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Started by GreenFuture on Sep 11, 2021 1:39:27 AM
One Hour To Showcase 20th/21st Century Music To Ye Greats Of Yore

Think we did this long ago. Time for another bash.

Johann, Wolfie, Ludwig and the gang have been magicked into our presence for 60 minutes, and our task is to impress and inform them with what recent generations have been up to musically

Doesn't have to be whole songs or pieces, but should be a couple of minutes from each really. So plenty can be suggested, but really have to be very strongly justified on their own merits and within broader curation.

We are presumably going for breadth of genre, culture and tech as well as compositional quality.

Advocate well, lest your suggestions end up on the cutting room floor.

Thanks.

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Arjuna - 11 Sep 2021 08:54:52 (#1 of 21)

Roll Over Beethoven

Rock Me Amadeus (Special Salieri Club Mix)

GreenFuture - 11 Sep 2021 10:19:38 (#2 of 21)

I’ll look that mix up tx Arj.

Bach’s Prelude 1 is an understandable standard for doing EDM arrangements. I couldn’t say which is the best, they vary widely.

toffle - 11 Sep 2021 10:44:02 (#3 of 21)

EDM = Extreme Death Metal?

toffle - 11 Sep 2021 10:49:19 (#4 of 21)

The most important post-classical development in music is not stylistic but technological: Recording.

Which makes performances that would be otherwise very hard to organise/be present for, available to anyone who wants to hear them.

And via convenient replays, allows the dissemination of less immediately-accessible compositions.

Tinymcsmithy - 11 Sep 2021 11:50:11 (#5 of 21)

Throbbing Gristle

The Anti Nowhere League

Laibach

Sore Throat

Sonia

tasselhoff - 11 Sep 2021 11:53:17 (#6 of 21)

That sounds like episodes of Lucifer.

Tinymcsmithy - 11 Sep 2021 12:03:20 (#7 of 21)

Heh.

moto748 - 12 Sep 2021 21:00:44 (#8 of 21)

Sketches of Spain

Let It Bleed

The Firebird Suite

TommyDGNR8 - 12 Sep 2021 22:10:51 (#9 of 21)

I'd love to hear Tchaikovsky's appraisal of Rush's 2112 since it and the 1812 are two of my favourite pieces of music.

AlanII - 12 Sep 2021 21:14:04 (#10 of 21)

Prelude to a Kiss - Duke Ellington. All three would nod approvingly.

col2001 - 12 Sep 2021 21:19:34 (#11 of 21)

toffle's point on tech is important.

I'd add synths and amplification.

Synths is obvious. But amplification...

I remember reading that orchestras got big to create volume and dynamic range.

I'd like to see Beethoven's response to a drop in a nightclub.

GreenFuture - 13 Sep 2021 01:53:29 (#12 of 21)

Moto - why would you put Firebird Suite above Rite Of Spring?

I think Sketches Of Spain is a good call.

Col2001 - of course you're right on synths and amplification, as toffles point is vital. Got examples?

col2001 - 13 Sep 2021 08:29:14 (#13 of 21)

Nah, Greene - not my thing. O just think that the greats would be shocked by the whole physical experience.

Snarlygog - 13 Sep 2021 10:33:28 (#14 of 21)

UltraVox's Vienna Album - synth's sounds married to classical strings.Would be interesting for them to see the marrying of the Familiar with the unusual.

carterbrandon - 13 Sep 2021 10:42:43 (#15 of 21)

A lot of the tech would be baffling machinery (some of which would have familiar interfaces like a keyboard), but I suspect the one they would get immediately, and be fascinated by, would be the Theremin.

AlanII - 13 Sep 2021 10:50:58 (#16 of 21)

I'm not sure it would baffle them for very long at all. The great Church organs are pretty sophisticated machines.

col2001 - 13 Sep 2021 11:53:08 (#17 of 21)

More thoughts:

1. They all wrote in relatively-refined forms. The sheer range of styles now would surely wow them.

2. Emotional expression. Sure, of course there's emotional expression in their music. But I wonder how they would have reacted to the expression of overt strong emotion in music now? Hate, alienation, sexual climax...

Specifically, I'd like to play them I Feel Love, Fuck Da Police...

I hope they'd engage with all this. I like to think they would - and wouldn't stick to Miles Davis and Philip Glass.

carterbrandon - 13 Sep 2021 12:55:00 (#18 of 21)

#16: Not electrical, though.

Snarlygog - 18 Sep 2021 00:42:11 (#19 of 21)

I wonder how they would react to instruments outside of Western Europe? The Digerdoo, Mbira(thumb piano) Kora, Koto etc.

Shadrack22 - 18 Sep 2021 09:09:40 (#20 of 21)

Stravinsky - The Rite of Spring and Agon

Bartok - Bluebeard’s Castle and Concerto for Orchestra

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows

Kraftwerk - Autobahn

Donna Summer - I Feel Love

Max Richter - Sleep

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