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Started by halfnelson on 12-Aug-2017 21:16:14
Country music in the UK

I normally like Laura Barton, but she's way off the mark here in suggesting that the UK has been slow to embrace country music:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/aug/10/afte
r-glen-campbell-here-are-the-rhinestone-cowgirls-and-cowboys-to-listen-to-now


I do wonder if the fact that it's always had something of a working-class fanbase has led a lot of critics to overlook it.

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Shadrack22 - 12 Aug 2017 22:08:16 (#1 of 44)

The strange popularity of John Denver in England in the 1970s.

halfnelson - 12 Aug 2017 22:09:32 (#2 of 44)

He had a great voice, though (and his newest best of is currently at Number 6 in the album charts)

carterbrandon - 12 Aug 2017 22:23:11 (#3 of 44)

They like it in the fens. Possibly all those wartime airstrips.

Snarlygog - 13 Aug 2017 03:20:29 (#4 of 44)

Johnny Cash had a great reception at Glastonbury.

toffle - 13 Aug 2017 04:11:24 (#5 of 44)

a working-class fanbase

A rural fanbase (where it is terrifyingly popular).

TinyMcOtter - 13 Aug 2017 04:17:01 (#6 of 44)

How are we classifying country?

Are we including the alt country stuff and its hipster variations?

Ebadlun - 13 Aug 2017 04:21:25 (#7 of 44)

Country music is from the UK. Anglo-celtic folk music taken up the Appalachians and down the Delta.

TinyMcOtter - 13 Aug 2017 04:22:53 (#8 of 44)

So, folk music?

Ebadlun - 13 Aug 2017 04:26:10 (#9 of 44)

As Louis Armstrong said, there's only two types of music - good music, and jazz fusion.

TinyMcOtter - 13 Aug 2017 04:29:41 (#10 of 44)

Heh. I loathe jazz fusion.

TinyMcOtter - 13 Aug 2017 04:30:37 (#11 of 44)

And jazz in general, other than some of trad stuff.

Ebadlun - 13 Aug 2017 04:40:23 (#12 of 44)

Once it all became about endless soloing, it lost it.

Ebadlun - 13 Aug 2017 04:44:38 (#13 of 44)

But back to country - the sheer predictability of most of it turns me off, but there's nothing intrinsic to it that I dislike.

Hank Williams and Johnny Cash found ways of creating beautiful melodies and lyrics from a simple format. It's all in the tension between the melody and the underlying harmony, and that's as true of Max Martin as it is of Schubert.

HouseOfLammo - 13 Aug 2017 08:15:27 (#14 of 44)

So. She's got a point. As long as you ignore Hank Williams, Jim Reeves, Charlie Pride, Kenny Rogers, Don Williams, Tammy Wynette, Johnny Cash, Elvis, The Eagles, and Dolly Parton. And the Alt.Country thing that the graun has been on about for 20 years. You know, with Calexico, Neko Case, The Broken Family Band and so on.

Apart from that. And all the country that was peddled by the crooners of the sixties and seventies, like Val Doonican, and Roger Whitaker, or Tony Christie or Dean Martin or Ray Charles. Or that time The Beatles did a country record.

Yes. An excellent point.

HouseOfLammo - 13 Aug 2017 08:19:03 (#15 of 44)

Oh, and Roy Orbison.

HouseOfLammo - 13 Aug 2017 08:19:16 (#16 of 44)

and The Everlys.

HouseOfLammo - 13 Aug 2017 08:29:43 (#17 of 44)

Neil Diamond.

Glen Campbell.

You get the idea.

Shadrack22 - 13 Aug 2017 08:59:55 (#18 of 44)

George Hamilton IV.

TRaney - 13 Aug 2017 09:12:40 (#19 of 44)

Boxcar Willie

TRaney - 13 Aug 2017 09:13:12 (#20 of 44)

Slim Whitman

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