jimmy) fall in love with me and make me his wife. My only other hope of being Mrs Macken was to become a successful showjumper myself.
I didn't get on Jim'll Fix It and I didn't get to marry Eddie Macken.
#149 - I know the feeling mancurse. (it was Boomerang).
Did you love Eddie too, Anti? I learned much later that he was a right one for shagging around - we probably could have had him, you know.
I grew up in Aylesbury too, and my mum was an occupational therapist at Stoke Mandeville. She met JS on many occasions, and said he was a very difficult person to talk to, but the children really loved him. He just didn't seem able to relate to adults, well, live ones anyway.
No mention of necrophilia, but then MaA is someone who doesn't believe in blow jobs either.
Anti, he sounds like Micheal Jackson, not being able ie living in a child's world
I dont' like Brucie either
MaA is someone who doesn't believe in blow jobs either.
That raises just too many questions.
A friend of mine worked at Stoke Mandeville for a while. She says Savile had a room there, for which he paid no rent, and he worked as a volunteer porter.
When I used to go over to Norn during the school hols to stay with my peasant cousins I frequently lied to them in an attempt to come across like some supercool cat telling them I had been on Jim'll Fix It. My tales spanned the full romantic gamut of going on a rollercoaster and eating shit loads of ice cream sundaes (i.e. lots of exotica unheard of and unseen in Norn) and meeting John Conteh and Norris McWhirter et al. I even fashioned a Jim'll medal out of a bar of Shield soap, tinfoil and some ribbons using a pen knife and flashed it out of a bathroom window to the congregation of gullible ginger cuz-tards below who all worshipped me as "oldest cousin".
In reality I was far far too working class and savvy around paedos to ever get near Jimmy Saville's rape chair.
HIGNFY got quite interesting. I wonder whether this will ever feature on an outtakes show: http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/rogerb/jokes/HIGNFY.
txt
Meeting Norris McWhirter was like touching the spear of destiny when you were 8.
Has someone hacked The Sun again or are they just making things up as usual?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/38
45491/TVs-Sir-Jimmy-Savile-is-fixed-in-hospital.html
TELLY legend Sir Jimmy Savile was last night in hospital recovering from a bout of pneumonia.
The 84-year-old former Jim'll Fix It star and Top Of The Pops presenter was taken to Leeds General Infirmary, where he has often done voluntary work
Ah. Google said it was updated 2 hours ago and the date shown at the top is Sat, 29 Oct 2011.
Gosh. On the BBC website, nearly 50% of the comments posted have been deleted by the mods for one reason or another.
garrick - OK, watched the link. What are you saying?
The ringed fingers in the bath splishing splashing. Eeeek!
He was hot wired into hell.
The young Jimmy Saville looks quite normal. Clearly either gay or a dabbler, but I certainly wouldn't have him down as a corpse-fucker with his own room in a hospital.
This thread is disturbing. I used to think it was all just, rather dark, GU japery. Now I don't know what to think. Could charity man Sir Jimmy really fuck corpses? I mean, who fucks corpses? That's just fucked up. Is it a Satanic ritual thing? Does he love Satan too?
Only the internets knows for sure.
Seriously weird. My comment on garrick's link now predates his posting of the link. Go figure.
Sir James on his mother from the Guardian Obit:
"When she died she was all mine. She looked marvellous. She belonged to me. It's wonderful, is death."
Shudder
my girlfriend's story; when she was a glasgow busdriver in the 80's, she met jimmy saville. he took her hand and she thought he was going to kiss it, but he licked it! she mentions his rings, too
Great Sun comments...
aufdeutsch
Why hasn't he ever married and had kids?...its not normal is it?
Maybe because he looked after his mother "The Duchess" There isn't a law (unless Labour Slipped it in somewhere) that says everyone should get married and have children
Jim'll Fuck it?
To give him credit, no one can say he was one of those who took advantage of his celebrity status by shagging everything that moves.
References to "Savile" and "necrophilia" on places like David Icke and other nutters. Maybe it's not true at all...
Fucking wow. To CQ with that one, I reckon!
Why thank you
According to a few swivvel eyed webmongs Sir Jim seems to have some unsavoury links to everyone's favourite black Tory Derek Laud.
Have any of the Sunday papers printed any sordid details of his alleged etc?
Give them a week to get a decent feature together...
Maybe an opinion piece by Louis Theroux on the bits they couldn't use from filming the documentary...
God I wished I'd never started looking into Saville's touching. All manner of mouth breathing websites written by ex care leavers in blue comic sans are now begging to be read and Hollyoaks is on.
HIGNFY script largely fake according to this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2000/jul/21/i
nternetnews.theguardian
An ex girlfriend of mine met him on a school trip when she was about 14, although none got the Coleen Nolan treatment she said the considered opinion of her classmates was that he was a right old pervert.
No one died.
Whatever you think of anyone, this is the most strange comment I've ever read.
"Why hasn't he ever married and had kids?...its not normal is it?"
Shall we do a quick poll straw and see how many people we know who aren't married and/or don't have children? Is it really that freaky?!
And it's it's you twat.
All this bad stuff about Jimmy Savile is unsubstantiated internet gossip. Amazing how some people love indulging in it.
to be played at his funeral? I don't think so ...
http://youtu.be/NBJgY4u9EtE?t=1m9s
because Savile was such a creepy nonce
Did you read that somewhere? The internet, perhaps?
All this bad stuff about Jimmy Savile is unsubstantiated internet gossip
The gossip predates the internet.
It doesn't mean it's true though, does it? He did appear to be a bit odd, but being a bit odd doesn't automatically make him a toucher, just as keeping yourself to yourself and being a bit of a loner doesn't automatically make one a serial killer, although obviously, it helps.
Keeping a dead mum in the living room? I wouldn't have fancied showering in his motel.
Mother's not herself today...
I just had a look at the Icke forum and by page 9 it's fully established that he was a murdering paedo nonce with senior connections to the CIA, FBI, Mossad, The Knights Templar, The Illuminati (natch) and virtually ran the BBC. He got away with his crimes against children, nurses, animals and fashion because HE WAS JUST TOO POWERFUL!!
The stuff about not being able to bury his mother because the ground was frozen doesn't ring true.
That might happen in Siberia where the ground freezes deep down but I don't think that cemeteries in the UK rely on a bloke with a shovel to dig graves.
To give him credit, no one can say he was one of those who took advantage of his celebrity status by shagging everything that moves
Pure fucking gold - bravo! Bravo!
He was made a Papal Knight, mind.
Oh God, Play It Safe. That scared me WAY more than Government safety films or Dr Who.
It was all reconstructions of terrfying accidents possible from everyday objects.
The woman whose toddler drowned in the bath while she answered the phone or those kids scalded for life within seconds.
---The uncle of a workmate ended up in stoke Mandeville after colapsing at home. He was unconscious for several weeks, and when he finally came round, was amazed to see Sir Jimmell in the canteen. "Now then Now Then Owsabout" routine ensues. Ailing uncle thinks this is hilarious and a real tonic.
The next day Jimell is also in the canteen and does the same thing again like clockwork.
And again.
And again.
Every day he was in hospital, for about 2 months.
Every day he was in hospital, for about 2 months.
Or perhaps, just perhaps, he was very socially awkward and all the charity and fundraising stuff filled a gap for someone unable to relate to people on any level other than "Now then, goodness gracious, it was Showaddywaddy".
This from the Daily Mail,(just for the record, and JohnIlly)
"Grieving families are being forced to wait more than a month to bury their dead as Britain struggles to cope with the worst winter in 13 years.
Undertakers say the number of unburied bodies has risen sharply since the start of the cold snap - and is expected to grow.
The sub-zero conditions and snowstorms have triggered a surge in deaths and left the ground too frozen to dig up across much of the UK.Digging in: A woman near Aviemore where temperatures fell to -18c
Digging in: A woman near Aviemore where temperatures fell to -18c
Despite the growing crisis, local councils are refusing to clear the backlog of bodies by opening up cemeteries on Saturdays and Sundays. Most still allow weekend burials only for Muslims and orthodox Jews.
According to the latest official figures, funeral directors and registrars are struggling to cope with the bodies of more than 54,113 who have died so far this year.
The figure is almost 6,000 higher than in previous years, with thousands of deaths still to be registered for January and the first week of February.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1140322/Deadly-cold-snap-led-months-delay-funerals.html
Yeah but she died in August
Okay I made that up
I met the lovely Piscineaste yesterday and when the news came through we instantly fretted about what was to become of someone grieving in pain for this man..
Our cherished Hankinshaw now has lost an output for his venom. We agreed that Eamonn Holmes needs to watch out now.
What was winter 1973 like? Was it particularly cold?
(I spent 73 split between cot and pram, so I wouldn't know!)
Those twitter tributes in full:
@Lord_Sugar Lord Sugar Sad news on the death of Jimmy Savile very funny man and did loads of work for charity RIP
@Herring1967 Richard Herring Oh Jimmy Savile has died. I am torn between feeling sad and wanting to make a very inappropriate joke. I will be sad for now
@serafinowicz Peter Serafinowicz RIP Jimmy Savile. May your fat spirit live on as Boris Johnson.
@Schofe Phillip Schofield Deeply saddened by the death of Sir Jimmy Savile. He was so generous with his time and advice to me when I was starting out. So long Jim :(20 hours ago
and a tribute from Louis Theroux
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/10/30/jimmy-savile-dead-louis-theroux-pays-tribute-to-one-off-mate-115875-23526241/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=tw
itter&utm_campaign=DTN+UK:
I don't know if this internet tittle-tattle is correct. He was certainly an odd character. But great things come from oddness.
RIP Sir Jimmy. The dancers from planet Earth appreciate your brilliant idea of using two record decks.
Here's a pic to remember him by:
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/oct2011/6/3/imag
e-26-for-jimmy-savile-life-in-pictures-gallery-483563539.jpg
From the Graun's interview in April 2011
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,178381,0
0.html
Savile rises from the bed to tell an anecdote from his book-reviewing days. "After a couple of weeks I said, 'I want to expose a book. It's for children and it's dreadful; there's this girl who's well underage and she takes up with a geezer who's yonks old and eventually they schlep off together.' "
What's the book?
"Wait a minute because you're the audience now," Savile chides. "Now bear in mind this was live TV, and I'm saying, personally, I don't think it's a good thing because I don't think an underage girl should be exhorted by her parents to strike up a relationship with a guy five, six, seven times older than she is. And the book - Peter Pan! I got the sack for that." He loves the story, laughs himself silly and hops back on to bed.
using two record decks
Also, he was doing bling before most of the gangsta-rappers were born. The Daddy of Bad Taste, in a kind of Liberace way.
and wearing garish tracksuits, he invented hip hop
Pity he didn't invent the drive-by shooting while he was at it.
#213 - it's a clean pic - he's endorsing 2 soap powders!
He was made a Papal Knight, mind.
and a Knight of Malta
@ChrisJefferiesCanyngRoad He taught me all he new about perfecting the platinum bob and dealing with media intrusion.
@ChrisJefferiesCanyngRoad He taught me all he new about perfecting the platinum bob and dealing with media intrusion.
ChachaChazz so funny!
More from that Graun interview:
"I once said to a girl, 'I'm older than your grandfather.' And she says, 'Well I love him as well.' I say, 'Good-oh, but I'm still too old for you', and she says, 'No, you're not because you're ageless, you're you.' Now that didn't come from me, it comes from someone else. So when people say to me, 'Don't you think you're too old to do this?', I say I'm doing what I'm doing cos I'm having a good time and why don't you piss off to leave me to do it."
omigod, there's more:
The creepiest moment in the documentary occurs late at night when he thinks the camera is off, and he talks about the dancehall days. "I wouldn't stand for any nonsense whatsoever. Ever, ever. I never threw anybody out. Tied them up and put them down in the bloody boiler house until I was ready for them. Two o'clock in the fucking morning... We'd tie em up and then we'd come back and I was the judge, jury and executioner. If a copper came and said 'You were a bit heavy with those two guys', I'd say 'Your daughter comes in here, she's 16, she's not supposed to come into town. Presumably you'd like me to look after her. If you don't want me to look after her, tell me and I'll let them dirty slags do what they want to her.' "
#225
An early example of 'zero tolerance'.
From his Telegraph obit:
This led to Savile’s becoming a Mecca dance-hall manager, and by the late 1950s he was responsible for the entertainment at 45 Mecca ballrooms across the country. At that time, Musicians’ Union regulations stipulated that entertainment in dance-halls should be provided by live bands, with records played only in the interval between performances. Realising that the records were invariably more popular than the band, Savile would circumvent the rules by paying the musicians not to perform. His policy of what he described as “zero tolerance” towards drunks and troublemakers revealed him in a somewhat less benevolent light. In later years, he admitted that they would be taken to the boiler-room, tied up and left for a few hours to reflect on their misdemeanours.
and it closes with:
"....a man who regarded it as his duty to brighten everybody’s day, collaring passers-by to whom he was at best a distant memory and regaling them with his jokes and catchphrases, making a beeline for anybody in a wheelchair.
A man who divided opinion without ever appearing to care much what anyone thought of him, he was simply an odd chap. "
Not being able to stop is quite a serious problem if you're in a wheelchair.
How come it never kicked off, at the time, when he groped 14 year old Coleen Nolan on TotP?
You'd think their Dad would have wrung Savile's scrawny neck for that. But perhaps he was too guilt-ridden/compromised by sexually abusing his eldest daughter, Anne, to notice.
http://tinyurl.com/mzvxb8
He got to meet Brian Jones and Julie Driscoll. Wish I had.
Has there been any solid evidence of Savile being anything other than an oddball? Or were any public accusations made while he was alive (as was the case with Cyril Smith)? I ask because "he's a bit odd - must be a nonce" has been the cause of one or two miscarriages of justice in living memory.
Well he's dead now and we can say waht we want about the corpse buggering nonce.
#238 - Well he was presenting a children's TV programme.
I think there's a lot of bitterness from those who didn't get replies to their letters to Jim'll Fix It
garrick92 - 01:50pm Sep 21, 2005 BST ( #47 of 52)
The really amusing thing about it is the number of pre-recorded obits for TV news that various talking heads have done over the years, referring directly to Savile's behaviour and expressing their revulsion and disbelief (over him never getting nabbed for it). I saw Auberon Waugh's a few years back and it is well worth the wait (assuming it is ever broadcast).
Right. When are these going to surface?
I think there's a lot of bitterness from those who didn't get replies to their letters to Jim'll Fix It
Auberon Waugh?
This thread is disgusting and ridiculous. Either substantiate your absurd claims or be quiet and respect the dead. You are making yourselves look ignorant and childish.
Savile did more for charity than nearly anyone else in the country and did more good for this country than the people who smear his name would even conceive of. You are small, mean and insignificant. He was a magnificently generous English eccentric. Respect due.
Are you the Max Gogarty from 'Dad'll Fix It'?
Savile did more for charity
It never seems quite the same when people turn it into a circus and make as much public fuss as possible. There is no law of nature which makes it impossible for someone who puts in work for a charity to still be a wrong 'un.
I am reminded of an episode from The Sopranos where Paulie ensures he donates plenty of money to the church to reduce his time in purgatory for all the murders he has committed. With discounts he reckons 600 years before he gets to heaven. "I could do that standing on my head."
'It never seems quite the same when people turn it into a circus and make as much public fuss as possible.'
who gives a fucking shit as long as the vulnerable are being helped
who gives a fucking shit as long as the vulnerable are being helped
Saville might have achieved more pressurising Government into improving services rather than becoming a professional fundraiser.
"Helped"
who gives a fucking shit as long as the vulnerable are being helped
I do. I fucking hate 'charity'.
- It absolves the state from meeting its responbilities to the vulnerable.
- The poor contribute disproportionately.
- Decisions on who and how to help are made through a vile combination of marketing and OPR and donor preference. So, cash is not allocated according to need but according to fashion and promotion.
- There is insufficient scrutiny of charities compare to statutory agencies.
- Charity itself is a dodgy term - viz the fucking private schools.
Mindless support of 'charity' is pathetic. It's even worse when it is used to excuse or compensate for dodgy behaviour.
Hear, hear! I do support various charities, as it's the only system we've currently got, but I totally support the points above.
Hmmmm....think you are a little off the mark with some of that Col.
It's perfectly possible to support a high level of state provision of essential services while still wanting to make additional contributions to causes about which one has a strong personal link, particularly if that is going to longer term research which may be difficult to justify on a strict cost-benefit basis. Cancer research, for instance.
And because I am in full-on frothing mode. here's two numbers that make me mad:
Children In Need 201 broadcast fund raising total: £18 million.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_Need
In 2011-12 ... Councils are set to cut about £337m of children’s social care services through gross budget reductions of 5 per cent.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b43fe1b2-5e32-11e0-b1d8-00144feab49a.html
A telethon will make people feel better. Actually, political lobbying would achieve a great deal more.
Charity is fine in principle. But.
Blank - yes, charity can be fine. (I won't debase the discussion by itemising the specific charities I support and the personal reasons why.)
But the kind of charity-fundraising you describe is a small part of the 'charity' narrative.
Papal Knight Sir Jimmy Savile entertains the nation for decades, is a style pioneer and man ahead of his time, invents the discotheque, lives frugally in the Leeds suburbs, donates 90% of his income to worth causes, works as a hospital porter and selflessly helps the needy. Yet he is pilloried by internet self-soilers and pedlars of mistruths. What a travesty of natural justice.
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
Col2001:
You missed out giving madcap funsters the opportunity to be wacky in the workplace. Bastards.
#253 This.
wacky in the workplace.
Wacky? Yes.
And of course, the trusty old Pay for My Holiday routine:
Hi - I hear you like hillwalking. I'm doing the 3 Peaks Challenge soon, ruining the whole thing for people like you and royally pissing off people around Scafell. I'm really looking forward to it! Can you lend me some of your kit? And will you sponsor me? It's for chariiiiiddddddeeeeeeeee...
I have never understood the logic of sponsored walks.
"Will you give some money to charity?"
"No."
"Will you give some money to charity if a legless ex-serviceman walks to the North Pole?"
"Certainly. Help yourself to my wallet,"
I do. I fucking hate 'charity'.
pathetic
•It absolves the state from meeting its responsibilities to the vulnerable.
No it doesn't. The state should help the vulnerable. why blame charities and people if they also want to help. why should I not donate to the red cross or MSF if they are helping flood victims? why should people die just because you hate the word charity?
•The poor contribute disproportionately.
do you have any evidence?
•Decisions on who and how to help are made through a vile combination of marketing and OPR and donor preference. So, cash is not allocated according to need but according to fashion and promotion.
please explain. can you appy, this to cancer research, MSF, red cross, plus children's charities?
•There is insufficient scrutiny of charities compare to statutory agencies.
maybe, but why attack charities in general and attack good people who want to help others? Is this a reason to let flood victimes die?
•Charity itself is a dodgy term - viz the fucking private schools.
maybe. however you give yourself away here as a heavily chipped person. you don't like private schools so you lump all charities together and say they are evil. do you really not see all the NET overall good that charities do? do you think most people are so stupid that they cannot recognize that contributing to charities helps people out in general?
Mindless support of 'charity' is pathetic. It's even worse when it is used to excuse or compensate for dodgy behaviour.
'But the kind of charity-fundraising you describe is a small part of the 'charity' narrative.'
Well it is the part of the 'narrative' that is relevant to an appraisal of Jimmy Savile, as he was (amongst other things) a major fundraiser for Cancer Research UK.
•It absolves the state from meeting its responsibilities to the vulnerable.
Its the publicity which distracts from the damage government is doing behind the scenes, charity in private (where genuine obviously, not Atlantic Bridge type crookedness) is a useful contribution.
No it doesn't. The state should help the vulnerable. why blame charities and people if they also want to help. why should I not donate to the red cross or MSF if they are helping flood victims? why should people die just because you hate the word charity?
Moral blackmail of the most naive kind.
please explain. can you appy, this to cancer research, MSF, red cross, plus children's charities?
It's perfectly clear. You may have missed the thirty-year-old cultural meme about the relative cuddliness of different good causes.
do you think most people are so stupid that they cannot recognize that contributing to charities helps people out in general?
'People' are indeed too stupid to see that charity is too often cover for state and society not doing what it can and should do.
You need to do a lot more thinking about politics and society before you get involved in a debate like this.
Its a fair point.
Enduring some godawful children in need telethon and chucking £24 million in the pot achieves little if we then elect a government which cuts £ 240 million from the budget allocated to those children.
Anyway, doubt if anything new will come out of this little excursion.
As you were.
Speculating on Jimmy Savile's curious life, I believe?
This was a disgraceful, puerile, childish and innuendo-laden thread. And that was how it should be.
We don't want it sullied by UK News type wibbling thanks.
All the allegations seem to be along the lines of "I heard off someone....."
Having firmly believed he was a wrong'un for years, I'm now leaning towards him just being odd.
Albeit very, very odd.
I am slightly disappointed.
Val McDermid wrote a book about a celebrity who helped out in a hospital, was chummy with all the porters, and used his freedom in the hospital to dispose of the bodies of his young victims in the furnace.
I'm saying nothing.
Sir Jimmy had long hair before the likes of Morbid Angel and Carcass. So, he basically inspired death metal. If you think about it.
#275
If true it will surely appear in the tabloids within the week. A pint for Mr Garrick if any of this turns out to be true.
Sir Nowthennowthen didn't invent disco shocker:
http://www.scaruffi.com/history/cpt12.html
"When the occupying German troops shut down Paris' dance halls (which were guilty of promoting Jewish and Black music), private clubs began playing dance records for their customers. "La Discotheque" opened in 1941 to play the jazz music that was banned in dance halls: since it could not hire jazz musicians, it was only playing records."
So, he basically inspired death metal.
by dying?
Three Peaks? Skydiving? Pfft. We've had people coming round to our desks begging money to do the Inca Trail.
Sir Nowthennowthen didn't invent disco shocker:
but did the French Resistance have twin turntables and a microphone?
You need to do a lot more thinking about politics and society before you get involved in a debate like this.
I don't think you have thought through your rant at all. Are you saying that because you have a chip on your shoulder about private schools that all charities are bad and do not help good causes?
Having firmly believed he was a wrong'un for years, I'm now leaning towards him just being odd.
Same here.
The allegations, rather than being based on actual facts or events, seem to be extrapolations based on some of his more creepy mannerisms and comments.
He was certainly odd, but i do wonder if he suffered from something akin to aspergers that made social interaction difficult for him. Hence the completely over the top persona, all the 'now then now then, how's about that then?' affectation covers up the fact that he has no social skills and can't judge how to interact with people. Perhaps some of the off colour comments and odd behaviour are down to him trying to be funny and eccentric but not being able to perceive what is acceptable and what isn't?
Obviously just ill-informed idle speculation on my part, but that's what the internet's for, after all.
but did the French Resistance have twin turntables and a microphone?
Mere detail.
I don't think you have thought through your rant at all. Are you saying that because you have a chip on your shoulder about private schools that all charities are bad and do not help good causes?
KER- ZINGGGGG!
It hardly takes a genius to come up with the idea of playing records in a dance hall. The reason that people didn't do it for so long was that the musicians union was so powerful.
Not sure about your angle, Basil. Lots of people cope with Asbergers in their own way without brokering a meeting between Frank Bruno and the Yorkshire Ripper.
Momentary return to dullness - sorry. As just one example, before the Welfare State, healthcare for the poor was dependent on patronage by the rich. The NHS has made a good job of providing healthcare for all, as a state responsibility. I should perhaps modify my endorsement of col's post by saying that the state should provide core services for those who need them, but there'll always be scope for charity as well.
As you were - back to scurrilousness, please.
This is true betty, perhaps it's being unfair to aspergers sufferers.
What i mean is, was it that he had some sort in built problem with social interaction, which accounts for his completely over the top mannerisms and persona? surely the 'now then now then' stuff was an affectation he adopted for some reason? Perhaps he was just painfully shy?
whatever, the speculation about him seems to be based, rather than on actual evidence, on people saying 'look at this inappropriate comment he made, he must be a corpse fucker'. Well, maybe he is, but then again maybe he just said inappropriate things because he lacked the necessary social skills to judge the nuances of what is acceptable and what isn't.
That's just ill-informed idle speculation on my part, but then again it's not different than saying 'he was a bit odd, he must be a nonce.'
They said the same about Chris Jefferies, of course, his main crime being to enthuse about Christina Rossetti.
"No smoke without fire" is the perennial cry that goes up from the credulous whenever someone's let out of prison after being wrongfully convicted (or wrongfully arrested, as in Colin Stagg).
No, Synth, I've never said anything of the kind, but plenty of newspapers and commentators did, or rather, hinted at it, which is why Jefferies is now, or soon will be, minted as a result of libel actions.
Chris Jefferies does have Jimmy Savile hair, though.
Aye, not enough nonce jotting.
I thought it was cadaver cuddling that was the suggestion.
When I first heard that the Sir Jim'll had become a corpse, my first thought was that he could go and fuck himself.
He almost died from pneumonia when just five months old but miraculously recovered after his mother, whom he always referred to as the redoubtable "Duchess", went out to the local church to pray to a deceased Scottish nun.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/29/jimmy-savile-obituary?newsfeed=true
pray to a deceased Scottish nun.
Praying to a live one would be a massive heresy.
Has anyone actually checked whether she is a genuine Duchess or not?
RE: The Duchess. Did he keep her in the house right after she died before handing her over when he saw fit, or in a coffin post-embalming as is the custom is some places?
It's really none of my business, but y'know.
Let's face it, he was a good man. A little odd but a good man.
My main objection to him was that he regularly ruined TOTP and "Jim'll Fix It" was shit - fully of drippy BBC friendly kids who needed a slap rather than have their pathetic dreams fulfilled. The only one I was remotely jealous of was a kid who got to be Adam and the Ants' third drummer.
At the hospital Christmas party, Jim'll really enjoyed the buffet. I hear he could often be found sampling a selection of cold meats at the NHS's expense.
The trouble with rumours on the internet is that there's so much utter crap typed up by losers that one really needs to be non-committal in either direction until there is proof positive. Of course, plenty of people don't really care whether it's true or not, they just enjoy the sick jokes.
they just enjoy the sick jokes
Yep. We've had some crackers.
My main objection to him was that he regularly ruined TOTP and "Jim'll Fix It" was shit
He was completely shit and like DLT he gave the impression of having absolutely no interest in music. And Jim'll Fix It belongs in the same cess pool of Saturday Night light entertainment hell occupied by Billy Cotton, Val Doonican, The Black & White Minstrels and Rolf On Saturday OK!
Sure he did a lot for Stoke Mandeville and Leeds General but he'd have done a lot more if he'd poisoned his mate Thatcher's tea while she was PM.
My homophobic grandad* used to shout 'he's one of them ' at the telly in apoplectic rage when Saville was on. Since I was 5, I didn't know many of them , but now I am older and do know many of them , I think I am happy to say that they would't have had him.
* racist too - good old the 70s
Dear Jim,
could you fix it for me to have my tits groped by a vile middle aged DJ on TOTP
Coleen (aged 14)
He wouldn't get within a giant cruising lounge of TheGays with that hair.
Or Val Doonican. Paddy Mc Ginty's Goat, Delaney's Donkey and Agricultural Irish Girl are fucking class.
I bet Thatch is thanking her lucky stars that her mate Jim'll died before her. Eh?
Maybe that is what has made her hang on for so long.
To be fair, while Rolf was and is a top bloke, Rolf On Saturday was indeed shite.
I saw Rolf at Butlins (Bognor Regis) once; he did a two hour set for the kids, then a fairly normal family friendly set, and then told some jaw-droppingly rude jokes for the adults. All original jokes too.
That guy is a fucking legend.
I wasn't dissing Rolf, I was dissing Rolf On Saturday OK.
Val Doonican in that bloody rocking chair on the other hand was shite. And so was Delaney's Donkey.
Someone has to be brave enough to tell the painful TRUTH.
Hands off Val Doonican, if you don't mind.
I have just checked with MaA.
JS was great with kids, he used to do stuff like dressing up in a wet suit and snorkel, climbing in through the hospital windows and then eat their flowers. The kids loved him.
He was also great on the male paraplegic wards, especially when they were having difficulty coming to terms with the fact that they were paralysed.
It was just women he had a problem with.
So, maybe, just odd.
It's beginning to look like the NTT Nonce Jotter will be unblotted by any jottings on the noncery of Savile unless we get something substantial.
I shall write him down on a post-it note though just in case.
"Savile. Wrong'un? Pending."
Not that I really want to him to have done anything, as that implies somewhere there were victims.
A couple that I'm friends with ran into him in Scarborough. Jim'll was very enthusiastic about meeting them, particularly the woman who he persuaded to sit on his knee with much 'Now then, now then. Why don't you come and sit on Uncle Jimmy's knee then, young lady? UhUHuhUHuhUHuHUHH!'
as that implies somewhere there were victims.
I thought they were already beyond noticing.
I just saw the Louie Theroux documentary, the weirdest thing was that he never really broke out of the inane DJ prattle that appeared to be his natural more of conversation rather than a media act.
That didn't really happen. It was just a sexxxy dream you had, 5hats.
I don't recall that bit in the documentary
He's only been dead a couple of days and already gone from being a bog standard paedo to King of the Paedos.
but do they anoint him as their king?
"I just saw the Louie Theroux documentary, the weirdest thing was that he never really broke out of the inane DJ prattle that appeared to be his natural more of conversation rather than a media act."
That is just how they talk in ThatLeeds.
According to the local TV news his body will be on display at the Queen's Hotel in Leeds so that fans can pay their respects.
Make up your own jokes.
but do they anoint him as their king?
No, but they all sing:
For he is the paedo king!
Hurrah!
Hurrah for the paedo king!
And it is, it is a glorious thing,
To be a paedo king!
...all Gilbert and Sullivan, like.
We don't have as much money as the south - we have to make our own entertainment from what we have.
It's like Family Guy except there'll be someone outside selling sticks to poke the dead guy with.
SHIT, that's my idea for Dragons Den up in smoke
er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh
Are you going to view the coffin then, Slasher?
I bet you are.
Oh, someone who worked with Sir Jimmell a couple of times has just told me something, but there's no way in hell I am posting it from work.
I will do it when I get home....
I will, I will.
On threads about celebrity gossip, there is little more annoying than someone coming in to tell you they've got the most explosive rumour, but they can't say anything or they'll be killed. Wily had better make good on his after work promise or we'll all know him as a charlatan and a fake forever more.
He will be abducted by aliens on the way home. It is now unavoidable.
I'm sure that the local TV news said that his body would be on display. Perhaps the hotel objected to an open coffin for elf 'n' safety reasons.
Will there be any of his past lovers throwing themselves into his grave?
They won't be able to fuck him if the coffin lid is closed.
"sinister charabanc", with quotes, is a googlewhack.
Any excuse.
This will cause chaos in the middle of Leeds if queues build up.
Hello, am home.
Anyway, I showed the link about Sir Jim being in a coffin in Leeds to my colleague, who seemed vaguely upset at the idea of Sir Jim “lying in state”, and then went off on a rant about him for about five minutes and called him a “dirty old fucker.”
In the 80s, my colleague worked for a certain British board game manufacturer, and was responsible for the marketing on their best selling product – a world famous footy-based gamed that involved flicking pieces of plastic about.
However, it was beginning to look a bit tired and video games were becoming more popular, so they wanted to relaunch it to broaden its appeal, particularly to girls.
They brought in a PR company who hit upon the snazzy idea of combining the 40th anniversary of said game with a national campaign involving footballers and celebs going into schools to play kids, particularly girls, at this game. Chief celeb number one was “Jim”, who would visit a number of schools to “fix it” for the girls to be footballers (geddit? It was the 80s………)
The campaign worked brilliantly. There was plenty of press coverage in national and local media, even internationally, and there was even a puff piece on Blue Peter. You possible saw it.
However, after a couple of school visits it became increasingly apparent that “Jim” was an absolute liability when it came to the attention he paid certain young ladies.
The marketing team from the certain British board games manufacturer quickly developed “standing orders” for dealing with “Jim”, namely that:
When on school premises, escort “Jim” everywhere. Particularly during toilet breaks. In case he ends up in the wrong toilet. Again.
Choose girls who look under 13 or over 18 for any up-close stuff. They were apparently “safe”.
Under no circumstance leave “Jim” alone with any female aged from about 14 to 17.
My colleague said there was loads more, but he then had a bit of a wobble about it and wouldn’t say any more.
I shall work on him tomorrow.
That is all.
Well really. All that and dreadful tracksuits.
Ta for that.
world famous footy-based gamed
Was that Waddington's Dribble and Shoot?
An ex-girlfriend of mine had met him when she was 14 on a schooltrip and she said that all her friends thought he was bit pervey. Plus there is the Coleen Nolan incident.
#380 Aye, that's the one.
Even anecdotal evidence that he had a (truly shocking) attraction to fertile young women and lacked the social skills to deal with that appropriately does not excuse the vileness of this thread. It's the same mentality that gleefully smeared Chris Jefferies.
Never heard of him. Do repeat it.
Come on Max, you know you want to smear Chris Jefferies!
Thanks for giving us gossip properly (and not being a fake and a charlatan), Wily.
Of course, Wily's friend might be a fake and/or charlatan, so remember to keep your mind a little bit open even while enjoying the sick jokes.
Yes, let's all keep our mind open about a creepy fiddlist.
Which is worse I wonder, being goosed by Jimell Fixit or married to Shane Richie.
This is developing into a Savile Row.
Suits me.
Looks like I've been collared!
Apparently he's going to be 'lying in state' in Leeds. Necrophiliacs, now's your big chance.
Unless he's dressed in his vest, shellsuit and jewellery, in which case he'll be lying in a state.
Will be buried in his track suit and gold jewellery? With votive objects such as a cigar to aid his voyage to the afterlife.
For those who aren't ardent fans of the Nolan sisters, it's at 3.30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JygLGzNhiD8
yuck
I take it you'd choose the Shane Richie option
Pretty tame, by any standards. Don't DJs squeeze young girls like, all the time?
Like Jonathan King?
Nowadays it's more like ho's and bitches.
Don't DJs squeeze young girls like, all the time?
Very very few of the girls are 14.
That wasn't just a matey squeeze, that was copping a feel.
I'm sure Jonathan King never squeezed any young girls
Jimmy Savile would have done well to have followed his example in that regard
Anyway, whether he was a nonce is irrelevant. He was a DJ, and that is a far more serious crime.
I have to ask, what were the reasons that he stopped working at Leeds Royal?
Perhaps he wanted to take work home with him.
Did he feel dead earnest?
I don't think that would really be appropriate even if it is what he would have wanted
Oh sorry you said FLOCKing
There was a mortuary attendant in a hospital in West London who, it transpired, had his girlfriend visit him occasionally on his night shift.
He was fired.
Shamelessly stolen from elsewhere, but this has just made me snigger hugely: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/arts/television/
jimmy-savile-tv-personality-dies-at-84.html?_r=2
At Christmastime the children’s present was a trip to a department store to see the toys.
Mr. Savile never married, though in talking of women he often described himself as a Lothario who could never be trapped into staying all night. “Good heavens,” he said in a 2000 BBC television profile, “anything more than two hours — brain damage!”
Information on survivors was unavailable.
Yike!
From above link:-
The coffin, alas, will be closed.
Class.
That's a dreaful article and why do the New York Times care?
Mr. Freeman was one of a rotating cast of co-hosts and guest hosts that over time included Davy Jones of the Monkees and Elton John. This arrangement, Mr. Savile often said, was to avoid overexposing himself.
I agree. Its a fucking crap article.
Bloody Hell, anyone read Popbitch?
I read Popbitch. I was going to cut and paste but then the formatting went all weird when I tried to post it in here.
Apologies for formatting.
Since Popbitch launched in 2000, we've often been asked which celebrity we'd had most stories about. It's not David Beckham. Nor even Paul Danan. "Jimmy Savile", was always the answer. Among a host of strange rumours is this one, the strangest. It involved Mr Savile, a penchant for necrophilia... and access to the morgue at Leeds General Infirmary which, the story went, he was given in return for his charity work. We've been told this story by probably 100+ people - including two DJs, six journalists and a member of the House of Lords - it was even supposed to be one of Larry Grayson's favourite yarns. But most often it was told to us by a Leeds resident, the Rev Goatboy, late of this parish, who always promised to leave the evidence to support this wild theory with one reliable person, on condition we'd only use it after Savile's death. Sadly, none of us can remember who was supposed to have been the guardian of this evidence. So we have none. We'll have to add this magnificent rumour to the pantheon of apocraphal celebrity stories for now. Unless it's you that has the evidence... (if so: hello@popbitch.com, please)
Oh, it worked.
Yay!
Popbitch basically said they are close to getting corpse fucking proof
But they haven't got it.
Sounds like a dead letter to me
Maybe there's no proof because it was made up by inadequates.
Or because there are no witnesses alive to tell the tale
Popbitch also linked to a bonkers page on David Icke's website, I think some of the people mentioned are still alive. Best not link.
I just read that, completely barmy and has actually made me feel quite ill, how does Icke getaway with it?, I'm scared to even utter a word of it.
A unifying conspiracy theory that incorporates Jimmy Savile, Lord Rothschild, Margaret Hodge and the Kray Twins certainly can't be described as unambitious in scale.
I doubt we will ever get proof that Sir Jinglejangle fucked corpses.
All we have is tittle tattle and heresay.
But, given that he was a corpse fucker, that's enough for me.
If he'd done it at all recently, I'd expect someone to have recorded it on their phone.
Yes - that's right, picture the scene.
Dead men don't do kiss and tell
If that nice nurse at the LGI is to be believed, it predated the use of cameras on mobile phones. He was at Stoke Mandeville for about 15 years, wasn't he?
Popbitch got nothing. Like Garrick I'm staring to think the weird old fucker didint have anything criminal to hide after all.
Listen here, popstar, I saw him in the flesh at Otley market once. The shorts he was wearing were obscenely short. The kind a deviant would wear.
So think on.
Look - I've never knowingly met a corpse fucker, and I've never knowingly met Jimmy Savile, therefore...
They are still keeping my therapist in fine wines and foreign holidays.
Self-deprecation is a high-risk humour strategy for a suspected corpse-shagger.
But most often it was told to us by a Leeds resident, the Rev Goatboy, late of this parish
I do not believe that anyone was genuinely called 'the Rev Goatboy'. That has to be made up.
Towlie, being from Leeds, were your parents acquainted with Mr Savile at all?
Sadly, betty, I am only an immigrant to Leeds, and not a true Loiner born and bred, so no.
heh!
I should hope so. She's only 30 after all.
I know a nurse who has worked at LGI for many years and she has no gossip, I'm afraid.
I do find it hard to imagine that Jim could regularly roger corpses without anyone noticing, unless he manages to keep them all quiet due to his underworld connections or because they think he's a smashing bloke off the telly.
Maybe he bribed them with gold and cigars. Or offered them a free dedication on the radio.
or he let them sit in his magic chair and handed out unauthorized Jim'll Fix It medallions
Is necrophilia a victimless crime?
So are there any photos of thousands filing past the coffin yet? All I can find in today's press is this:
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/central-leeds/sir_jimmy_savile_s_commando_training_ordeal_
exclusive_1_3936017
And the only scurrilous insinuation I can draw from it is that Savile was left-handed.
I think that the Lying in State is on Tuesday. Avoid the centre of Leeds.
Fortunately I'm not in Leeds on Tuesday.
Well at least you now have something to occupy you at lunchtime.
I think that the Lying in State is on Tuesday.
Just on Tuesday? Are there not thousands clammering to file past the coffin? Does it really take that long to fit the animatronics?
Book of condolence?
A Savile book of condolence would make an interesting read.
Horrible flashback to the Ayatollah Khomeni's funeral, I just had. Let's hope the people of Leeds don't allow their grief to overcome them in such an undignified manner.
I'm fairly sure they won't.
There were a fair few corpse touchers in the crowd that day
... and secret close up TV pictures reveal a blonde haired white dude in a gold lame tracksuit starting the disturbance ...
I might go to view the coffin, if it's not raining, and there's nothing better to do.
It will be well guarded by the police. You'll need to penetrate the ring of steel.
Take pics and comments from the book of condolence.
DO IT.
Don't forget to shout out CLUNK-CLICK, YOU KIDDY-FIDDLING WEIRDO as the coffin is loaded into the hearse.
Play it safe - shove a stake through his heart
Don't forget to shout
And run after the hearse, banging angrily on the side.
All these unkind comments... you know he'll come back and haunt us, particularly those of us who have impressionable teenage daughters. All you'll hear will be the faint jingle-jangling of jewellery in the dead of night and you'll catch a whiff of cigar smoke before the words "How's about that then guys and gals?" appear in blood on the walls.
Bob, Jacob or Jennifer Aniston's Labrador?
I am still traumatised by the vision of him climbing through children's hospital windows dressed in a wetsuit.
That's eeven more frightening than Pennywise the Clown.
btw,
The thing about Colleen Nolan must be semi-public knowledge.
I posted on it, because the Nolan sisters themselves (on some BBC1 nostalgia documentary about TOTP in its 70's heyday) were recounting (cheerily, which was even more gobsmacking) how they had to form a human shield round Colleen to stop her being chased round by Savile on set.
Euuuugghhhhhh
Colleen wasn't in that actual interview.
Had no idea about the Auberon Waugh obit though. Tried googling it and not come up with anything.
When Cyril Smith died last year there were fawning tributes from all the papers, and I suppose he's still thought of by most people as a kindly fat eccentric. It took Private Eye and Kevin Maguire in the Mirror to point out there were sworn affadvits that he used to abuse boys in the local care home which Smith never sued for libel over.
*returns from googling*
Oh ok maybe she was interviewed after all
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Jim'll+feel+it%3B+FI
X+IT+HERO+GOT+A+TOUCH+FRIENDLY.-a0190508322
Byline: BY PETER ROBERTSON
"THIS is the moment when a normally mild-mannered Nolan sister almost turned nasty.
Coleen Nolan revealed the horror she felt when she was intimately cuddled by TV presenter Jimmy Savile as a young teenager on Top Of The Pops.
Now aged 43 and a panelist on ITV 1s Loose Women, Coleen says Maureen, Anne, Bernie and Linda - performing as The Nolan Sisters - glowered at the then 53-year old Savile as he held Coleen tightly under her right breast. Footage of the incident was shown on a BBC2 documentary We Are Family, which was broadcast on Saturday, December 6.
Coleen, who had been an audience guest on that 1979 edition of TOTP , a year before joining her family's group, said: "I stood next to Jimmy.
"I was 14, and he was all over me.
"I could see my sisters glaring: 'You touch her and we'll kill you!' "And they would have." "
http://www.people.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2011/11/06/sir-jimmy-saville-set-to-snub-family-in-will-102039-23540984/
His sister had 19 kids?! Have I read that right?
And I mean "had" as in "is the parent of". So no filth!
I want to go and have a look and check if it really is 45 degrees.
Do you have a large enough protractor?
I would want to ensure there is a stake through the heart to stop him rising again.
Oh for the love of shitting fucking Christ.
IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.
No, whoever started a thread about it must be a right tit.
What do you mean it doesn't matter if he rises again? Are you seriously saying you wouldn't care if a zombified Jimell Fixit roamed the Earth? Wont someone think of the children?
The dead's fucker FFS
I was at a meeting last week in Leeds and got a taxi from the station just outside the Queens Hotel where it is lying in state. I asked the taxi driver if there had been a lot of grief tourists coming in and he said "no one gives a fookin chuff about the old puff".
That's Leeds for you.
I am not sure why the nephew even wanted to talk to the press. I would have told them to cock off.
Well, at least you made the effort to make the journey to Leeds to pay your respect Chaz
I am not sure why the nephew even wanted to talk to the press.
Quite often they offer money.
Well, if it's the only money he's going to get courtesy of Uncle Jim...
This has just appeared on the front page a few mins ago.
Hospital Hands
- Advice 06-Nov-2011 23:00:26 (22 posts, 0 new)
Sir Jimmy Savile dies aged 84
- Media 06-Nov-2011 22:59:39 (548 posts, 0 new)
if jimmy comes back as a zombie he will be a fit as fuck running wrestling cycling zombie,think of the potential plotlines and spinoffs...
Emerging from the pit, breaking in to the nearest cigar shop then off in search of
a moments silence pleas for the funeral march http://youtu.be/dh6wtATgJRs ...
Savile sings (Very Unlikely, 1962):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWplR88v208
Jarvis Cocker's tribute to Sir Jimmy Savile begins 50 minutes into this programme:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ptsjd/episodes/
player
HIGNFY strangely brief on the Jimell issue. Was anyone here at the recording?
I had no idea he'd made any records I'm ashamed to say.
Not the worst singing I've heard. Certainly nothing more horrible than other singers around that time.
Though the B-side is pretty xenophobic.
A Leeds man, xenophobic? Whatever next.
"City of thicko cavemen", according to trainspotter.
Isn't he from Castleford or Pontefract or some other BNP armpit town? Because that's a trifle rich.
""City of thicko cavemen", according to trainspotter."
My girlfriend loves the song Life On Mars by the David Bowie, particularly because the lines:
See the wrong man beating up the wrong guy
Oh man, look at those cave-men go....
remind her of growing up in Meanwood.
Meanwood sounds like it should be in GTA San Andreas.
Fuck off! There's a Waitrose now, and bar with plate glass windows that does platters.
I read that as "Patters". Which gave me a very funny image of said poster.
Meanwood contained an odd mix of the leafy suburban and grimly proletarian flavours of death when I lived there.
It's well gentrified now, Yusuf. Even The Primrose has taken down the 'NO DEALING' signs.
Meanwood is better than a lot of Leeds, to be fair.
Even The Primrose has taken down the 'NO DEALING' signs.
And the handwritten cardboard sign "STRIPPERS - THURSDAY NIGHT".
"There's a Waitrose now, and bar with plate glass windows that does platters."
And an Alfred bar, and right next to that, the infamous "Conny" club, probably the inspiration for that David Bowie song. A suburb of contrasts.
I keep being threatened with a trip to the Conny Club, her dad is a member. It sounds horrible.
A working men's club, The Conservative Club.
Affiliated, I believe, to the Conservative Party, but I doubt any of its members vote for that, it sounds rough as dog's boots.
One day, Arnold, do you fancy braving the Conservative Club near us?
I expect they have a Savile shrine, just to keep this tawdry thread on topic.
Not much more than I fancy braving the Meanwood Connie club, although I would like to see if there are photos of Jimmy Savile on the walls of either venue.
Snap.
There's a Savile pic in the Sheesh, if I recall correctly.
I'll never touch their raita again.
And definitely one in Little Tokyo.
'The gyozas look just like a corpse's fingers!'
I suspect the photo of him in Meanwood Connie Club is the one with Frank Bruno and Peter Sutcliffe.
There was a photo of him in the Flying Pizza last time I was there.
Is Marcel's cafe in Meanwood worth a visit?
As per fucking usual, a perfectly crommulent thread has been given LeedsAIDS.
Stop it right now.
Are there any nice bits of Leeds? I've been to the student area, but where do poshos live - Roundhay, Alwoodley?
Meanwood just doesn't sound very pleasant, like Splott in Cardiff.
Are there any nice bits of Leeds? I've been to the student area, but where do poshos live - Roundhay, Alwoodley?
In the NE suburbs such as Alwoodley, Shadwell and Roundhay, then slightly further out in commuter belt rustic places like Thorner, Wike, Scarcroft, East Keswick and Harewood. A lot of poshos go further and move to Harrogate or beyond. Savile had a flat on the edge of Roundhay Park.
In the NW of the city, places like Rawdon, Guiseley, Weetwood, Adel and West Park. Possibly bits of Horsforth.
Meanwood has its moments, but is probably too full of students to achieve poshness.
South Leeds can be forgotten about.
I spent an afternoon in a public house in Leeds in the company of a mardy goth and a sarcastic Northern woman.
I shall not be doing that again.
Good day to you all.
Basically, north Leeds. The nearer you get to Harrogate, the posher it is.
mardy goth
You mean Towlie?
The world might be going bankrupt but BBC Breakfast covers his coffin being delivered for a lying in state.
Surely he should be lying in a state?
Looks like his coffin is surrounded by Ferrero Rocher.
He's being buried at an angle of 45 degrees so he can see the sea.
That's odd, I would have thought he'd have been buried at an angle of 45 degrees face down in his normal pose.
Hustlers Row in Meanwood Park, is lovely, it is like being in the Dales, but with Waitrose and a couple of good bars within five minutes walk, Chank.
Harrogate, Pool, Arthington are all very nice, probably the poshest suburbs of Leeds.
I was reading that his final resting place will be kept secret.
Just in case.
Looks like his coffin is surrounded by Ferrero Rocher.
Free sweets! Get your free sweets!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-15632264
Shadrack22 will be tweeting live from the Queen's Hotel later on this morning.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/08/leeds-pays-tribute-jimmy-savile
Shadrack22 there, taking a picture through his tears of grief.
There will also be a tribute from Broadmoor secure psychiatric hospital where he worked as a volunteer porter.
Oh, mercy.
Aren't you going to go and pay your respects?
I'm gonna go and watch the funeral live. You know, as it happens.
Hahahahahaha @605
relurks
I was a bit disappointed with the goldness of his gold coffin, although it's possible that my tears have obscured it's shininess.
Can't they wheel him around with
the Olympic Torch so we can all pay our respects? Two birds innit?
Indeed. And I still maintain that plastination and animatroncis was the way forward. It's definitely what he would have wanted.
I have just spoken to someone who lives in noted Savile haunt Otley, and he says that the creepy fucker used to go around Otley town centre poncing food and drink off people, despite being a rich cunt.
With Sir Jimmy's passing, some of the colour has left Leeds.
Mate of a mate went to have a look at lunchtime, I am awaiting the pics.
I thought of doing the same thing, but thought it might be in poor taste. Some of us standards, you know.
So all the rest of the ghouls going to gawp are doing it in good taste?
News just in:
Please note the following road closures in Leeds City Centre due to arrangements for Sir Jimmy Saville’s funeral tomorrow, Wednesday 9th November 2011.
The roads affected are:
Cookridge Street: Closed between The Headrow and Great George Street for most of the day.
All Parking Bays between Calverley Street and Dudley Way, and Loading Bays between Great George Street and Rossington Street will also be suspended.
St Annes Street: Closed between The Light Car Park Access and Cookridge Street for most of the day.Great George Street: Closed between Calverley Street and Dudley Way, from 1pm to 6pm.
The Loading Bay between Cookridge Street and Dudley Way will also be suspended for most of the day.
Dudley Way: Will become a two-way road for most of the day. The Light car park will remain open, however from 1pm to 6pm vehicles will only be able to leave the car park because of the Great George Street closure.
For information, the funeral cortege will leave the Queen’s Hotel at around 1.30pm and proceed into the Woodhouse area of the city before returning to St Anne’s Cathedral on Cookridge Street between 1.45 and 1.50pm.
Motorists are advised to allow extra time for journeys in and around the city centre during much of the day, particularly during the funeral procession.
It's what Saville would have wanted. Road closures.
Just goes to show that this is the age of the train after all.
Our greatest celebrity, after Barry Cryer and the lead singer from Smokie.
I will actually be genuinely a little bit sad when Barry Cryer dies.
"Our greatest celebrity, after Barry Cryer and the lead singer from Smokie."
And John Craven.
Also, Jack Shepherd (lugubrious actor) went to Chapel Allerton Primary.
What about Mel B, eh? How soon you forget.
Even the skies are weeping for Savile, who will be buried in his Help for Heroes wristband.
Don't be too saddened at Savile's passing - what with James Martin and Chris Moyles, Leeds will be still well represented in the National Treasure stakes for many years to come!
Although no-one will remember who the Kaiser Chiefs were by 2014 - I read that somewhere the other day.
It isn't 2014 yet.
Ah, this was the article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/oct/27/when-bands-fall-off-cliffs?INTCMP=SRCH
Indeed.
I love CiF.
how this government could learn a few things about looking after people from him
Yes, they could. Shame on you, David Cameron.
While some of his antics may have seemed a bit sleazy, somehow you always felt (unlike Gary Glitter, for instance, who always came over as a slimeball), that it was all harmless and perfectly innocent.
All harmless and perfectly innocent.
Late 1960's - my neighbour's in the local bakers with her baby in the pushchair. Jimmy Saville walks in and, while waiting to be served, makes the expected fuss over the baby. Only later on does my neighbour find the five-pound note Saville has tucked into the baby's blanket. I bet you'd find there a lot of stories like this about the man.
Tucked into the baby's blanket. Yes. I bet you would find a lot of stories like that about him.
"I will NEVAR FORGET the Runston Parvas."
I bet you couldn't hum one of their "tunes".
he put back a hell of a lot for a hell of a lot of people (many of whom didn't even know about it).
Oh, this is just too easy.
Like I said elsewhere, it's raining, it's middle-aged women at a loose end.
Haha. I must apologise as it seems fans of all ages have turned up to pay their respects.
Fans of all ages with the common unifying characteristic of being unemployed.
Apparently, thousands have turned up to file past his coffin.
Is that the Savile Row?
Hmmm, call me cynical, but I bet that's going to be used as an excuse for students to be late/absent tomorrow ...
Leeds will be still well represented in the National Treasure stakes for many years to come
Well, Jim will soon be buried treasure.
I'm loving the picture of the 5 usual suspects. Is the one in the middle Sutcliffe on community leave?
Towlie
Maybe they could bury Chris Moyles as well whilst they're at it? The knocking sounds from beneath the earth would stop after a bit.
He must have had that coffin ordered well in advance. Do undertakers keep steel coffins in stock?
Almost christmas too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN2vQtgMk_4
Being dead was a great career move for Jacko, perhaps Jim saw the opportunity.
Is the moniker "Sir Jim'll" in the common parlance or was it one of you lot interviewed on the Radio 4 PM programme tonight?
Smokie lead singer .... thought they were from Bradford.
Barry Cryer ... ISIHAC is back next week - hurrah.
5 usual suspects What is that guy wearing on his head? HE sounded embarrassed talking to the cameras on the clip I saw but a white head band? Really?
Barry Cryer ... ISIHAC is back next week - hurrah.
Yay! Best laugh in showbizz.
Smokie lead singer .... thought they were from Bradford
Lived in Bramhope. As did Eddie Waring.
For the first time I am irritated with the Beeb, apparently you can watch the funeral on Beeb website.
Waste of money.
The newsreader also helpfully informed me that Sir Jim was a big donor funding medical research.
I'll let you make your own jokes up at this news.......
He invented many new medicines, including Savilon, an ointment that combines lubricant and embalming properties.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/nov/09/jimmy-savile-leeds-funeral-mass
A woman this morning was on TV, moaning that the coffin wasn't gold and that was the only reason she went.
In danger of giving this thread LeedsAIDS again, does The Primrose still have the gammy handed midget and his impossibly large wife running the place?
I lived two minutes up Meanwood Road from there....
My dear parents finding me somewhat tardy in the development stakes sent me to the local school for handicapped children in Brighton from the age of 3 to 6.As a consequence, I was interviewed by the deceased for his Sunday radio show. Happily, I didn't fall into the teen girl category so emerged relatively unscathed, although I recall his breath or body odour was repulsive.Too much charity running I can only presume.
This thread doesn't have LeedsAIDS, it has MeanwoodAIDS. Cho.
Nothing else of note has happened today in Yorkshire if the local BBC lunchtime news is to be believed.
And still the MSM are holding back the copious kiddy fiddler/necrophilia stories. It can only because they have been got at by Margaret Hodge and the Rothschilds.
Did he specify which end his head was to be when they bury the coffin at 45 degrees?
I think his body should have been in state in the local morgue. That would have been more appropriate
I giggled when one of his chums was asked if Sirjim was lonely, whereupon he eulogised about all his friends and how he walked with kings. "He was friends with Margaret Thatcher!"
An ok guy then...
Good grief, despite him being buried in another region, Jimmy's final resting place was on my local news.
They confirmed it is at a 45 degree angle and then Colin Briggs said "ah, how touching".
snigger
I don't understand.
"He'll have a view of the sea."
Apart from being inside a steel coffin, six feet underground and DEAD.
He's underground now, with your dead grannie. A comforting thought.
Bloke here is from Scarborough and says he wouldn't be able to see the sea from the cemetry even if he was alive, the stupid dead weirdo.
I feel sorry for the poor gravediggers - it must be a bugger trying to dig a grave for a coffin at a 45% angle.
And robbed all his jewellry and HOPE FOR HEROES wristband.
I've look at GoogleEarth and he would be able to see the sea "If it wasn't for the houses in between".
Is he buried with The Duchess? It's what she would have wanted.
He didn't appear on the third day so we're awaiting his second coming.
As it were.
What I dont understand is is his head 6 feet under or his feet? If it's his feet, his head will be almost sticking out of the top. If it's his feet, the poor gravedigger has had to dig a very deep hole...
Isn't there some group which already does that so they'll be ready for resurrection, or something?
Any miracles attested yet? It can only be a matter of time.
+700
700!!
He even got mentioned on Thought For The Day the other morning, with sanctimonious Clifford Longley opining that Savile was a 'holy fool' who had to bear the cross of jibes about his personal life and alleged rumours whilst he carried out simple acts of charity.
There hasn't been a special tribute prog to Savile yet has there? They normally cut together talking heads and vox pops fairly quickly... unless I missed it and it was on during the One Show
There was one before Have I got news for you on Friday
Michael Balls was eugoogilizing him yesterday on R4. Saying he had a disabled actor (?) friend who was stuck out in Foreign and he wrote to Sir Jimmel asking for help to get him back to the UK and Jimmel did indeed fix it for him to be transferred to Stoke Mandeville, where Balls saw him every time he went to visit, being a porter and winding everyone up.
That's pretty much trafficking.
Hahaha.
I can't believe the BBC are resurrecting Jim'll Fix It and are looking for contestants.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/shows/beonashow
/jimll_fix_it
Oh no - it's kids only...
I wonder which Jim they'll get to present it. Jimmy Carr?
Krankie obviously.
Jim Davidson, Jim Corr or Jim Kerr.
Or all three.
Madeleine McCann?
haha!Sorry.
I'm interested in his links with the Royal Family. They all seemed to like him a lot ...
My eyes were assaulted this morning by a picture of Jimmy in a newspaper, with no top on sticking his thumbs in the air.
The actual story involves Jimmy sending a kidney machine by helicopter to a man with learning difficulties who was in hospital.
Good job it wasn't being sent by Noel.
Again, there is something really creepy about that.
securely backfill
All well and good. But what if he digs his way out through the bottom of the coffin and comes up next to the grave?
Well he's not going to get much of a sea view through all that then.
Possibly he's radioactive and that would explain the concrete
It's steel, it should slow him down a bit.
A bit, maybe. But his stomach acid and various other bodily fluids will corrode the metal eventually and he'll be away. He didn't get that green beret by lying around in a coffin.
I thought Ann Bronte was buried in Whitby?
Maybe he wants to avoid post-death buggery?
I thought Ann Bronte was buried in Whitby?
That's Anne Brontë.
Genuine newspaper headline I read today.
"The day Jim fixed it for the hospice".
Sometimes I lean out of the car window and do the Jimmy Savile Tarzan noise just to astound pedestrians.
Are you sure it's the noise that's doing the astounding?
And are you sure they're astounded, rather than simply disturbed?
Were you driving on the M5 in Somerset the other week by any chance, Slasher?
er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh er-uh
The disturbing thing is, that having met you, I can now picture you doing that, and it is scaring me.
Also, shouting in a NE accent "Haway, sooooon!"
Don't do it near a cemetery or you'll be arrested for kerb crawling.
If that's the woman who was with him the day I met him at the LGI, I thought she was his carer!
her romance with ‘Jim’, as she called him
What a wacky person she must be.
BBC4 biopic on the way, apparently.
No main "star" cast yet though. Suggestions on a postcard.
Have they checked with Jim's agent to determine whether he is free for the gig himself?
And he's not here to give out cigars.
Steady John. They've spent time putting that coffin at a 45 degree angle. They can't just drag him out now.
Things just gelled. Jimmy drove a camper van in those days and it seems he carried Christine out of the cafe caveman-style on the day. And things happened from there.
Hmmmmm
Clubbed her over the head and dragged her by the hair?
That counts as romance in Leeds I suppose.
Everyone needs a bit of foreplay.
I thought that was when he had her tied up in his camper van and stubbed out his cigars on her?
I'm afraid that this resurrected thread is still displaying the bad taste it started with.
Well done, everybody.
Indeed, her errant father appearing on telly every week fixing it for all those other kids.
A whole hour of Saville on BBC2 starting right now.
He made a remark to an ill woman in hospital about her having a see-through nightie.
I chuckled most at the little girl grooming Sir Jim'll, not to mention the Fixit (title?) footage if him shepherding 3 kids into the back of a car.
He made a remark to an ill woman in hospital about her having a see-through nightie
Come on. He was just trying to cheer her up.
Honi soit qui mal y pense!
Come on, you aren't expecting sensible, nice things on this thread are you?
Honi soit qui mal y nonce, more like
It's all a bit "they said this" isn't it?
The Mail are claiming something about the BBC who in turn who were apparently going to report something someone else said etc etc.
And whatever the BBC do, they're wrong according to the Mail regardless.
What do people think about the campaign to rename Leeds Bradford Airport the Sir Jimmy Savile Airport?
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/yep-letters/let_s_fly_with_sir_jimmy_1_2203504
A letter. From 2009. Almost certainly from a mental.
Oh bollocks, I thought it was all my idea.
I see that according to Wiki his coffin was later encased in concrete "as a security measure".
Was that to keep people out or keep him in?
Is this the tip of a very large iceberg, I wonder?
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/bbc-denies-burying-jimmy-savile-sex-abuse-investigation/
It's taken longer than I would have expected to emerge.
It's taken longer than I would have expected to emerge.
That'll be due to the concrete surrounding his coffin.
UhahUhahUhgate?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Saville#Career_
and_personal_life
".. there have been trains and, with apologies to the hit parade, boats and planes (I am a member of the 40,000 ft club) and bushes and fields, corridors, doorways, floors, chairs, slag heaps, desks and probably everything except the celebrated chandelier and ironing board."
It is outrageous that the BBC did not provide chandeliers and an ironing board in the dressing room of such an exeptional performer.
he preferred al fresco...
http://www.radiorewind.co.uk/images/jimmy_saville_
park_frame.jpg
whoa, from that Telegraph article:
Reporters on the current affairs programme were also told of claims that two other celebrities, both still alive, sexually abused girls at Television Centre in the 1970s.
Who? Ch**s L****am was working as a bit player in comedies around then. Can you libel someone who's already been convicted of a similar offence?
Defamation is open season, but perhaps libel is different.
Can I just say then that that little factoid about CL working at BBCTV centre was PURELY COINCIDENTAL to the earlier story. Thanks!
Who is up for this?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-17662363
The tour has been set-up by local guide Ken Goor
Ken posts on here as SlasherBinderman, by the way.
Anyone who has been watching the TOTP reruns knows that DJs goosing frightened teenagers was practically de rigeur in them days.
I'm on tenterhooks. Do you think he managed it?
The book, priced at £5.99, can also now be bought from Bowness News at Gildersome Green, Morley Market Newsagents, Atkins newsagents, Market Place, Birstall, Howden Clough Self Service Store and the Shoulder of Mutton pub, Bruntcliffe.
Funnily enough Toil, I once went on a walking tour in Leeds city centre led by this character. It was all about the history of various spit and sawdust pubs like the Scarborough and the General Elliot. One of the group peered through the window of the Duncan and was nearly assaulted by a complete stranger.
Why am I not suprised?
The Scarborough isn't spit and sawdust, mind.
The Savile tour should of course take in the Flying Pizza on Street Lane. He used to dine there with his minder.
Sat under the stairs, so he could gaze up the skirts of teens.
The Flying Pizza used to be the BBC restrong of choice. Us newsroom girls took Harry Gration and John Thirlwell there for a nice lunch before they got married.
How's your campaign to have Leeds-Bradford airport renamed The Sir Jimmy Savile Airport coming along, Slasher?
It's gay up North
It's been a long day, and my punctuation and ability to write has gone more awry than usual. They got married to ladies.
The Sir Jimmy Savile International Airport would be a wonderful tribute.
Especially if they made school girls go through them full body scanner things.
slag heaps
Filth.
"I have a passenger call for XXXX wot says, UhUhUhUh, D-dear Jim..."
You'd be able to get some wonderful gold chains in the duty free shop.
Jingle-jangle jingle-jangle...
The Sir Jimmy Savile International Airport would be a wonderful tribute.
Just as John Lennon Airport has the tagline "Above us only sky" they can call it, in tribute to his Sunday morning R1 show :
Jimmy Savile Airport
"It was... The Leeds Bradford Inernational Airport and you get no points if you missed out Bradford."
Or the letter "t"
Crappy Dell keyboard...
ell me abou i !
Dell Keyboards: The Norman Collier of computer hardware.
Sir Jim'll Airport could have a natty slogan like Preswick International's awful "Pure Dead Brilliant" but with a comma after the second word.
“National treasure my arse. If you knew the reality.” Andy Kershaw
http://patricia1957.wordpress.com/
Don't bother clicking the link if you're looking for any more. That is it...
And, as former Radio One DJ and former Ents Sec at Leeds University, Kershaw would have known Saville as well as many.
It's funny how the 'National Treasure' tag has been given by people knowing him from his public persona, whereas people who knew him IRL reckoned he was a sleaze merchant of the first water.
This may already have been on the TOTP'77 thread, but...
from 24.54 to 24.57:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01h5j0j/
Don't have nightmares, kids.
Savile will no doubt appear on "Britain Beware" on Monday.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northerner/2012/jun/14/jimmy-savile-leeds-charities-alison-bellamy-yorkshire-evening-post
"Higher-profile issues remain mysterious, notably the truth or otherwise of the claims by Georgina Ray to have been fathered by Savile with a 19-year-old waitress in a camper van parked at the caff on the A5 near Cannock. Her search for 'closure' has held up probate of Savile's generous will."
That's my wank bank nicely topped up.
Thank you sir from the bottom of my heart.
#836 - that is revolting!
I can't imagine wanting to own anything that once belonged to JS.
Urgh!
Just imagine what sort of things that eye has witnessed.
Just imagine what sort of things that eye has witnessed.
Just when I thought it couldn't get any more revolting ...
"Part of a Top of the Pops outfit"
Brilliant.
LOL
a mounted Brazil nut
What's the name for that perversion? Nuxophile?
Hank - is this the suit from your on-again-off-again avatar?
http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/dreweatts/catalogue-id-2864602/lot-14800279
Love the 'Racist hat' lot.
http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/dreweatts/catalogue-id-2864602/lot-14800483
How accurate are the estimates? They all seem on the high side to me, they reckon they're going to get a ton for three comedy wigs?
Estimates are usually on the lower side to tempt the bidders but with celebrity auctions its a case of anything/everything goes.
You'll have to bid for it.
Who knows what sort of a wronger will end up owning it if you don't.
wear a track suit to the auction. nobody else will think of that.
Who knows, his malevolent spirit might still inhabit some of those items. You could end up being possessed by him.
Now then, now then, now then ...
That's what I say when I come while imagine Sir Jim'll tongueing a corpse.
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He'll be jingling and jangling at the front door like old Marley.
Shouldn't all this stuff have been donated to a Sir Jimmy Savile Museum?
Which could then be burnt down.
Only buy the sweatshirt if you're planning to re-create that scene, Hank.
Which could then be burnt down.
Nonsense.
School tour parties would love to be escorted about such a place while minimum wage staff re-enact great moments from Savile's life using all the items in the museum.
Those links are blocked by our work system. I'm intrigued ...
How much more like Rillington Place could it look without a Golden Virginia tin of pubes for sale?
http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/dreweatts/catalogue-id-2864602/lot-14800312
On second thoughts, not many pubes to be found in his priest hole.
Who is the Peter Sutcliffe-a-like greeting Frank Bruno?
Sutcliffe himself.
To a Scandi style loving homo that frilly chandelabra is as close to a 50s sex murderer's garret as you could get.
I imagine Rillington Place as more a bare lightbulb sort of place - maybe a dust-covered cloth job for best.
Bt that just might be the film. After all, Christie was a stickler for respectability, so Chaz might well be right.
I laughed at the spade, because I am quite sick. Did you really bid for it, Hank?
Pics or it didn't happen.
BBC has a news story about the auction now:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-19043994
Jimmy Savile. A very strange man.
Can't wait to see the TV bio movie.
Why is it that there are so many strange English entertainers of a certain age who either live with their mothers or have very strange relationships with their mothers?
I wonder who the next generation of them will be?
Or has the strange single man entertainer phenomenon died out along with Jimmy Savile, Frankie Howerd, Bennie Hill, Kenneth Williams and the rest?
<shudder>
Lot 213 is an artificial eye made into jewellery...
I guess there's strange mother things throughout society but it's mainly entertainers whose biographies get written, read and made into TV programmes.
But who else are you thinking of, Dorian?
I can only think of Kenneth Williams off the top of me head.
Lot one - the Highland suit - was bought by a local man.
And I am sure Shadrack22 will look very fetching in it too.
Up yours, Delors!
The eye went for 75 quid. Fuck, if I'd known that I would have bid for it
Jimmy Savile News@JimmySavileNews
Jim'll Fix It: Jimmy Savile's red magic chair just sold for £8,500 estimate was 10-15k. #jimmysavile #savileauction
1. Tin of pubes (mothers').
2. Gags- for various ages.
3. The Joy of Sex- Makaton Version
Anyone on hols today- Jimmy Saville's swivvel eyed love chile on This Mourning.
MrsI on seeing the swivel chair: "That'll be full of his old farts."
Urghhh. LOL
Urghhh. LOL
ChachaChazz repulsed? That's got to be a first!
Everyone has a limit.
I wonder if it'll ever come out about Jimmy, assuming the rumors have any substance at all.
I know I've heard it from various sources. My ex was a nurse at St. James' in Leeds and she said there was gossip about him at Leeds Infirmary.
The man was that odd you have to wonder, don't you?
I mean, you're a middle aged man, you live with your mum, you dye your hair all colours, you're a radio and TV personality who has a keen interest in children; you're someone who plainly doesn't have girlfriends, your sexuality is undefined, you don't relate to human beings in anything approaching an adult or reasonable way other than some peculiar, affected condescension, and you work part time as an unpaid porter in the local hospital.
Can you get much more weird?
they wouldn't let him in as he was too bonkers even for them
Michael Jackson
Apart from the obvious, I mean...
Does Michael Jackson fiddle with himself now?
Or, indeed, Sir Jim?
She's a right dead slut.
The Duchess.
He's just after telling her how he'll wrap her in polythene and hang her in his wardrobe when she snuffs it.
That's a look of pure terror in her eyes.
Or lust.
When good necrophiliacs go to heaven they are greeted by 72 dead virgins.
That's old news to Jimmy. Sounds like the boon of a week's volunteering in Leeds General morgue.
Documentary claims Jimmy Savile sexually abused teenage girls, including one aged 13, during the Seventies
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2183840/Documentary-claims-Jimmy-Savile-sexually-abused-teenage-girls-including-aged-13-Seventies.html#ixzz22f8yLSL1
the film – which one programme insider said would ‘shock the nation’
I'm shocked it has taken so long to emerge. Lucky that the sale of tat has finished.
I'm shocked that he tried it on with the pre-deceased.
I think all young offenders and care cases should be sent for a country ride with a dangerous well known TV peed. It would solve such criminality and fecklessness in one fell swoop, and take us back to the fabled era of free for all touching that the Gove wants us to know once more.
and Peter Sutcliffe
and Frank Bruno.
They have connections
Is Chazza a Pedda? Missed that one. Knew about his poovery.
listens for Tom Daley Police....
"I find, yer maj, that if I promise a lass the chance to meet Sooty at the ol' Beeb Centre I have to beat 'em off with a stick, ah-uh-ah-uh-ah-uh."
"Very good, very good. Of course, I have a palace..."
Will we be getting a documentary about Sir Cyril Smith and his amateur "medical examinations" of young boys too?
I hope so, I find politicians even more interesting.
Ch4 as part of their Funny Fortnight just showed an episode of Gervais's short-lived chat show 'Meet Ricky Gervais'.
Savile was a guest. Ricky got him to speak about his time as a miner. JS told about it and explained he had to stop when he broke his back down t'pit.
"Since then, you've been a DJ, host of Top of the Pops, a wrestler and run 128 marathons. Don't you think you're fit to go back to work now?"
The Mail did a big piece about that. And many people wondering why nobody mentioned it earlier if it's true.
I think that a lot of stuff went on in the seventies and perhaps eighties (Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith?) that was highly dodgy, but only very borderline paedy. Mandy Smith looked like a woman but was 13 or 14. Some eyebrows were raised, but Wyman married her when she 18 and sort of legitimised it. I think it really fucked her up though.
There is - or was - a weird liberal seventies hangover attached to sex with youngish women, especially if they were dressing to look older.
Twiggy - back in the sixties - was in a serious relationship with her manager, ten years older, from the age of 15.
I'm not saying it was right, but these things just slipped under the radar.
Allegedly. I've never read anything to substantiate it.
You're in for it now, Kerebus, attacking the Sainted Peel.
I would imagine that quite a lot of men in the music business took advantage of their positions, one way or another.
I've never read anything to substantiate it.
It's no secret he married a 15 year old, it's in his 'autobiography'.
Anyway, aren't you all pleased that Sir Jimmy died long before the Paralympics? Otherwise he'd have been all over the telly.
Something else I thought about while walking home...while the seventies were liberal in some ways, there was also this old-fashioned unspoken feeling of "Well if she's dressed up like that, what did she expect?". So a girl would not get a lot of sympathy if she received unwanted attention (or more) from an older man, if she had gone out - as most of us did - looking a good five years older.
I can remember getting into some very tricky situations at parties when I was 13 - fortunately the guys (who were between about 21 and 30) seemed to have a sense of honour or decency, much to my disgust at the time.
I remember the marvellous Julie banging on about the Peel stuff in one of her columns. She had a point, but it tended to get lost in her usual "all male musicians of a certain age are misogynistic dinosaurs and Girls Aloud are the best group EVAH! in the history of recorded music" schtick.
Bill Wyman's son married Mandy Smith's mum.
"Chieftan" - spelling mistake.
Tut, tut.
No comment on "friend of" the "LITTLE SISTERS OF THE POOR"?
'I, Sir Jimmy Savile/ Do lie beneath this stone/ From here I view North & South Bay/ And the place that was my home/ The angle that I lie at is a 45 degree/ And that is so I always/ Have a view out to the sea,'Stop, share this view I’ve chosen/ And spend some time with me/ Look down towards the castle/ Which we can also see,'And as you leave I thank you/ That you have spent a while/ And I ask that you remember me/ And always - with a smile.'
...PS please don't believe the stuff about me being a paediofile
William Topaz McGonagall, there !!
That would be expensive to remake to correct the spelling mistake. Still, it will all come out of the estate.
I'd forgotten about this. Pleased to see a good man given his due.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Sir_Jimmy_Saville
I see that they can't spell the name either. Just remember: it ends in "vile".
Marvelous little piece by Skynews there. The bit that got most of my attention is at the end:
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It's how I shall always remember Jim now.
Funeral Director Robert Morphet could not understand how the mistake had happened but said: "It will be put right - whatever it takes."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9557822/Sir-Jimmy-Saviles-headstone-unveiled-with-a-spelling-mistake-etched-in-granite.html
Those one eyed Mandeville and Wemlock dolls were modelled entirely on Sir Jimmy's lovewand at different states of arousal.
I will never, never be able to eradicate those images...
Or the sound of him going "UHUHUHUHUHUHUHUUUHH!" whilst he brandishes it.
I often wonder what was the pervy thinking behind those one-eyed monstrosities, and the Lisa Simpson blow job logo.
There's a story in last week's Sunday Post. A woman telling them she first met Jimmy when she was 15 and how she spoke "exclusively about their touching relationship".
Without a hint of irony. She met him when he went to buy a tent for going up Ben Nevis, apparently.
Looks like Justin Lee Collins is heir to the Savile Wrongmo title:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19730639
A string of women have given shocking accounts of how they were allegedly sexually abused by Jimmy Savile when they were young girls, it was revealed today.
The assaults occurred in public places including hospitals, schools and the BBC studios where the children’s TV presenter recorded his family shows, it is claimed.
The explosive accusations, ranging from rape to indecency, are made by up to 10 women who claim that their lives have been “destroyed and devastated” by the late DJ, knighted in 1990.
According to the allegations in a TV documentary screened next Wednesday, Savile abused girls as young as 13 at the height of his fame.
The ITV programme will feature between five and 10 women claiming he was a sexual predator who took advantage of their vulnerablility.
A source who worked with the investigation team told the Standard the show contains “shocking material that really lifts the lid on the icon” and “goes beyond anybody’s comprehension” of what Savile was capable of.
The flamboyant star, who died aged 84 last October, hosted Clunk Click, his 1970s BBC family show, and Jim’ll Fix It, which ran till the mid-Eighties. He also presented the first edition of Top of the Pops in 1964 and the last in 2006.
Some of those who contributed to the documentary are believed to be former pupils of Duncroft Approved School in Staines, Surrey, where Savile was a regular visitor.
Two claimed that he took them for drives in his car and gave them money, cigarettes, records and places in the Clunk Click studio audience in return for “sexual favours”.
In 2007 Surrey Police received a complaint from a woman who said she was indecently assaulted by Savile at Duncroft in the Seventies.
The allegation was investigated but no further action taken.
The documentary — Exposure: The Other Side Of Jimmy — took 12 months to make and the final edit was being done today.
http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/jimmy-savile-sexually-abused-us-as-girls-10-women-tell-tv-expos-8189637.html
Crikey
The flamboyant star, who died aged 84 last October, hosted Clunk Click, his 1970s BBC family show
I remember his 'clunk click every trip' TV public info ads* but not a show of that name.
- to get people to use car seatbelts
"Play It Safe".
As for that programme that's coming on, it's been discussed before. ITV plugged it a while ago.
They were never brave enough to show it whilst he was here of course.
I misread this sentence as "The explosive accusations, ranging from rape to indecency, are made up by 10 women..."
Clunk Click was a show he did before Fix It. They showed a few clips of it on the tribute show last year.
Play It Safe was a horrible show. There are about 3 episodes of it on YouTube, and it's unremittingly grim and scary even 30 years later.
garrick92 - 01:50pm Sep 21, 2005 BST ( #47 of 52)
The really amusing thing about it is the number of pre-recorded obits for TV news that various talking heads have done over the years, referring directly to Savile's behaviour and expressing their revulsion and disbelief (over him never getting nabbed for it). I saw Auberon Waugh's a few years back and it is well worth the wait (assuming it is ever broadcast).
Oh God this isn't going to end up with the discussion about Jimmy on "Have I Got News For You", which is like the Atlantis of the comedy world.
“goes beyond anybody’s comprehension” of what Savile was capable of.
Ha! Not ours!
The HIGNFY thing is a genius bit of writing. I'm surprised I haven't heard of more fake transcripts since as they must be a joy to write.
There is a photo of Savile with a group of kids at a "care" home in Jersey. He absolutely denied he had been there despite the evidence. His name has been mud among poor shafted care kids for decades.
One of the homes was a secure unit.
If this is true it really is disgusting behaviour - similar to Catholic priests in Irish industrial schools. Purposefully choosing the most vulnerable troubled kids - kids who had already been labelled 'bad' and who no-one would believe.
Hence the systematic trawling, by every police force in the country, of adult "care" survivors, following the North Wales care homes abuse scandal. But it was done pretty ham-fistedly, with police offering care survivors financial inducements for revelations of sexual abuse which, damaged as the care survivors were, led to many false allegations and ruined careers of innocent teachers and carers. A nightmare situation, impossible to resolve satisfactorily.
I didn't know the HIGNFY thing was fake.
Disappointed.
At least he was straight.
One of the allegations in this programme (according to the Mail) is that he had sex with a 16 year old.
And Rantzen is getting in on the story as well.
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