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Started by mingmong on Jun 29, 2020 7:50:14 PM
Apocalypse Then

The doom-mongering of yesteryear: nuclear war, the return of the ice age, overpopulation, invasion by Russians, the rise of post-war Japan etc.

Where are they now, and should we still be worried?

mingmong - 29 Jun 2020 19:53:45 (#1 of 29)

Eurarabia - the idea that we would all somehow end up converting to Islam. The French novelist Houllebecq made quite a convincing case for this in his novel Submission

No-one seems to worry about this anymore, though. Other stuff - Brexit, Trump, Coronvirus now seems to hog the limelight.

mingmong - 29 Jun 2020 19:58:39 (#2 of 29)

The death of the Euro - confidently predicted by the likes of that excitable young JTT poster (10ffMentalman or thereabouts) who then latterly became a massive Brexit doom-monger

Brexit - looking like its going to be beaten into second place by Covid, but argueably well-placed for a return at the end of the year.

AdonisBlue - 29 Jun 2020 20:47:53 (#3 of 29)

You forgot when your beloved childhood presenters turned out to be nonces... Apocalypse Now Then.

mingmong - 29 Jun 2020 20:56:58 (#4 of 29)


moto748 - 29 Jun 2020 20:59:01 (#5 of 29)

*everyone* seemed to think the death of the euro was imminent.

Especially, clever people.

Winner - 29 Jun 2020 21:00:20 (#6 of 29)

At school in the nineties it was all about the rainforest being cut down, acid rain and the hole in the ozone.

The rainforest is still a problem, not sure about the other two.

Winner - 29 Jun 2020 21:01:50 (#7 of 29)

I had a friend who was convinced the world would end in 2000 because nostradamus predicted it, then when that didn't happen he was convinced it would end in 2012.

moto748 - 29 Jun 2020 21:03:55 (#8 of 29)

Clever people alert!

AdonisBlue - 29 Jun 2020 21:05:39 (#9 of 29)

Overpopulation underlies most of the biggest issues on the planet, especially climate change and habitat loss oh and probably covid too. But for some reason when ever it's brought up people point at the graph they were shown fifty years ago in geography and say wisely...'Ah but population growth will slow as everyone becomes more developed'. They've been doing that for fifty years, during which time the population of the planet has doubled and we've taken more land, made more species extinct than ever and probably set off irreversible climate change.

But yeah what overpopulation, thats sooo yesterday.

Rendered - 29 Jun 2020 21:05:58 (#10 of 29)

As Bobby B tells Tony Soprano when they're contemplating the 9/11 attacks; "Quasimodo predicted all this."

thePiMan - 29 Jun 2020 21:06:12 (#11 of 29)

If Trump loses the election I would be worried about a nuclear launch for sure.

moto748 - 29 Jun 2020 21:07:58 (#12 of 29)

Bloody hell! How will you feel if he wins?

thePiMan - 29 Jun 2020 21:08:34 (#13 of 29)

He may not launch a nuclear weapon for four years

AdonisBlue - 29 Jun 2020 21:08:55 (#14 of 29)

He will win.

mingmong - 29 Jun 2020 21:11:16 (#15 of 29)

George Orwell's worries: 1984 and all that. "A boot stamping on the human face forever."

I'm not sure he got that one quite right, except perhaps in China

Rendered - 29 Jun 2020 21:20:04 (#16 of 29)

And all the clubs where you could indulge that fetish have all closed down.

mingmong - 29 Jun 2020 21:48:47 (#17 of 29)

I blame Aldous Huxley. All about the vanilla, that boy.

virgil5 - 30 Jun 2020 03:35:24 (#18 of 29)

Covid-19: there's hope for 1984 after all

ReverendBlueJeans - 30 Jun 2020 09:23:28 (#19 of 29)

Talking of Huxley, there's something a bit Dom the Dome about the slogan COMMUNITY, IDENTITY, STABILITY.

mingmong - 30 Jun 2020 09:38:49 (#20 of 29)

The 15 year old me couldn't help thinking that Huxley's Brave New World sounded like quite a nice place to be - sex and drugs on tap, effortless learning piped into your mind while you sleep. I thought the Savage was a bit of bellend for rejecting it all.

Unfortunately Scummings is far too inept and disorganised to deliver anything close to that Utopia. If he was more effective, it would probably end up more like 1984, given the blokes fundamentally misanthropic Stalinist personality

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